[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne

2010-03-04 Thread Mike
Great story, great looking bike. Welcome to the group. Keep pictures
and ride reports coming.

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[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne

2010-03-04 Thread RoadieRyan
Thanks for the story Ray nice setup on the Sam-like the bar tape and
the final bag set up

On Mar 3, 9:38 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:
 Hello,

 You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this.  I thought I'd
 share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait,
 the pics, skip the story:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/

 Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Eclair
 touring bike in Santa Cruz, CA.  That bike served me well for many
 years.  I don't know how many miles I put on it (tons) but I used it
 for school, work, grocery stores, camping, tearing through the hills,
 the valleys, rain or shine.  I didn't take long tours but did ride
 every major, and most minor, roads/trails in Santa Cruz / Monterey
 Counties probably a zillion times.

 Fast forward 25 years to my recent move to Livermore, CA.  This place
 is flat.  Poor old bike couldn't take that much pedaling and neither
 could I.  We were used to standing and charging up hills or getting
 low, butt back, flying down hills, very little long stretches where we
 just pedaled.  Now, the bent chainring squawked, the bent rear
 derailed squawked, my knees hurt after 30 miles or so, my neck hurt,
 shoulders, bleah. After many adjustments and attempts to make the
 endless pedaling more comfortable I decided I needed a new bike.
 Naturally I went to a bicycle store.   Unfortunately very few of the
 things they had with two wheels resembled a bicycle. I decided to hit
 garage sales and flea markets.  Not much there either.  The bikes were
 really beat up or aluminum mountain bikes or etc.  I wanted a steel
 touring bike, one that I could put racks, bags, bungee cords on and
 haul stuff.

 Suddenly I remembered this web site I visited.  I had purchased a
 couple of things in the past and I think they sold a bike called a…
 umm… Atlantic maybe?  It took a while to find it but it was
 Rivendell.  I saw they had the Hilsen.  It was almost what I was
 looking for except it didn't have cantilevers.   It made number 2 on
 my list.  The Kogswell made number 2 on my list as did a couple of
 others but nothing made number 1 so far.  After about four more months
 of garage sales I saw Rivendell announce the Hillborne. A bike between
 the Hilsen and Atlantis with cantilevers!  Finally a strong possible
 number 1.

 In Dec 08 I took a ride out to Walnut Creek.  My first visit to
 Rivendell and I was impressed.  Very friendly people and seeing the
 bikes in person was awe inspiring!   The one Hillborne was out but
 Kevin kept adjusting seat posts and saying here try this one
 (Atlantis),  here try this one (Bombadill), here try this one (Hilsen)
 until the Hillborne was back. I think I spent the entire day riding up
 and down the trail with a huge smile on my face. When I got back on
 the Lotus to ride home I immediately knew what was wrong.  The Lotus
 was way to small.  It was like riding a circus tricycle.

 I put a deposit on a Hillborne that day and picked it up in June of
 '09 and have been riding ever since with no pain.  The Hillborne feels
 like a luxury bike I can really stretch out on.  It takes the flats,
 hills, streams, roads, ruts, fence posts, everything like butter on a
 duck.

 The pictures sorta document the first six months and they are fun for
 me to look back on.  I'm surprised by how many places I've been with
 the bike considering how little free time I have.  It hasn't been just
 back and forth to work.  Bikes are a great way to get around and a
 comfortable bike is even better.  Thank you for putting up with my
 story.

 -Ray

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[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne

2010-03-04 Thread manueljohnacosta
Awesome story Ray. I think most people on this form felt the same way
about Rivendell. I know i do.

On Mar 3, 9:38 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:
 Hello,

 You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this.  I thought I'd
 share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait,
 the pics, skip the story:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/

 Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Eclair
 touring bike in Santa Cruz, CA.  That bike served me well for many
 years.  I don't know how many miles I put on it (tons) but I used it
 for school, work, grocery stores, camping, tearing through the hills,
 the valleys, rain or shine.  I didn't take long tours but did ride
 every major, and most minor, roads/trails in Santa Cruz / Monterey
 Counties probably a zillion times.

