Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
How about the Schwalbe Marathon Racer ? ... comes in 26x1.5 and folding/non folding beads. Amazon sells both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/b3DKp0-Uv7QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Big news in the 559 world: Compass Bikes (Bicycle Quarterly) is coming out with a high quality/low rolling resistance tire in 42mm width: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/compass-tires-in-26-x-1-75/ 26 is the new 650B!!! On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Add me to the list of those who like them. Only reason don't have a pair on a bike right now is some mysterious flatting where I can't find what is the cause. Time to get out a cotton ball and see if that works. Personally I don't ride supple tires and or light wheels. So am the wrong person to give opinions about it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 7, 3:42 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 16:37 -0400, Steven Frederick wrote: I've been running non-TG Paselas 26X1.75 tires on my XO this year. They're pretty plush and fast. Maybe not quite Hetres but nearly as big and nearly as nice...cheap, too! It's a funny thing about those Paselas - some love them (and you can include me in that group) but some loathe, hate and despise them with a passion. Performance seems to be highly variable, and I'm not at all sure for what reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
I've been running non-TG Paselas 26X1.75 tires on my XO this year. They're pretty plush and fast. Maybe not quite Hetres but nearly as big and nearly as nice...cheap, too! On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: I think a wide (40mm) plush, low rolling resistance and durable tire is the thing that's hugely missing from the 559 tire size! There should be a 26 Hetre!!! Instead of doing 650B conversions on 700C bikes, getting plush-tire conversion for 26 mountain bikes should be all the rage! I bet more people have a MTB from the 90's hanging in their garage than a skinny-tired 700C bike! Rant for the day. On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 5:57 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Garth; will have to keep those in mind. I don't mind heavy wheels, but I do mind -- greatly -- sluggish tires, and there are definite differences. FWIW, list, I have a pair of almost unused Specialized Hemisphere 38s for sale Cheap! because the puncture resistant belt, well, you know Make offers! On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I have them in the 622 Patrick. I'm with you about the Pasela tires...if you want low rolling resistant tiresthose ain't it! The Metro K's are. They're great at 35mm in that they roll fast AND have some cushion as long as you're at 70-75psi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JMARaPKULLgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 16:37 -0400, Steven Frederick wrote: I've been running non-TG Paselas 26X1.75 tires on my XO this year. They're pretty plush and fast. Maybe not quite Hetres but nearly as big and nearly as nice...cheap, too! It's a funny thing about those Paselas - some love them (and you can include me in that group) but some loathe, hate and despise them with a passion. Performance seems to be highly variable, and I'm not at all sure for what reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Add me to the list of those who like them. Only reason don't have a pair on a bike right now is some mysterious flatting where I can't find what is the cause. Time to get out a cotton ball and see if that works. Personally I don't ride supple tires and or light wheels. So am the wrong person to give opinions about it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 7, 3:42 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 16:37 -0400, Steven Frederick wrote: I've been running non-TG Paselas 26X1.75 tires on my XO this year. They're pretty plush and fast. Maybe not quite Hetres but nearly as big and nearly as nice...cheap, too! It's a funny thing about those Paselas - some love them (and you can include me in that group) but some loathe, hate and despise them with a passion. Performance seems to be highly variable, and I'm not at all sure for what reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
I have them in the 622 Patrick. I'm with you about the Pasela tires...if you want low rolling resistant tiresthose ain't it! The Metro K's are. They're great at 35mm in that they roll fast AND have some cushion as long as you're at 70-75psi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JMARaPKULLgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Thanks, Garth; will have to keep those in mind. I don't mind heavy wheels, but I do mind -- greatly -- sluggish tires, and there are definite differences. FWIW, list, I have a pair of almost unused Specialized Hemisphere 38s for sale Cheap! because the puncture resistant belt, well, you know Make offers! On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I have them in the 622 Patrick. I'm with you about the Pasela tires...if you want low rolling resistant tiresthose ain't it! The Metro K's are. They're great at 35mm in that they roll fast AND have some cushion as long as you're at 70-75psi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JMARaPKULLgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
