[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
OK, I understand what you're saying. BTW, I'm index shifting (heresy!) and I seem to have it dialed in and shifting fine. I will consider spacers. Thanks for the info. Steve On May 5, 3:28 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/4/11 4:18 AM, islaysteve at alkire...@verizon.net wrote: When I recently built up my Bleriot (135mm) I used Velo Orange wheels (130mm). I asked the mechanic at VO about the spacing and he said that for a 5mm difference, I could just install the wheel and clamp it down with the skewers. I was able to do this with no problem at all. It shifts fine, so I don't think the chainline is out of whack. Of course, YMMV. Steve The only thing to be aware of is that the face of the hub will force an alignment of the dropouts. The issue is mainly the change of stresses on the connection of the rear dropouts to the stays at the brazing. There's plenty of elasticity in the steel so that the stays will clamp down and/or spread back out (and if you've ever seen a steel frame being respaced, it's pretty amazing how far you have to bend it to change things.) If you _had_ to do it for a single trip or instance, I wouldn't worry about it particularly (with a steel frame of course). But, if you were going to on a regularly basis, it's probably not a bad idea to put a couple spacers in there. It's bone simple stuff. I wouldn't even worry about changing the axle. As far as the chainline - it's a 2 mm shift at most. I didn't worry about that at all. Just checked the limit screws and enjoyed the benefits of analog shifting. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes You must be the change you want to see in the world. Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
on 5/4/11 4:18 AM, islaysteve at alkire...@verizon.net wrote: When I recently built up my Bleriot (135mm) I used Velo Orange wheels (130mm). I asked the mechanic at VO about the spacing and he said that for a 5mm difference, I could just install the wheel and clamp it down with the skewers. I was able to do this with no problem at all. It shifts fine, so I don't think the chainline is out of whack. Of course, YMMV. Steve The only thing to be aware of is that the face of the hub will force an alignment of the dropouts. The issue is mainly the change of stresses on the connection of the rear dropouts to the stays at the brazing. There's plenty of elasticity in the steel so that the stays will clamp down and/or spread back out (and if you've ever seen a steel frame being respaced, it's pretty amazing how far you have to bend it to change things.) If you _had_ to do it for a single trip or instance, I wouldn't worry about it particularly (with a steel frame of course). But, if you were going to on a regularly basis, it's probably not a bad idea to put a couple spacers in there. It's bone simple stuff. I wouldn't even worry about changing the axle. As far as the chainline - it's a 2 mm shift at most. I didn't worry about that at all. Just checked the limit screws and enjoyed the benefits of analog shifting. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes You must be the change you want to see in the world. Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
Hello, I'm new to the group. I have a 2009 AHH and it has 135 spacing. I believe the Saluki which the AHH replaced had 132.5 spacing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
The AHH was advertised as 135 when I considered buying one. I was surprised that GP moved away from the more versatile 132.5 of the Rambouillet, which was put to sleep when the AHH was released. Perhaps he thought the 135 fit the bikes image better. I didn't have any other bikes that took 135 and didn't want a non- compatible wheel set to deal with, along with the brakes, that was a deal breaker for me. I would recommend to the OP having the stays reset to 132.5 and using either set of wheels at will. michael On May 4, 2:36 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/3/11 9:03 PM, Joe Bartoe at jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Bruce, The AHHs are supposed to have 132.5 spacing. Unless you've altered that, you should be able to use 130 OLD wheels just fine. I did that on mine. My aught-eight model has 135, dead-on. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
I used a pair of 130 mm Shimano 105 hubs in a 135 spaced frame by adding 2 mm of spacers to each side of the axle. No re-dishing was needed, it worked fine. There's a bit less axle in the dropout but that makes no difference, as Sheldon pointed out the wheel is held by the locknut and skewer faces. It's also easily reversible. I wouldn't bother respacing the frame. My Riv Road was spaced 128 (to accept 126 or 130 hubs), and I think it's kind of a pain. Bill On May 3, 2:22 pm, Bruce Oppenheim br...@ohiotravelbag.com wrote: I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen at times when just riding paved roads. I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want to stress the frame. Thanks, Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
When I recently built up my Bleriot (135mm) I used Velo Orange wheels (130mm). I asked the mechanic at VO about the spacing and he said that for a 5mm difference, I could just install the wheel and clamp it down with the skewers. I was able to do this with no problem at all. It shifts fine, so I don't think the chainline is out of whack. Of course, YMMV. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
I did this on a 135mm frame I have making the 130mm rear hub I used a 133mm. This is exactly what the Surly Crosscheck was advertised to be able to do with its 132.5 mm spacing.fit either size axle. Chrome moly steel bends quite a bit before it stays bent ( no pun intended ) so I would add spacers and as long as enough axle is in the dropout you should be fine. It might be better to get a longer axle and add the spacers rather than trying to make a short axle work although I did it with my frame. On May 3, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/3/11 2:22 PM, Bruce Oppenheim at br...@ohiotravelbag.com wrote: I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen at times when just riding paved roads. I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want to stress the frame. It would probably be easier to just add a couple 2.5 mm spacers (or even 2's or 1.5's) to the axle. That's what I did to use a stock DuraAce hub which I'd been using on a 130 mm spaced frame. I'm not sure I've ever heard a definitive word on whether the bending would be bad, but it's easy enough to fix. - jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
The Ram had 132.5 spacing... the specs on the AHH say 135... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