 Fast forward 25 years to my recent move to Livermore, CA.  This place
 is flat.  Poor old bike couldn't take that much pedaling and neither
 could I.  We were used to standing and charging up hills or getting
 low, butt back, flying down hills, very little long stretches where we
 just pedaled.  Now, the bent chainring squawked, the bent rear
 derailed squawked, my knees hurt after 30 miles or so, my neck hurt,
 shoulders, bleah. After many adjustments and attempts to make the
 endless pedaling more comfortable I decided I needed a new bike.
 Naturally I went to a bicycle store.   Unfortunately very few of the
 things they had with two wheels resembled a bicycle. I decided to hit
 garage sales and flea markets.  Not much there either.  The bikes were
 really beat up or aluminum mountain bikes or etc.  I wanted a steel
 touring bike, one that I could put racks, bags, bungee cords on and
 haul stuff.

 Suddenly I remembered this web site I visited.  I had purchased a
 couple of things in the past and I think they sold a bike called a…
 umm… Atlantic maybe?  It took a while to find it but it was
 Rivendell.  I saw they had the Hilsen.  It was almost what I was
 looking for except it didn't have cantilevers.   It made number 2 on
 my list.  The Kogswell made number 2 on my list as did a couple of
 others but nothing made number 1 so far.  After about four more months
 of garage sales I saw Rivendell announce the Hillborne. A bike between
 the Hilsen and Atlantis with cantilevers!  Finally a strong possible
 number 1.

 In Dec 08 I took a ride out to Walnut Creek.  My first visit to
 Rivendell and I was impressed.  Very friendly people and seeing the
 bikes in person was awe inspiring!   The one Hillborne was out but
 Kevin kept adjusting seat posts and saying here try this one
 (Atlantis),  here try this one (Bombadill), here try this one (Hilsen)
 until the Hillborne was back. I think I spent the entire day riding up
 and down the trail with a huge smile on my face. When I got back on
 the Lotus to ride home I immediately knew what was wrong.  The Lotus
 was way to small.  It was like riding a circus tricycle.

 I put a deposit on a Hillborne that day and picked it up in June of
 '09 and have been riding ever since with no pain.  The Hillborne feels
 like a luxury bike I can really stretch out on.  It takes the flats,
 hills, streams, roads, ruts, fence posts, everything like butter on a
 duck.

 The pictures sorta document the first six months and they are fun for
 me to look back on.  I'm surprised by how many places I've been with
 the bike considering how little free time I have.  It hasn't been just
 back and forth to work.  Bikes are a great way to get around and a
 comfortable bike is even better.  Thank you for putting up with my
 story.

 -Ray

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[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne

2010-03-04 Thread Way Rebb
Thank you all for the kind words.

It was fun putting the post together. I'm not a real big internet
gabber but I've been following this groups adventures for a couple of
months and figured what the heck.  I think the bike is about
finished.  Very reliable low maintenance transportation which is what
I was looking for...although  I might go back to smaller bags in
summer, or maybe a bigger rack in back that I could really lash stuff
to with some big fat tires, or maybe change it all to baskets and try
to find an orange fork to put on or...

Regards,
 Ray

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[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne

2010-03-03 Thread oldmangabe
129mm approx, that is what I had to do for my Atlantis.  Especially if
the stays are bowed out (like Atlantis).  SKF has one that might work,
or you can find an old UN-72, or a TA Axix.  Of course there is always
Phil Wood.
Gabe
On Mar 3, 10:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know what you felt. I ended up buying that Hillsen floor model. Great
 bike. Tho' I am seriously thinking of replacing with 160 mm Q Sugino with a
 narrower crank -- and possibly the B17 which, though comfortable, has to be
 a bit high-nosed, which causes its own problems. We'll see.

 Question for y'all: with a 135 OL spaced rear wheel with seven (7) speed
 rear hub, what spindle ought I to use for a Cyclotourist triple?

 Thanks.

 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:
  Hello,

  You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this.  I thought I'd
  share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait,
  the pics, skip the story:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/

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