[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-22 Thread lumpy
Thanks Jim for the thoughts.

The saddle isn't new, so maybe I'll try a very small angled change on it 
and see how it goes.  

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:28:37 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 The sliding is definitely a issue with a new Brooks saddle, especially if 
 you have been using the more prevalent commercial synthetic types.  Subtle 
 changes go a long way on saddle adjustment.  Also, after a few rides, your 
 hip bones (ichial 
 protruberanceshttps://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=firefox-ahs=F75rls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialsa=Xei=cBXiT-WZFc6A2QWQ5JTMCwved=0CAcQvgUoAAq=ichial+protruberancesnfpr=1)
  
 will indent the saddle a bit.

 As for the shoulder issue, the change from drops to arc bars is pretty 
 significant.  It will feel different and may result in some direct soreness 
 as the joints get used to a different angle and stresses.  Sharp pains are 
 no good, but a touch of adjustment is natural.  You may want to experiment 
 a bit with the angle set up on the bars as well.  I tweaked my moustache 
 bars slightly downward and it made a significant difference.  If you 
 over-angle your wrists, everything north of that has to compensate, which 
 could lead to some shoulder or neck issues.  Bring a wrench and trust your 
 body to know what's right.

 Congrats, by the way!

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com




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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-22 Thread lungimsam
I'd be interested. If the standover size is 79.5cm that is a 55 frame, my 
size for Bleriot.
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:06:26 PM UTC-4, Justin August wrote:

 Funny...
 I have 56ish Bleriot tha I may be selling if it doesn't turn into the 
 spare bike...

 -J


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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-21 Thread Justin August
Funny...
I have 56ish Bleriot tha I may be selling if it doesn't turn into the spare 
bike...

-J

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-20 Thread lumpy
learned quite a bit by doing this work by myself.  Removed my STI shifters 
and brake interrupters, along with the cabling and housing, and a stem 
riser and replaced the stock volpe drop-bars with albatross bars with 
shimano MTB brake levers and silver shifters. 

Got everything working just great, glued on some cork grips, twined and 
shellac'd and am totally enjoying my new ride.  Friction shifters are 
smooth as could be and make a whole lot more sense to me than STI does. 
 Only glitch I ran into was not realizing exactly where the front 
derailleur cable should fit, so when i first attached it the front shifting 
was very difficult to do.  All better now thanks to some web-sleuthing.

Will try to take and post a photo tomorrow from my commute...

On Monday, June 11, 2012 3:53:30 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on friction shifting with 
 power-ratchet shifters..I presume you've been shifting index on your Volpe. 
 I thought I would never adapt to friction, but kind of stumbled into it 
 when I bought a couple of bikes with the old Suntour shifters (bar-ends on 
 one, thumbies on another). I figured I would deal with it because that's 
 what they came with, but would prefer indexing if given the choice.
  
 Until I bought a couple more bikes with clicks. Nope. Now the loud, clunky 
 index shift drives me crazy. I love the silent, smooth action of power 
 ratchets, and find it just about impossible to miss a shift. 
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Monday, June 11, 2012 8:41:41 AM UTC-7, lumpy wrote:

 now let's just see how funky this volpe will look with albatross 
 bars :) 

 Ordered albatross bars, cork grips, silver bar end shifters, brake 
 levers, and cabling…. 



 On Jun 10, 8:47 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982. 
  Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will 
  get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a 
  Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want. 
  Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you 
  are making. 
  
  On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56 
   Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe 
   a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant 
   assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the 
   suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more 
   upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further 
   investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction 
   that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ 
 shopping 
   cart on rivbike.com 
  
   oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85. 
  
   On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better 
 then.  I 
measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8 
  
On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: 
  
 What size do you ride/need?  :-) 
  
 On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hey now, 
  
  Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am 
 taking my 
 first 
  trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of 
 these 
 beauties 
  in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a 
 stem 
 extender 
  can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful 
 if I can 
  afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to 
 start saving 
  and scouring craigslist! 
  
  Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 
 miles 
 round 
  trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've 
 ridden steel 
  frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin 
 aggressive 
  bike...only switching to a bianchi last year. 
  
  Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually 
 be ;) 
  Dave



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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-20 Thread lumpy


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gd5AUvFzknA/T-Hyr2Ij3zI/CBc/63ZAQGiHv7o/s1600/photo-3.JPG
first time commuting on non-clipless pedals since 2004.  felt real 
niceuntil my shoelaces got caught in the gears!  

The ride has changed remarkably - and almost entirely for the better.  I'm 
sliding forward a bit on the seat - which may be correctable by giving a 
backwards tilt to the saddle.  Also a bit of discomfort on the tops of my 
shoulders.  Better than the discomfort in my shoulder blades I had with 
drops, but surprised that I was still feeling any.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:44:22 PM UTC-7, lumpy wrote:

 learned quite a bit by doing this work by myself.  Removed my STI shifters 
 and brake interrupters, along with the cabling and housing, and a stem 
 riser and replaced the stock volpe drop-bars with albatross bars with 
 shimano MTB brake levers and silver shifters. 

 Got everything working just great, glued on some cork grips, twined and 
 shellac'd and am totally enjoying my new ride.  Friction shifters are 
 smooth as could be and make a whole lot more sense to me than STI does. 
  Only glitch I ran into was not realizing exactly where the front 
 derailleur cable should fit, so when i first attached it the front shifting 
 was very difficult to do.  All better now thanks to some web-sleuthing.

 Will try to take and post a photo tomorrow from my commute...

 On Monday, June 11, 2012 3:53:30 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on friction shifting with 
 power-ratchet shifters..I presume you've been shifting index on your Volpe. 
 I thought I would never adapt to friction, but kind of stumbled into it 
 when I bought a couple of bikes with the old Suntour shifters (bar-ends on 
 one, thumbies on another). I figured I would deal with it because that's 
 what they came with, but would prefer indexing if given the choice.
  
 Until I bought a couple more bikes with clicks. Nope. Now the loud, 
 clunky index shift drives me crazy. I love the silent, smooth action of 
 power ratchets, and find it just about impossible to miss a shift. 
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Monday, June 11, 2012 8:41:41 AM UTC-7, lumpy wrote:

 now let's just see how funky this volpe will look with albatross 
 bars :) 

 Ordered albatross bars, cork grips, silver bar end shifters, brake 
 levers, and cabling…. 



 On Jun 10, 8:47 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982. 
  Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will 
  get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a 
  Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want. 
  Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you 
  are making. 
  
  On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 
 56 
   Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi 
 Volpe 
   a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant 
   assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the 
   suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more 
   upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further 
   investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction 
   that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ 
 shopping 
   cart on rivbike.com 
  
   oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85. 
  
   On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better 
 then.  I 
measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8 
  
On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: 
  
 What size do you ride/need?  :-) 
  
 On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hey now, 
  
  Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am 
 taking my 
 first 
  trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of 
 these 
 beauties 
  in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a 
 stem 
 extender 
  can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful 
 if I can 
  afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to 
 start saving 
  and scouring craigslist! 
  
  Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 
 18 miles 
 round 
  trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've 
 ridden steel 
  frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin 
 aggressive 
  bike...only switching to a bianchi last year. 
  
  Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can 
 actually be ;) 
  Dave



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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-20 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
The sliding is definitely a issue with a new Brooks saddle, especially if 
you have been using the more prevalent commercial synthetic types.  Subtle 
changes go a long way on saddle adjustment.  Also, after a few rides, your 
hip bones (ichial 
protruberanceshttps://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=firefox-ahs=F75rls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialsa=Xei=cBXiT-WZFc6A2QWQ5JTMCwved=0CAcQvgUoAAq=ichial+protruberancesnfpr=1)
 
will indent the saddle a bit.