I think a wide (40mm) plush, low rolling resistance and durable tire is the thing that's hugely missing from the 559 tire size! There should be a 26 Hetre!!! Instead of doing 650B conversions on 700C bikes, getting plush-tire conversion for 26 mountain bikes should be all the rage! I bet more people have a MTB from the 90's hanging in their garage than a skinny-tired 700C bike! Rant for the day. On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 5:57 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Garth; will have to keep those in mind. I don't mind heavy wheels, but I do mind -- greatly -- sluggish tires, and there are definite differences. FWIW, list, I have a pair of almost unused Specialized Hemisphere 38s for sale Cheap! because the puncture resistant belt, well, you know Make offers! On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I have them in the 622 Patrick. I'm with you about the Pasela tires...if you want low rolling resistant tiresthose ain't it! The Metro K's are. They're great at 35mm in that they roll fast AND have some cushion as long as you're at 70-75psi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JMARaPKULLgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
re good 26 tires - Do Schwalbe Kojaks come in 559x50? I have 700x35's (which are actually barely 32's) on my Sam and love them. I think wheel and tire weight makes a big difference in feel, if not actual speed, because they are moving so fast compared to the rest of the bike and rider. Jan Heine did a test of this and found optimal, for him at least, tire weights for various wheel sizes. This had more to do with responsivesness and feel, not speed. The optimal 700c range was down around 320-350g per tire, IIRC. -Spare Tire Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HMfUcVqa1ZsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
How do Shwalbe Supreme 32s compare with the 32 Paselas with tourguard? I have the Pasalas on now and a pair of Shwalbes waiting for them to wear out. On Aug 6, 8:50 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I have them in the 622 Patrick. I'm with you about the Pasela tires...if you want low rolling resistant tiresthose ain't it! The Metro K's are. They're great at 35mm in that they roll fast AND have some cushion as long as you're at 70-75psi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Aaron Schmidt wrote: This might be an unpopular opinion but in my experience wheel weight, and where in the wheel the weight is, can make a difference. Of course the amount of difference it makes is likely to depend on the total payload of the bike and rider. (Clearly I'm verging on religious territory here, but I can perceive a difference when riding my 19ish# go-fast (Salsa Primero) and my 30+# LHT. I did an 18 mile uphill TT on these bikes (using a similar gear ratio) to see if reality matched my perceptions. Indeed I made it up the hill faster on the lighter bike. I would reasonably expect an 11# (or more) weight difference to be noticeable. Imagine riding with a gallon and a half of water added to your bike- you'd notice it. With the OP's question we're talking a change of a few ounces- imagine the difference between riding with a full versus empty water bottle. Few people claim to notice this difference, but it's much greater than the 30 grams of tire weight some claim to be able to feel. Also, the frame geometry differences are going to give the bike a different feel in terms of handling which can make a rider feel faster or slower without actually being faster or slower. My cross bike with 35c Marathons feels pokey on the road compared to when I'm running 28c Gatorskins. On rough gravel roads I feel just the opposite! I probably lose more water weight on a long ride than the Marathons weigh more than the Gatorskins, true. However, they sure feel different when riding. Those are very different tires in construction as well as size, so they are difficult to compare. Only going down to 32s, it doesn't sound like you're going to go weight weenie so who knows if you'll get up the hills faster. But maybe the smaller tire with higher PSI will make you feel faster. Totally counts for something. Can you borrow a wheel set from someone and see what you think? A reasonable idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Huh. I find the standard non-TG Paselas to roll as well as any clincher I've ever used (comparing to Avocet slicks, Ritchey Tom Slicks, Continental Grand Prix and Ultra 2000, Michelin Super Comp HD primarily). On Aug 6, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Garth wrote: I have them in the 622 Patrick. I'm with you about the Pasela tires...if you want low rolling resistant tiresthose ain't it! The Metro K's are. They're great at 35mm in that they roll fast AND have some cushion as long as you're at 70-75psi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
I'm with you again on wheels Patrick, I don't mind heavy wheels my 2 current sets are 36H Phil FW hubs with Mavic T520/A719 rims they're 25mm wide and built superbly by Joe Young. I'll pay top dollar for wheels that never need to be touched after they're built. . . .and that usually means a dedicated professional who only builds wheels. Speaking of sluggish Performance also sells the 700x35mm Gotham tire ... aka a rebranded Panaracer Crosstown. Oh my I never rode such a slug of a tire since my 3 speed days as a teen! Continentals seems to have a rep for sidewalls cracking and from my time with them ... it was true. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GJoXGPEoQfEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
