Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
I am glad to hear you've decided to work on the Atlantis. My Atlantis is a recent acquisition, so perhaps I'm still in new-bike love, but I am so impressed with the handling and the quality. Like everyone here, I read Jan Heine's blog and wonder about low trail and frame compliance. And so... I worried the Atlantis would feel truck-like and stiff. Well... it doesn't. The bike is awesome. On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 12:36:12 AM UTC-5, René wrote: The plot thickens. All the feedback given got me thinking again, not sure if that's good or bad... I was pretty much set on selling the Atlantis, but... the question of keeping only the Atlantis if I went to just one bike kept swirling in my mind. I had definitely confirmed that between the Hunqapillar with its Bosco Bullmoose bars and now a C17 Carved saddle which feels very nice and the Atlantis with randonneur drop bars and Berthoud saddle, the Hunqa was definitely much more comfortable for me. Even the comparison between the Atlantis and the Homer, both of which have Berthoud saddles and randonneur drop bars (although not identical) has me feeling more comfortable on the Homer. But, the one thing I never did was try upright bars on the Atlantis. I have several Bosco (non Bullmoose) and other similar Nitto variants that I had used on the Betty, although I finally settled on the narrower regular Bosco bars there, so I decided to test all those bars and see if the nature of the Atlantis changed. The Bosco bars were quickly ruled out; even with an 11cm stem, the top tube isn't long enough, the ends of the bars got in the way, especially if I had to turn the handlebar while off the saddle. The shorter narrower variants from Nitto were better, with the Nitto Grand Bois Promenade that looks like a mini Bosco feeling promising, but when I tried the Nitto Jitensha B2522 Touring bar and following that, tried the Nitto Grand Bois Elysées, things really changed. Right now, after just some riding outside sans-brakes to get the feel for the different bars, the Nitto Grand Bois Elysées feel like they will be the key to the bike having the totally different feel I was missing that the Bosco bars gave me on the Hunqa. Upright for comfort yet allowing me to grab the bends when I'm riding a bit faster. I used the 11cm stem I had and the reach seems perfect. Feeling pretty excited, I decided to also install the Pass Stow rack I had removed long ago from the Hunqapillar to try it on the Atlantis with a Freight Baggage Porteur Rack Bag I had gotten and never used. The Pass Stow rack has an Edelux light I painstakingly routed through the tubing of the rack, but since I hadn't used it on the Hunqapillar for so long, I was also thinking of putting it up for sale. Later this week I'll connect the brakes (with Paul reverse levers) and try a C17 carved saddle to see how it compares to the Hunqapillar in handling and comfort. I never put the steel fenders back on the bike, but if I like how it rides, I'll probably do that and then ride both for a bit to see which one I'd rather keep, and if so, would I dare consider coming down to 1 Riv bike only, or would it be back to keeping 2 or more. Or completely renouncing the idea of downsizing the Riv bikes at all, and rather getting rid of the Tallboys, which would mean that my son decides he won't mountain bike at all, and in which case I'd let him borrow one of the Rivs whenever he agreed to come on a milder trail/road ride with me. A, the things that happen when you consider getting rid of some of your bikes... at least the whole exercise has me riding again, or so it seems. René On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:06 PM, GeorgeS chob...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I have a lot of bikes including a custom randonneur and some beautiful vintage bikes (Hetchins, Masi, etc.). If I had to go down to one bike it would be my Atlantis. George in New Orleans On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his,
Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
It is, indeed. I swapped the Berthoud saddle (saddle sale coming up) with a Cambium C17 Carved natural, as the experience of riding it on the Hunqapillar proved (to me) it was much more comfortable initially that either the B17 or Berthoud saddles I had previously. We'll see long term, but it was becoming an issue for me. The added advantage of the Cambium saddles over the B17/Berthoud is that the rails allow the saddle to be pushed back about an inch further backwards (measuring from the posterior edge of the saddle to the posterior edge of the stem, which for me provides an instant weight balance improvement by allowing me to sit a bit further back and reducing the pressure on my hands. It was a revelation when I tested it on the Hunqapillar and perhaps it has an even bigger impact on my fit on the Atlantis, where I somehow always felt more forward compared to the Hunqapillar. Street test rides before and after saddle swaps showed a huge improvement. Tomorrow I'm taping the handlebars and will do a bit of riding on Friday and during the weekend. So for those who are wishing they could push their Brooks saddles more rearwards, I