[RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

[Call Me Jay]

Not exact--just close enough.

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[RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

[lum gim fong]

Jay,

I think this is a fit issue if you are trying to replicate your fit from 
one bike onto another. Is that the goal?

I have heard of something I think is called an "XY axis method" that does 
this. Done with lasers. I think it is based on how bars and saddle sit 
relative to the bb. I think. I am not sure I fully understood what the guy 
was telling me.
I had it done to transfer my fit from my Bleriot to my Rambouillet. IIRC my 
Rambouillet  needed saddle and bars back and lower than what I had guessed 
based on my own tape measure methods at home.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

[Call Me Jay]

What stem angle are folks running to get to around bar height without a ton of 
spacers or super steep stem angle---6 or 7 degrees? Photos would be helpful if 
you have them.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

[Patrick Moore]

Neither will affect the way the stem makes the bike feel. Obviously, they
will affect the fit and feel in other ways.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Kai Vierstra  wrote:

> Would they affect it, indirectly?
> -Kai
> Brooklyn NY
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[RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

[Kai Vierstra]

Would they affect it, indirectly?
-Kai
Brooklyn NY 

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[RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Neither head tube angle nor BB height will directly effect stem length.

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[RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

[Garth]

What about head tube angles, those must be acoounted for also !  What about 
bottom bracket heights also ?  Everything comes into play in subtle and not so 
subtle ways. FWIW, every bike is completely different, and as such you think 
you ought to be in a position just like X bike, but once upon the new bike it 
just does not work out that way since it has completely different 
characteristics,  

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[RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

[Call Me Jay]

Very helpful.  So, comparing: 

1) the 56.5 top tube length with 73 seat tube angle of the Legolas; 

2) the Homer's 58.5 top tube length, 72 seat tube angle, and current 90mm 
stem; and 

3) my second-hand Custom's 57.5 top tube length,72 seat tube angle, and 
current 90mm stem...

I think I need another 90mm stem.  Let me know if I'm missing anything or 
my math is off.  As always, thanks for the help.  This forum continues to 
be a great resource.



On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-5, Mojo wrote:
>
> Jay,
>
> To copy the cockpit position from the Homer to the Legolas, you need to 
> make one adjustment. Subtract one cm from your Legolas stem before you 
> compare and compensate for different top tube lengths. In other words, the 
> one degree steeper seat tube angle on the Legolas has taken up roughly 1 cm 
> of effective top tube length. In other-other words, your saddle will be 
> roughly 1 cm further back on the Legolas' seatpost to achieve the same leg 
> to crank position.
>
> Joe "with a Road Custom and Legolas that have the same 58cm top tube 
> length but two different stem lengths" Ramey
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 12:17:33 PM UTC-7, Call Me Jay wrote:
>
>> I'm building up a 57cm Legolas soon with a threadless steerer.  My 58cm 
>> 650b Homer and second hand 57ish cm Custom has 90mm quill stems and Noodle 
>> bars.  They fit like a glove.  Should a go with another 90mm or longer 
>> length because the angles are different or given the sportier geometry of 
>> the Legolas?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Jay,

To copy the cockpit position from the Homer to the Legolas, you need to 
make one adjustment. Subtract one cm from your Legolas stem before you 
compare and compensate for different top tube lengths. In other words, the 
one degree steeper seat tube angle on the Legolas has taken up roughly 1 cm 
of effective top tube length. In other-other words, your saddle will be 
roughly 1 cm further back on the Legolas' seatpost to achieve the same leg 
to crank position.

Joe "with a Road Custom and Legolas that have the same 58cm top tube length 
but two different stem lengths" Ramey

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 12:17:33 PM UTC-7, Call Me Jay wrote:

> I'm building up a 57cm Legolas soon with a threadless steerer.  My 58cm 
> 650b Homer and second hand 57ish cm Custom has 90mm quill stems and Noodle 
> bars.  They fit like a glove.  Should a go with another 90mm or longer 
> length because the angles are different or given the sportier geometry of 
> the Legolas?

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[RBW] Re: Legolas/Roadeo Owners: Threadless stem size vs quill

[Les Lammers]

Howdy Jay,

Maybe this will be helpful. http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 2:17:33 PM UTC-5, Call Me Jay wrote:

> I'm building up a 57cm Legolas soon with a threadless steerer.  My 58cm 
> 650b Homer and second hand 57ish cm Custom has 90mm quill stems and Noodle 
> bars.  They fit like a glove.  Should a go with another 90mm or longer 
> length because the angles are different or given the sportier geometry of 
> the Legolas?

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