I just recently tried the Hetres 42cm 650b. They are fast but tend to get a little slow when the ground is hot compared to Schwalbe marathons 38cm 650b. I like both and wish the Marathon was a little wider for comfort. The difference in price is big. I think Schwalbe makes the best all around tires and the Marathon w. it's reflective sidewall is a major plus. Still my fav tire. Can't wait to try both in the fall, early winter when the ground hardens and gets faster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sGULbsQMIWQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Some time ago I found an old CyclePro mountain bike, from the early '80s, at GW for a good price and bought it. It was shod with some 45 mm slicks. I rode it through, literally, a garden of goathead thorns and came back with scores, if not hundreds, of goatheads in the tires but, thanks to the belted tires plus thorn proof tubes, not a minim of air lost. But I have never, ever in my life ridden tires at once so wooden and so molasses-like: if those were the only bicycle tires and tubes available, I kid you not, I would give up cycling. Similar experience with Mr Tuffys in 559X32 Paselas. Give me flats any day. OTOH, the 22 mm (actual, on skinny rims) old stock so-called 26X1 Specialized Turbos I just rode 21 miles on are fast and surprisingly cushy over small amplitude, high frequency bumps -- something I noticed years ago comparing them to Fatboys (tho' the latter were always overinflated). And these skinnies flat less than the mentioned Paselas -- beats me why. On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with you again on wheels Patrick, I don't mind heavy wheels my 2 current sets are 36H Phil FW hubs with Mavic T520/A719 rims they're 25mm wide and built superbly by Joe Young. I'll pay top dollar for wheels that never need to be touched after they're built. . . .and that usually means a dedicated professional who only builds wheels. Speaking of sluggish Performance also sells the 700x35mm Gotham tire ... aka a rebranded Panaracer Crosstown. Oh my I never rode such a slug of a tire since my 3 speed days as a teen! Continentals seems to have a rep for sidewalls cracking and from my time with them ... it was true. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GJoXGPEoQfEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
A different tire with a different tread(like a slick or slick-ish tire) with less rolling resistance can make a notable difference, but like Tim said, a narrower version of the same tire is not going to make any difference. I've used Performance Bike's Forte Metro 35mm tires for years and absolutely love the feel and low rolling resistance on my road bike. Don't let the low price fool you. How do I know they have a really low rolling resistance? riding on Kreitler rollers is a great tool to compare tires ... and these fly... and give a good ride :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gTVO_rncijkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
There's a pretty substantial difference in feel from the 35mm Paselas to the 28 Paselas imo. I'd try that first and see how you like it. I float from 28 to 32 to 37's on my Rambouillet and Quickbeam. The 37's feel sluggish on steep hills but the 28's are downright zippy with the 32's trailing close behind. Pretty light also even for the TG version. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NyOw_tg2FNQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Garth: are your metros 559 or 622? Given the dearth of decent rolling 559 tires in anything wider than 23 mm (the Pasela 32s are the best I've seen, but not very good, IMO -- and they flat too easily, to boot) I'd be interested in considering them for my 559/571-wheeled Riv Roads. I'd also be interested in comments comparing the Metros with Paselas. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: A different tire with a different tread(like a slick or slick-ish tire) with less rolling resistance can make a notable difference, but like Tim said, a narrower version of the same tire is not going to make any difference. I've used Performance Bike's Forte Metro 35mm tires for years and absolutely love the feel and low rolling resistance on my road bike. Don't let the low price fool you. How do I know they have a really low rolling resistance? riding on Kreitler rollers is a great tool to compare tires ... and these fly... and give a good ride :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gTVO_rncijkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
I went from 35mm Paselas to GB Cypres on my 36-spoke synergy wheels and noticed a big difference in feel. Felt like I was riding feathers rather than treads. The cush factor is still there as well if you don't overfill, but they are a bit less of the shock absorbers that the 35s were. I'm sticking with them - new favorite 700c tire. One man's opinion... Brian Seattle On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:38 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Garth: are your metros 559 or 622? Given the dearth of decent rolling 559 tires in anything wider than 23 mm (the Pasela 32s are the best I've seen, but not very good, IMO -- and they flat too easily, to boot) I'd be interested in considering them for my 559/571-wheeled Riv Roads. I'd also be interested in comments comparing the Metros with Paselas. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: A different tire with a different tread(like a slick or slick-ish tire) with less rolling resistance can make a notable difference, but like Tim said, a narrower version of the same tire is not going to make any difference. I've used Performance Bike's Forte Metro 35mm tires for years and absolutely love the feel and low rolling resistance on my road bike. Don't let the low price fool you. How do I know they have a really low rolling resistance? riding on Kreitler rollers is a great tool to compare tires ... and these fly... and give a good ride :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gTVO_rncijkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