definitely recommend giving the Cambium C17 a try. The quest for which bike(s) to keep continues. Some initial good I'm deriving from tackling the issue is that it's gotten me riding again. That is always good. René On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad to hear you've decided to work on the Atlantis. My Atlantis is a recent acquisition, so perhaps I'm still in new-bike love, but I am so impressed with the handling and the quality. Like everyone here, I read Jan Heine's blog and wonder about low trail and frame compliance. And so... I worried the Atlantis would feel truck-like and stiff. Well... it doesn't. The bike is awesome. On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 12:36:12 AM UTC-5, René wrote: The plot thickens. All the feedback given got me thinking again, not sure if that's good or bad... I was pretty much set on selling the Atlantis, but... the question of keeping only the Atlantis if I went to just one bike kept swirling in my mind. I had definitely confirmed that between the Hunqapillar with its Bosco Bullmoose bars and now a C17 Carved saddle which feels very nice and the Atlantis with randonneur drop bars and Berthoud saddle, the Hunqa was definitely much more comfortable for me. Even the comparison between the Atlantis and the Homer, both of which have Berthoud saddles and randonneur drop bars (although not identical) has me feeling more comfortable on the Homer. But, the one thing I never did was try upright bars on the Atlantis. I have several Bosco (non Bullmoose) and other similar Nitto variants that I had used on the Betty, although I finally settled on the narrower regular Bosco bars there, so I decided to test all those bars and see if the nature of the Atlantis changed. The Bosco bars were quickly ruled out; even with an 11cm stem, the top tube isn't long enough, the ends of the bars got in the way, especially if I had to turn the handlebar while off the saddle. The shorter narrower variants from Nitto were better, with the Nitto Grand Bois Promenade that looks like a mini Bosco feeling promising, but when I tried the Nitto Jitensha B2522 Touring bar and following that, tried the Nitto Grand Bois Elysées, things really changed. Right now, after just some riding outside sans-brakes to get the feel for the different bars, the Nitto Grand Bois Elysées feel like they will be the key to the bike having the totally different feel I was missing that the Bosco bars gave me on the Hunqa. Upright for comfort yet allowing me to grab the bends when I'm riding a bit faster. I used the 11cm stem I had and the reach seems perfect. Feeling pretty excited, I decided to also install the Pass Stow rack I had removed long ago from the Hunqapillar to try it on the Atlantis with a Freight Baggage Porteur Rack Bag I had gotten and never used. The Pass Stow rack has an Edelux light I painstakingly routed through the tubing of the rack, but since I hadn't used it on the Hunqapillar for so long, I was also thinking of putting it up for sale. Later this week I'll connect the brakes (with Paul reverse levers) and try a C17 carved saddle to see how it compares to the Hunqapillar in handling and comfort. I never put the steel fenders back on the bike, but if I like how it rides, I'll probably do that and then ride both for a bit to see which one I'd rather keep, and if so, would I dare consider coming down to 1 Riv bike only, or would it be back to keeping 2 or more. Or completely renouncing the idea of downsizing the Riv bikes at all, and rather getting rid of the Tallboys, which would mean that my son decides he won't mountain bike at all, and in which case I'd let him borrow one of the Rivs whenever he agreed to come on a milder trail/road ride with me. A, the things that happen when you
[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
I don't want to take this chain off topic, but I'm interested in the fact that you traded the mid-trail forks that were designed for your Hunq and Atlantis with low-trail forks. I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind talking about how the change in forks changed the handling of the two bikes. The debate about which handles better seems never ending. I also wonder whether the affect on handling of the low trail forks is in anyway limited by the frame design, which of course was intended for mid-trail forks. As for which bikes you should keep, only from reading your post, you seem emotionally attached to the Betty and your description of the Atlantis suggests these are the two you'll keep. Steve Thanks On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 12:34:43 AM UTC-5, dougP wrote: Since versatility is a key feature of any Rivendell, I'd keep the extremes, i.e., the Hunq Betty. While I love my Atlantis, I can see overlap between it the Hunq on one side Homer on the other. Tough call but those are nice problems to have. dougP On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 6:16:10 PM UTC-8, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I have a lot of bikes including a custom randonneur and some beautiful vintage bikes (Hetchins, Masi, etc.). If I had to go down to one bike it would be my Atlantis. George in New Orleans On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I'm biased. I have a Betty and love it. I only have one bike and I can do everything on this bike. Keep what you ride the most and love the most. All are great but all need to be ridden to be enjoyed. Maybe offer a couple for sell and see which one sells. Keep the Betty for sure. You'll ride it forever. On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:16:10 PM UTC-5, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