As for the shoulder issue, the change from drops to arc bars is pretty 
significant.  It will feel different and may result in some direct soreness 
as the joints get used to a different angle and stresses.  Sharp pains are 
no good, but a touch of adjustment is natural.  You may want to experiment 
a bit with the angle set up on the bars as well.  I tweaked my moustache 
bars slightly downward and it made a significant difference.  If you 
over-angle your wrists, everything north of that has to compensate, which 
could lead to some shoulder or neck issues.  Bring a wrench and trust your 
body to know what's right.

Congrats, by the way!

- Jim / cyclofiend.com


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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-19 Thread djm
newbie here too.  recently fell in love with rivendells  am 
dreaming/scheming ways to call one mine.   soon.

hello there all.
djm

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Re: [RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-19 Thread clyde canter
Hello to you.  You are about to make a wise choice in bicycles.  I really
don't think you could own a better bicycle than a Rivendell. There's a
wealth of of information here.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM, djm davidjamesmille...@gmail.com wrote:

 newbie here too.  recently fell in love with rivendells  am
 dreaming/scheming ways to call one mine.   soon.

 hello there all.
 djm

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Re: [RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-19 Thread clyde canter
Dang, hit send too quick.  Good luck on your choice.
Best,
Clyde (Rambouillet, Hillborne, Quickbeam) Canter
I think I spelled Rambouillet correctly.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello to you.  You are about to make a wise choice in bicycles.  I really
 don't think you could own a better bicycle than a Rivendell. There's a
 wealth of of information here.

 On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM, djm davidjamesmille...@gmail.com wrote:

 newbie here too.  recently fell in love with rivendells  am
 dreaming/scheming ways to call one mine.   soon.

 hello there all.
 djm

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Re: [RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-13 Thread Steven Frederick
Charlie, you might enjoy the pics of my '83!  Nice bike--the frameset and
some parts were my first successful ebay bid...in the late 90's as I recall.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/4538780377/in/set-72157628236685415/

Steve

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:47 PM, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

 My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982.
 Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will
 get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a
 Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want.
 Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you
 are making.

 On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
  so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56
  Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe
  a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant
  assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the
  suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more
  upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further
  investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction
  that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ shopping
  cart on rivbike.com
 
  oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85.
 
  On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better
 then.  I
   measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8
 
   On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote:
 
What size do you ride/need?  :-)
 
On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey now,
 
 Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking
 my
first
 trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these
beauties
 in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem
extender
 can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I
 can
 afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start
 saving
 and scouring craigslist!
 
 Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18
 miles
round
 trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden
 steel
 frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin
 aggressive
 bike...only switching to a bianchi last year.
 
 Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be
 ;)
 Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-11 Thread lumpy
now let's just see how funky this volpe will look with albatross
bars :)

Ordered albatross bars, cork grips, silver bar end shifters, brake
levers, and cabling….



On Jun 10, 8:47 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
 My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982.
 Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will
 get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a
 Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want.
 Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you
 are making.

 On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:







  so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56
  Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe
  a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant
  assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the
  suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more
  upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further
  investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction
  that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ shopping
  cart on rivbike.com

  oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85.

  On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:

   Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better then.  I
   measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8

   On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote:

What size do you ride/need?  :-)

On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey now,

 Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my
first
 trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these
beauties
 in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem
extender
 can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can
 afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start 
 saving
 and scouring craigslist!

 Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles
round
 trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel
 frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin 
 aggressive
 bike...only switching to a bianchi last year.

 Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;)
 Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-11 Thread Joe Bernard
It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on friction shifting with 
power-ratchet shifters..I presume you've been shifting index on your Volpe. 
I thought I would never adapt to friction, but kind of stumbled into it 
when I bought a couple of bikes with the old Suntour shifters (bar-ends on 
one, thumbies on another). I figured I would deal with it because that's 
what they came with, but would prefer indexing if given the choice.
 
Until I bought a couple more bikes with clicks. Nope. Now the loud, clunky 
index shift drives me crazy. I love the silent, smooth action of power 
ratchets, and find it just about impossible to miss a shift. 
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Monday, June 11, 2012 8:41:41 AM UTC-7, lumpy wrote:

 now let's just see how funky this volpe will look with albatross 
 bars :) 

 Ordered albatross bars, cork grips, silver bar end shifters, brake 
 levers, and cabling…. 



