[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-04 Thread Matthew J
PB: People invested trillions of dollars in syndicated bad mortgage bundles a few years ago. Hardly meant it was a good idea. Imagine it is not that hard to track down $70 k worth of suckers out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-03 Thread bobish
Making fun of this idea from the point of view of a cyclist who uses 700c-ish wheels is to miss the point, and the inventor seems to have a pretty good understanding and appreciation of how bicycles work. Agreed. Assuming this works beyond just in theory (my main concern is energy loss

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-03 Thread Ron Mc
my nephew and his wife crossed Australia on Bromptons with their two babies in trail. He finished with a destroyed tire wrapped in duck tape (and a lot of pumping). He could have probably used an airless tire. On Friday, May 3, 2013 4:42:40 AM UTC-5, bobish wrote: Making fun of this idea

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-03 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Small tires (Brompton is 349 bsd) wear out fast because of the number of rotations to cover a given distance. Schwalbe makes the Marathon Plus in this size, which is pretty close to being a solid tire! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-03 Thread pb
On Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:51:58 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: Airless tires have so much resistance that you'd rather change a flat every 10 miles! We tested a set of airless tires for our latest tire test (Bicycle Quarterly Spring 2013), and found that they used 50% more power than a good

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-03 Thread Jan Heine
Sorry that there is a misunderstanding. I don't judge the merits of the invention until I have seen and ridden it. It is well possible that 15 years from now, we all ride on those wheels. (Grant predicted/lamented in an early Rivendell Reader that spoked wheels would become obsolete, and he

Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-03 Thread Robert
Depends on what one means by slow. Best Regards, R Zeidler Prime Mover On May 3, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: Sorry that there is a misunderstanding. I don't judge the merits of the invention until I have seen and ridden it. It is well possible that 15 years

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-02 Thread dougP
The whole thing looks a bit loopy. dougP On Thursday, May 2, 2013 8:34:31 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: It's always nice to see people trying to innovate, but I doubt Jim Thill, Peter White, or Rich Lesnik will be too worried about this.

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-02 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Always interesting to see outside the box cycling innovations, usually, I think, from people who don't have much knowledge or experience with bicycles as they are now. We've had one inventive customer, who for several years has been trying to develop a new kind of human powered vehicle.

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-02 Thread Ron Mc
things that don't need reinventing: fly fishing, bicycle, brooks saddle On Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:57:39 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Always interesting to see outside the box cycling innovations, usually, I think, from people who don't have much knowledge or experience

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-02 Thread Jan Heine
I cannot help but laugh at the sentence: *So you don’t need to rely on fat (and sluggish) tyres to cushion your ride.* Obviously, the inventor isn't aware of recent research – in part by *Bicycle Quarterly* – that has shown that wider tires don't roll any slower than narrow ones. Hence even

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-02 Thread pb
For an urban utility/runaround bike with small diameter wheels, this strikes me as a very clever idea. I was waiting to discover that the tires were non-pneumatic, which might make the whole assembly even more attractive, as there would be no more flats. I wonder if the loops smooth things

Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-02 Thread Peter Morgano
Changing a tube is a 5 minute job, I doubt you could go to your lbs with a broken loop thing hahaha. Some ideas should stay just that. On May 2, 2013 8:55 PM, pb pbridge...@aol.com wrote: For an urban utility/runaround bike with small diameter wheels, this strikes me as a very clever idea. I

[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-02 Thread Jan Heine
Airless tires have so much resistance that you'd rather change a flat every 10 miles! We tested a set of airless tires for our latest tire test (Bicycle Quarterly Spring 2013), and found that they used 50% more power than a good racing tire. Maintaining 20 mph was very hard work. And in

Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally

2013-05-02 Thread PATRICK MOORE
A very slight correction. From my own admittedly limited experience, air less tires fell no worse than: Thick belted tire with Heavy, stiff sidewalls, lined with Heavy Mr Tuffys, with 500 gram thorn-proof tubes laced with A pint of Slime. An airless tire can actually feel better than this --