The plot thickens. All the feedback given got me thinking again, not sure if that's good or bad... I was pretty much set on selling the Atlantis, but... the question of keeping only the Atlantis if I went to just one bike kept swirling in my mind. I had definitely confirmed that between the Hunqapillar with its Bosco Bullmoose bars and now a C17 Carved saddle which feels very nice and the Atlantis with randonneur drop bars and Berthoud saddle, the Hunqa was definitely much more comfortable for me. Even the comparison between the Atlantis and the Homer, both of which have Berthoud saddles and randonneur drop bars (although not identical) has me feeling more comfortable on the Homer. But, the one thing I never did was try upright bars on the Atlantis. I have several Bosco (non Bullmoose) and other similar Nitto variants that I had used on the Betty, although I finally settled on the narrower regular Bosco bars there, so I decided to test all those bars and see if the nature of the Atlantis changed. The Bosco bars were quickly ruled out; even with an 11cm stem, the top tube isn't long enough, the ends of the bars got in the way, especially if I had to turn the handlebar while off the saddle. The shorter narrower variants from Nitto were better, with the Nitto Grand Bois Promenade that looks like a mini Bosco feeling promising, but when I tried the Nitto Jitensha B2522 Touring bar and following that, tried the Nitto Grand Bois Elysées, things really changed. Right now, after just some riding outside sans-brakes to get the feel for the different bars, the Nitto Grand Bois Elysées feel like they will be the key to the bike having the totally different feel I was missing that the Bosco bars gave me on the Hunqa. Upright for comfort yet allowing me to grab the bends when I'm riding a bit faster. I used the 11cm stem I had and the reach seems perfect. Feeling pretty excited, I decided to also install the Pass Stow rack I had removed long ago from the Hunqapillar to try it on the Atlantis with a Freight Baggage Porteur Rack Bag I had gotten and never used. The Pass Stow rack has an Edelux light I painstakingly routed through the tubing of the rack, but since I hadn't used it on the Hunqapillar for so long, I was also thinking of putting it up for sale. Later this week I'll connect the brakes (with Paul reverse levers) and try a C17 carved saddle to see how it compares to the Hunqapillar in handling and comfort. I never put the steel fenders back on the bike, but if I like how it rides, I'll probably do that and then ride both for a bit to see which one I'd rather keep, and if so, would I dare consider coming down to 1 Riv bike only, or would it be back to keeping 2 or more. Or completely renouncing the idea of downsizing the Riv bikes at all, and rather getting rid of the Tallboys, which would mean that my son decides he won't mountain bike at all, and in which case I'd let him borrow one of the Rivs whenever he agreed to come on a milder trail/road ride with me. A, the things that happen when you consider getting rid of some of your bikes... at least the whole exercise has me riding again, or so it seems. René On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:06 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I have a lot of bikes including a custom randonneur and some beautiful vintage bikes (Hetchins, Masi, etc.). If I had to go down to one bike it would be my Atlantis. George in New Orleans On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/ photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low
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On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 1:54:12 AM UTC-4, Esteban wrote: Keep them all problem solved. Bikes are fun. This. Sounds like you're going to regret whichever one you let go. It isn't really that many bikes, honestly.Do you have a car? because, sell *that*. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Ok. Thanks for all the help. First decision is to sell the Atlantis and keep the Hunqapillar. I'm definitely much more comfortable on the Hunqapillar. Later on I'll decide on the Betty vs Homer. When I ride the Homer today, things clicked. Now to confirm the parts to be included or offered and come up with an asking price. René On Saturday, March 7, 2015, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Ha ha ha ha!!! Just when I thought I had settled on selling the Atlantis first... and keeping the Hunqapillar. I would agree that if going down to one bike that could do it all, the Atlantis would probably be it. So far, I think that the options that make the most sense are: - If keeping two, then Hunqapillar + Homer or Betty - If keeping one, then the Atlantis makes sense. I will still keep my Bike Friday Pocket Lama, steel (not lugged) and a lot of fun to ride. It could easily replace the Betty, I think, which would leave me with Hunqa + Homer + BF if I decide to go that route. Obviously, Atlantis + BF would also work very well. More thinking to do... and thanks for all your feedback and suggestions. They have helped me put things in perspective. I guess I will have to try riding the Atlantis with the Bosco bars before I make that final call... Have ridden it with all other bars except for those. René On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','justin.aug...