 On Jun 10, 8:47 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982. 
  Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will 
  get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a 
  Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want. 
  Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you 
  are making. 
  
  On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56 
   Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe 
   a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant 
   assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the 
   suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more 
   upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further 
   investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction 
   that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ shopping 
   cart on rivbike.com 
  
   oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85. 
  
   On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better 
 then.  I 
measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8 
  
On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: 
  
 What size do you ride/need?  :-) 
  
 On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hey now, 
  
  Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am 
 taking my 
 first 
  trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of 
 these 
 beauties 
  in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a 
 stem 
 extender 
  can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if 
 I can 
  afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to 
 start saving 
  and scouring craigslist! 
  
  Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 
 miles 
 round 
  trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden 
 steel 
  frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin 
 aggressive 
  bike...only switching to a bianchi last year. 
  
  Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually 
 be ;) 
  Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-10 Thread lumpy
so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56
Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe
a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant
assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the
suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more
upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further
investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction
that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ shopping
cart on rivbike.com

oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85.

On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better then.  I
 measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8







 On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote:

  What size do you ride/need?  :-)

  On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hey now,

   Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my
  first
   trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these
  beauties
   in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem
  extender
   can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can
   afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start saving
   and scouring craigslist!

   Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles
  round
   trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel
   frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin aggressive
   bike...only switching to a bianchi last year.

   Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;)
   Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-10 Thread Manuel Acosta
Another reason why I love the shop. Hard sells are not in anyone 
vocabulary. Instead of trying sell you a brand new bike, they offered a 
cheaper way of making the bike more useful. Welcome to the group!

On Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:02:34 PM UTC-7, lumpy wrote:

 so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56 
 Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe 
 a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant 
 assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the 
 suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more 
 upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further 
 investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction 
 that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ shopping 
 cart on rivbike.com 

 oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85. 

 On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better then. 
  I 
  measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: 
  
   What size do you ride/need?  :-) 
  
   On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
Hey now, 
  
Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking 
 my 
   first 
trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these 
   beauties 
in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem 
   extender 
can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I 
 can 
afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start 
 saving 
and scouring craigslist! 
  
Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 
 miles 
   round 
trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden 
 steel 
frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin 
 aggressive 
bike...only switching to a bianchi last year. 
  
Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be 
 ;) 
Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-10 Thread charlie
My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982.
Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will
get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a
Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want.
Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you
are making.

On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
 so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56
 Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe
 a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant
 assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the
 suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more
 upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further
 investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction
 that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ shopping
 cart on rivbike.com

 oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85.

 On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:







  Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better then.  I
  measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8

  On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote:

   What size do you ride/need?  :-)

   On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey now,

Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my
   first
trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these
   beauties
in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem
   extender
can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can
afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start saving
and scouring craigslist!

Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles
   round
trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel
frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin aggressive
bike...only switching to a bianchi last year.

Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;)
Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-09 Thread lumpy
Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better then.  I 
measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8

On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote:

 What size do you ride/need?  :-) 

 On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hey now, 
  
  Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my 
 first 
  trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these 
 beauties 
  in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem 
 extender 
  can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can 
  afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start saving 
  and scouring craigslist! 
  
  Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles 
 round 
  trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel 
  frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin aggressive 
  bike...only switching to a bianchi last year. 
  
  Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;) 
  Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-07 Thread Liesl
Welcome to the group!  A fount of information and opinions–much of it even 
quite useful!

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

2012-06-07 Thread pb
What size do you ride/need?  :-)

On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy davele...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey now,

 Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my first
 trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these beauties
 in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem extender
 can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can
 afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start saving
 and scouring craigslist!

 Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles round
 trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel
 frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin aggressive
 bike...only switching to a bianchi last year.

 Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;)
 Dave

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