On Friday, August 5, 2011 5:57:02 PM UTC-4, Solomander wrote: I have an AHH snip I wouldn't mind it if the bike was a bit quicker- especially on hills. snip What do you think? It's all about the engine. Usually, jettisoning some weight from the mid-section of the engine will help the most. Given what your current set up is, tire RR and wheel weight are very minor factors. Best, Larry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nAMjS_kpQ8gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
About a year and a half ago, I decided to try the Grand Bois Cypres tires on my road bike. I had a regular commute that I knew very well and would ride it consistently around the same pace every day. After switching the Grand Bois, there was a noticeable increase in average speed of my commutes. I was consistently 0.25 top 0.5 mph quicker with the Grand Bois tires than I was on the tires they replaced, Specialized Roubaix Pros. This wasn't a big change in weight, but was likely due to a significant decrease in rolling resistance. Tires make a big difference so don't be too quick to judge. YMMV, Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:17:25 -0700 From: fie...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make On Friday, August 5, 2011 5:57:02 PM UTC-4, Solomander wrote:I have an AHH snip I wouldn't mind it if the bike was a bit quicker- especially on hills. snip What do you think? It's all about the engine. Usually, jettisoning some weight from the mid-section of the engine will help the most. Given what your current set up is, tire RR and wheel weight are very minor factors. Best, Larry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nAMjS_kpQ8gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Drop the bars 4 inches Buy aero wheel set 700x23 tires with 120 psi Add close range rear cassette You'll get a couple mph maybe 3. Then you might ad well go carbon cause those wheels and tires will look funny on the ahh. I bought a bombadil loaded it down.. Ride it a lot and now my ahh with jb's feels like a fast bike .. Just more comfy Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qdVxWTQlol4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
I compared different tires back to back over a couple of rides. http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/bike-servations.html Didn't find a whole lot of difference on an admittedly small sample size. Both bikes are very comfortable though! The route has some elevation, but it's by no means a hill climb! On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Drop the bars 4 inches Buy aero wheel set 700x23 tires with 120 psi Add close range rear cassette You'll get a couple mph maybe 3. Then you might ad well go carbon cause those wheels and tires will look funny on the ahh. I bought a bombadil loaded it down.. Ride it a lot and now my ahh with jb's feels like a fast bike .. Just more comfy Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qdVxWTQlol4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
This might be an unpopular opinion but in my experience wheel weight, and where in the wheel the weight is, can make a difference. Of course the amount of difference it makes is likely to depend on the total payload of the bike and rider. (Clearly I'm verging on religious territory here, but I can perceive a difference when riding my 19ish# go-fast (Salsa Primero) and my 30+# LHT. I did an 18 mile uphill TT on these bikes (using a similar gear ratio) to see if reality matched my perceptions. Indeed I made it up the hill faster on the lighter bike.) My cross bike with 35c Marathons feels pokey on the road compared to when I'm running 28c Gatorskins. On rough gravel roads I feel just the opposite! I probably lose more water weight on a long ride than the Marathons weigh more than the Gatorskins, true. However, they sure feel different when riding. Only going down to 32s, it doesn't sound like you're going to go weight weenie so who knows if you'll get up the hills faster. But maybe the smaller tire with higher PSI will make you feel faster. Totally counts for something. Can you borrow a wheel set from someone and see what you think? On Aug 5, 2:57 pm, Solomander soloman...@aol.com wrote: I have an AHH that's running 36 spoked Velocity wheels and 35 mm Panaracer Paselas. My original priorities were bombproof and plush riding. The ride is undeniably cushy, but there are times when I wouldn't mind it if the bike was a bit quicker- especially on hills. I have been contemplating running 32 mm Paselas and/or going to a somewhat lighter wheelset. I still wonder how much real world difference these changes would make. What do you think? Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