@icloud.com'); wrote: I have to say - the Atlantis is like the Quickbeam. No one has ever said I'm so glad I sold either of them. You only hear of regret. Just my two cents. I say Atlantis + Foy -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Keep them all problem solved. Bikes are fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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1. Ride quality: Keep the exhilirating, fast ride that flys down the road and pedals with ease. Jettison the bikes that feel slow and draggy and are hard to push down the road. Or: 2. Function: Is one of the bikes best suited for the type of riding you do? Do you mostly ride off road? Mostly Tour? Want an all-rounder? Fast road bike? Upright city bike? Step through?, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Definitely tough choices... it looks like each either had or still has special meaning that led you to have them in the first place but I get wanting to keep it at 2. Seems like you've already gotten to the conclusion that the Atlantis is the #1 keeper, and Will's point about the two forks is a great one. I still pine a bit for the 64cm Atlantis that was way to big for me... they do have some 'magic'. If it were me, and I was making the decision right now... I'd probably put all three others up for sale and see what the response is with a slight preference towards keeping the Foy as it is a clearly different bike and could be a longterm keeper (and isn't available anymore). The Hilsen should fetch a good price and the Hunq w/ a low trail fork would intrigue alot of people. Your can then cherry pick the best racks and accesories from the two that sell to make sure your Atlantis can be converted into any of its infinite incarnations. On an unrelated note I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Pocket Lama in comparison to your full size bikes. I travel a bit for work and have been back and forth on whether a BF is a worthy investment. Feel free to hit me up off list if you want to keep this discussion on track. Good luck! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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#4 a keeper for sure Rene. The heart loves what the heart loves , and thankfully there is no existence of logic' in love ;-) Is there anything greater than being footloose and fancy free ? On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:16:10 PM UTC-5, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
René, I'm sorry to hear of your situation. Unfortunately, I don't ride your size so I can't make a sincere offer (both bummed and relieved about that). I have to agree with the group, your Atlantis, although well-loved, is the one in the middle. The Hunq could fill in for your Santa Cruz if you set it up for trails. Seems like you have enough standover for that. It would also provide study tour and s240 ability when you wanted it. Besides, that custom silver/gray paint job is unique and stunning! As for the Homer or the Betty, that would be a dilemma. I've always loved the Hilson and would set one up for go fast-ish road riding. But, if fast-ish road riding is of no interest, then hang on to the Betty. It is unique and irreplaceable. Best of luck with such a tough decision. I hope you do well with the ones you decide to sell and continue to love and enjoy the ones you decide to keep. John (For reference, I get my cycling range from a Soma MTB and a Hillborne with two sets of wheels. One to cover tour/trail/country and the other for road riding) On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 6:16:10 PM UTC-8, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
I say keep the Atlantis and the Hilsen. The Atlantis has two forks, so you've already created extra versitility. Plus there's Atlantis magic which is special. The Hilsen is so nicely set up I can't believe you'd let that go. Yes, I like the Foy, but the Hilsen is a true classic, a real heirloom bike. Between the Foy and the Hilsen, I'd be inclined to put upright bars on the Hilsen and give it a couple of months before choosing between the two. Will On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
