[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-30 Thread masmojo
I am waiting on some Albastaches, but I rode Mustache bsrs for years on my XO-1 
& I agree there's probably no need for extra levers.
The thing with those bars is that aside from having your hand right next to the 
stem (which isn't that comfortable) you typically have a finger or two on the 
brake levers.
When riding with my hands on the rear "flats" my fore finger just curls around 
the lower hook of the lever.
When riding forward with my hands in "drops" obviously i can put as many 
fingers as I like on the lever.
Finally, if I am really stretched out riding on the hoods, I found myself using 
my ring & pinky finger to lightly modulate the brake and that's all you need in 
that position,  because you are only going to be riding it in situations where 
you are cruising & there's no traffic or distractions.

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-27 Thread Surlyprof
I agree with Scott.  Had the Choco been out when I bought my Albastache, I 
would have seriously considered them.  Since I was changing from Albatross 
bars, it would have saved me buying road brake levers.  That said, I 
believe they come back farther than the albastache so that may cause the 
same problems with bar end shifters that I had with the albatross.  They 
occasionally hit my knees when turning.

John

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 8:09:26 AM UTC-7, Scott McLain wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremy,
> I think the reason the Riv came out with the Choco bars is so that they 
> could fill the space of the albastache but be able to use mountain brake 
> levers.  You may want to consider.  
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 8:49:32 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>>
>> I'm putting together a commuter bike for my 18-mile commute because my 
>> fancy bikes are too fancy and my Clem is too long to fit nicely in the bike 
>> racks on the train back home. So I'm going to build up an old English 
>> 3-speed that will hopefully fit the bill. For handlebars, I am thinking 
>> about using the albastache with two sets of brake levers: reverse levers in 
>> the ends for the casual upright stance, and cyclocross-style interrupter 
>> levers on the curves for when I'm riding more aggressively. 
>>
>> Has anyone tried this? If so, how'd it work for you? I wonder if the 
>> interrupter levers will even mount on/near those curves.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-27 Thread Ray Varella
No experience with the albastache but I used the moustache on my commuter for 
many years. 
With bar end shifters and brake levers on the curves, I found it to be the very 
best bar I ever used for riding in heavy traffic. 
The quick transition from shifters to brakes and the semi-upright riding 
position made for one of the safest feeling riding positions. 

I'm seriously considering the albastache for my next bike and will use levers 
at the curves. 

Ray
Vallejo CA

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-27 Thread Scott McLain
Hi Jeremy,
I think the reason the Riv came out with the Choco bars is so that they 
could fill the space of the albastache but be able to use mountain brake 
levers.  You may want to consider.  

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 8:49:32 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> I'm putting together a commuter bike for my 18-mile commute because my 
> fancy bikes are too fancy and my Clem is too long to fit nicely in the bike 
> racks on the train back home. So I'm going to build up an old English 
> 3-speed that will hopefully fit the bill. For handlebars, I am thinking 
> about using the albastache with two sets of brake levers: reverse levers in 
> the ends for the casual upright stance, and cyclocross-style interrupter 
> levers on the curves for when I'm riding more aggressively. 
>
> Has anyone tried this? If so, how'd it work for you? I wonder if the 
> interrupter levers will even mount on/near those curves.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-26 Thread jeffrey kane
Funny -- I've used both the SCR-5 type (which, I believe were Campy Record 
10 clones) and the RRL and have come to wish for the flared out lever of 
the RRL matched with the SCR-5 body (!) ... 

On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 12:21:41 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> on drop bars TRPs are wonderful :)
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 11:15:35 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> I would agree with Ryan in stating that the tiagras are perfectly 
>> adequate which is why I've never replaced them.  I see them as functional 
>> but not wonderful (due to a slight rattle in one of them).  I'm not sure 
>> the trps would fall into the wonderful category but, if I ever replace the 
>> tiagras, the trps, and now Origin8 Classiques, will be on my shortlist.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 6:19:37 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> I've used tiagras on my moustache bars for years and  I find that 
>>> they're perfectly adequate...I do like the looks of the flipped down TRPS , 
>>> Drew,  as well, but I feel that the TRPs really come into their own with 
>>> drop bars
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 7:51:04 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 I bought the straighter tiagras and wished I'd bought the trps and 
 flipped them.  They are much nicer brake levers.

 John

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-26 Thread Ryan Fleming
on drop bars TRPs are wonderful :)

On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 11:15:35 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I would agree with Ryan in stating that the tiagras are perfectly adequate 
> which is why I've never replaced them.  I see them as functional but not 
> wonderful (due to a slight rattle in one of them).  I'm not sure the trps 
> would fall into the wonderful category but, if I ever replace the tiagras, 
> the trps, and now Origin8 Classiques, will be on my shortlist.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 6:19:37 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I've used tiagras on my moustache bars for years and  I find that they're 
>> perfectly adequate...I do like the looks of the flipped down TRPS , Drew, 
>>  as well, but I feel that the TRPs really come into their own with drop bars
>>
>> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 7:51:04 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought the straighter tiagras and wished I'd bought the trps and 
>>> flipped them.  They are much nicer brake levers.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-26 Thread Surlyprof
I would agree with Ryan in stating that the tiagras are perfectly adequate 
which is why I've never replaced them.  I see them as functional but not 
wonderful (due to a slight rattle in one of them).  I'm not sure the trps 
would fall into the wonderful category but, if I ever replace the tiagras, 
the trps, and now Origin8 Classiques, will be on my shortlist.

