[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

Beautifully written and photographed. "Poetic," comes to mind. Thanks for taking me there with you. I appreciate this especially as for the last six months I'm dealing with some chronic pain issues, so longish rides (thought not all rides!) are out for me. I miss being out in nature and your

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

The available Jumbo Mountain Mixte is gone already checked Thursday. Ryan Hankinson West Michigan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Patrick, the mountain mixte is the obvious answer! I'm new to this mountain mixte thing, but I've found it to be much preferable to the other option. With a step through you can really dance around, allowing for maximum finesse on rocky trails. Being able to catamaran your body so readily and

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Phil, I’m not sure where the links were. I did a lot of searching. Some likely on MTBr.com. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

But be aware that, as with Nitto putting 7 lb max limits on racks, some mfrs may put "cya" restrictions on their products. It may well be that the ENO suffers more from the pull of high torque pedaling than, say, a Phil fixed hub with allen bolts; but I've yet to be convinced mfr's disclaimers

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I will look into the Philcentric BB, Justin. Thank you. One of the things I’ve learned trying a LOT of different ways of going about “x” is it rarely goes well when the purpose of a thing and it’s use don’t match up. The less alligned purpose and use are the more fiddly and frustrating it will

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

Did you already explore this Phil bottom bracket? http://www.philwood.com/products/bbpages/philcentric.php On Dec 9, 2017, 7:41 PM -0800, Deacon Patrick , wrote: > True, Doug. Requires a larger bottom bracket shell, though. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > -- > You received

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

The torque on the ENO won't come from the high gears, but from the low, where you're putting more mechanical advantage through the gears. Has White industries actually said it's a no go for the gear you want to use? I'm guessing it would be fine. Eric On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Patrick

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Can you share links to forum posts recounting loss of tension with the ENO hub in low gears? Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

Ah yes, that makes sense. Your Hunq is definitely subject to significant torque and having the chain tension fail under load, up a hill with a week's worth of groceries could be an unfortunate event. I see a third bike in the offing :) IanA -- You received this message because you are

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I'd leave the Hunq alone and just buy another single speed if poss. Remember: 'Once you haq you can't go baq!". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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True, Doug. Requires a larger bottom bracket shell, though. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Tandems use an eccentric BB to allow tensioning the front chain. Would that work? dougP On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 6:17:30 PM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > If the ENO is a no go then it seems like you have 3 options: > 1) “Magic” gear marching front and rear that gives you perfect

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You got it, Justin. New dropouts is the option being explored. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Has anyone else heard of the ENO eccentric shifting under load? I read a great deal about it some years ago when I was using them and heard nothing about this. A quick Google (vt) only turned up reports of the axle shifting in the dropouts. On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Justin, Oakland

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If the ENO is a no go then it seems like you have 3 options: 1) “Magic” gear marching front and rear that gives you perfect chain length 2) Cut out dropouts and get something brazed in that will allow chain tenisioning. 3) cut out Bottom Bracket shell and get something brazed in that allows

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I’m going to trust White Industries knows thier products better than I. Grin. No more research needed for me. Loosing chain tension is apparently fairly common for high-torque riders on the forums I researched, which is why I asked the question. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this

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Perhaps you put out more torque than I do, but I never had a problem with my 2 ENOs when climbing hills in relatively high gears (again, 70" road, 63" off road). I think more research is in order here. On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Ian, I believe

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

Ian, I believe it is an issue with not holding chain tension under high torque. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > ... > Patrick, I’m all in for fixed. It is another level ahead in terms of brain > feel, and I’ll take all I can get. Definately not a seasonal change. > https://youtu.be/XnqJ41aDFfc?t=52 > I’m puzzling how to best go

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

Now, that is curious. What is it about the high torque that negates the option of the ENO on the Hunq? Is there a fear of snapping the right side drop out? I've never heard of the ENO causing such a problem. Curious in Canada, IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

So in England they would freewheel or fixed for which season and why? I don't understand. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

That's why the Brits had rear wheels that allowed freewheel on one side and fixed on the other. Come winter they'd flip the wheel, remove derailleur, shorten chain and off into a Northwest European winter. Craig in a Southwest American winter in Tucson On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 5:09:09

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

Lum, 65” and 42” (freewheel is a bit higher at 68” and 46”). I have a 44t cog and I may have room for it (technically I do, but that may be only with smaller tires, which I’m not going to do). That would give me a 70” top gear. But I really don’t see the need for it. Patrick, I’m all in for

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

Patric, What inches are you using in your mountainous terrain? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to