Thanks John, that's a very logical summary. And indeed, the Hunqapillar can be turned into a trail bike. I guess one way to get started would be to downsize to Hunqapillar, Homer Betty and then continue from there. Although when I look at what I'm likely to do in the next 5 years with myself, keeping the Atlantis and the Betty (or the Hunqapillar and the Betty) also looks quite sensible. René On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com wrote: René, I'm sorry to hear of your situation. Unfortunately, I don't ride your size so I can't make a sincere offer (both bummed and relieved about that). I have to agree with the group, your Atlantis, although well-loved, is the one in the middle. The Hunq could fill in for your Santa Cruz if you set it up for trails. Seems like you have enough standover for that. It would also provide study tour and s240 ability when you wanted it. Besides, that custom silver/gray paint job is unique and stunning! As for the Homer or the Betty, that would be a dilemma. I've always loved the Hilson and would set one up for go fast-ish road riding. But, if fast-ish road riding is of no interest, then hang on to the Betty. It is unique and irreplaceable. Best of luck with such a tough decision. I hope you do well with the ones you decide to sell and continue to love and enjoy the ones you decide to keep. John (For reference, I get my cycling range from a Soma MTB and a Hillborne with two sets of wheels. One to cover tour/trail/country and the other for road riding) On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 6:16:10 PM UTC-8, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/ photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this
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Nicely worded. On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: #4 a keeper for sure Rene. The heart loves what the heart loves , and thankfully there is no existence of logic' in love ;-) Is there anything greater than being footloose and fancy free ? On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:16:10 PM UTC-5, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/ photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
Hi René, How about Homer and Betty, then? Evan E. SF, CA On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 1:06:28 PM UTC-8, René wrote: When I ride the Hilsen, I feel like it should be my only bike. I can't quite see myself with only the Betty, but as long as I don't do any overnights, can see myself without the Atlantis or the Hunqapillar. But not without both of them. OTOH, as someone else put it, the Atlantis and Homer are very close to each other... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
When I ride the Hilsen, I feel like it should be my only bike. I can't quite see myself with only the Betty, but as long as I don't do any overnights, can see myself without the Atlantis or the Hunqapillar. But not without both of them. OTOH, as someone else put it, the Atlantis and Homer are very close to each other... On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote: I say keep the Atlantis and the Hilsen. The Atlantis has two forks, so you've already created extra versitility. Plus there's Atlantis magic which is special. The Hilsen is so nicely set up I can't believe you'd let that go. Yes, I like the Foy, but the Hilsen is a true classic, a real heirloom bike. Between the Foy and the Hilsen, I'd be inclined to put upright bars on the Hilsen and give it a couple of months before choosing between the two. Will On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/ photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
If you go down to 2, Hunq and AHH. If you go down to 3, Hunq and AHH and Betty. The Atlantis is the perfect bike to have if you to settle on just one to do everything. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:06 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: When I ride the Hilsen, I feel like it should be my only bike. I can't quite see myself with only the Betty, but as long as I don't do any overnights, can see myself without the Atlantis or the Hunqapillar. But not without both of them. OTOH, as someone else put it, the Atlantis and Homer are very close to each other... On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote: I say keep the Atlantis and the Hilsen. The Atlantis has two forks, so you've already created extra versitility. Plus there's Atlantis magic which is special. The Hilsen is so nicely set up I can't believe you'd let that go. Yes, I like the Foy, but the Hilsen is a true classic, a real heirloom bike. Between the Foy and the Hilsen, I'd be inclined to put upright bars on the Hilsen and give it a couple of months before choosing between the two. Will On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To
Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
What he said. Atlantis whittled down to one, Hilsen and Hunq to split the difference, and dark horse Betty as the only bike you can't replace tomorrow with a phone call and a credit card. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:13:46 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote: If you go down to 2, Hunq and AHH. If you go down to 3, Hunq and AHH and Betty. The Atlantis is the perfect bike to have if you to settle on just one to do everything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
Since versatility is a key feature of any Rivendell, I'd keep the extremes, i.e., the Hunq Betty. While I love my Atlantis, I can see overlap between it the Hunq on one side Homer on the other. Tough call but those are nice problems to have. dougP On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 6:16:10 PM UTC-8, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