John

On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 6:19:37 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I've used tiagras on my moustache bars for years and  I find that they're 
> perfectly adequate...I do like the looks of the flipped down TRPS , Drew, 
>  as well, but I feel that the TRPs really come into their own with drop bars
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 7:51:04 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> I bought the straighter tiagras and wished I'd bought the trps and 
>> flipped them.  They are much nicer brake levers.
>>
>> John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-26 Thread drew
im actually going to be setting up another bike with albastache bars this 
week. i have ordered the cane creek scr-5's with the gum hoods to try out. 
ill report back. 
the trp's feel really good, look really good, and work really good. i do 
sort of regret spending the $ to put them on a bar where you lose all the 
ergonomics they built into the hoods and levers though. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-26 Thread Jeremy Tavan
There's also the Origin8 "Classique" levers, which have a somewhat related 
look to the TRPs but without the outwards flare to the levers. Might work 
well on the mustache/albastache? And they're inexpensive to boot. 

On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 6:19:37 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I've used tiagras on my moustache bars for years and  I find that they're 
> perfectly adequate...I do like the looks of the flipped down TRPS , Drew, 
>  as well, but I feel that the TRPs really come into their own with drop bars
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 7:51:04 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> I bought the straighter tiagras and wished I'd bought the trps and 
>> flipped them.  They are much nicer brake levers.
>>
>> John
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-26 Thread Ryan Fleming
I've used tiagras on my moustache bars for years and  I find that they're 
perfectly adequate...I do like the looks of the flipped down TRPS , Drew, 
 as well, but I feel that the TRPs really come into their own with drop bars

On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 7:51:04 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I bought the straighter tiagras and wished I'd bought the trps and flipped 
> them.  They are much nicer brake levers.
>
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-26 Thread Surlyprof
I bought the straighter tiagras and wished I'd bought the trps and flipped 
them.  They are much nicer brake levers.

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-26 Thread drew
I have the trp levers but had to mount them upside down for cable routing and 
not having the lever flare up above the bar. A straighter one would likely be 
better, but these upside down work just fine too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread Jeremy Tavan
I'm actually looking at the albastache because I want the longer reach
option - I have a very long torso, proportionately, and most swept-back
bars end up too close for comfort except with really, really long top tube
bikes and really long stems. I appreciate all the feedback from folks on
this list! I'll give them a shot with regular road bike levers "as
specified" and see how it goes. Is it better to use a straight-bladed brake
lever, or one of the ergo-ish ones like the TRP RRL?

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:31 PM dstein  wrote:

> 3rd that. I have albastaches on my hunqapillar and hear what you're
> saying. I keep going back and forth between having something upright like
> the albatross with brake levers at the ends of the bars vs. albastache with
> breaks in the drops and at the end of the day I prefer the albastache - the
> brakes are pretty accessible and you still get the upright riding when you
> want it. If the bars are high enough and the stem short enough it shouldn't
> be too far of a reach to the drops.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 8:36:58 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. I find the brakes on the hooks to be really easy to get to. I
>> thought about inverse levers when I got mine, because i assumed I'd be
>> riding mostly near the ends, but I'm really glad I went with standard road
>> levers And setup the bars the way riv does. I find I ride between the hooks
>> and the ends most often, so the brakes are only a few inches away. The
>> brake "hoods" are also somewhat useful as a hand location when you want to
>> stretch out more.
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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread dstein
3rd that. I have albastaches on my hunqapillar and hear what you're saying. 
I keep going back and forth between having something upright like the 
albatross with brake levers at the ends of the bars vs. albastache with 
breaks in the drops and at the end of the day I prefer the albastache - the 
brakes are pretty accessible and you still get the upright riding when you 
want it. If the bars are high enough and the stem short enough it shouldn't 
be too far of a reach to the drops.

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 8:36:58 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Agreed. I find the brakes on the hooks to be really easy to get to. I 
> thought about inverse levers when I got mine, because i assumed I'd be 
> riding mostly near the ends, but I'm really glad I went with standard road 
> levers And setup the bars the way riv does. I find I ride between the hooks 
> and the ends most often, so the brakes are only a few inches away. The 
> brake "hoods" are also somewhat useful as a hand location when you want to 
> stretch out more. 

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread drew
Agreed. I find the brakes on the hooks to be really easy to get to. I thought 
about inverse levers when I got mine, because i assumed I'd be riding mostly 
near the ends, but I'm really glad I went with standard road levers And setup 
the bars the way riv does. I find I ride between the hooks and the ends most 
often, so the brakes are only a few inches away. The brake "hoods" are also 
somewhat useful as a hand location when you want to stretch out more. 

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread Surlyprof
I remember asking Keven about interrupters when I first bought my 
Albastache bar set up.  He said that there really wasn't any need since you 
can quickly shift your grip from upright to the braking position quickly 
and easily.  It has been my experience that he was right.

John 

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 7:49:32 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> I'm putting together a commuter bike for my 18-mile commute because my 
> fancy bikes are too fancy and my Clem is too long to fit nicely in the bike 
> racks on the train back home. So I'm going to build up an old English 
> 3-speed that will hopefully fit the bill. For handlebars, I am thinking 
> about using the albastache with two sets of brake levers: reverse levers in 
> the ends for the casual upright stance, and cyclocross-style interrupter 
> levers on the curves for when I'm riding more aggressively. 
>
> Has anyone tried this? If so, how'd it work for you? I wonder if the 
> interrupter levers will even mount on/near those curves.
>

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