[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-11-05 Thread lungimsam
UPDATE: So I removed that twisty front fender, and, holding it out to look a it saw that the stays were a little off center in the eyelets, as one stay was further out to the side of fender than the other. I loosened eyelets and re-centered the stays, attached to dropouts and retightened stay

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-11-02 Thread Richard
David said it. Get rid of the Tektro front brake. I know people say they should work with those fenders, but the reality is the clearance isn't there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-11-02 Thread Edwin W
I love the look of metal fenders and hope to have them one day, but hearing installation discussions like these terrifies me. I take long enough to put on the sks longboards, cursing and adjusting along the way. Give me a ten minute bike job and I'll make it an hour, Edwin -- You received

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-11-02 Thread Anton Tutter
Edwin, it's true that aluminum fenders take a lot more finessing to get right than SKS chromoplastics, or Planet Bike polycarbonates, but because they're malleable you can actually get them to do what you want. I can't ever get a perfect fender line with the plastic fenders, and have to rely

Re: [RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-11-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Edwin: don't be alarmed. I'm not exactly a klutz, but I am impatient enough that I generally grasp the general principle and apply it leaving out one or more of the tedious but necessary intermediate steps. Yet I've installed at least 2 pairs of metal fenders with good results and with no more

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-11-01 Thread Anton Tutter
Hmm... except that it only happens sometimes, and what I've noticed is that whenever I reshape the arc radius I sometimes unintentionally also introduce a twist problem. I suspect it's because one edge has a slightly different arc radius than the other edge. The question becomes, how to

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-11-01 Thread Anton Tutter
2. When I tighten the stays to the dropouts, it over straightens the tail and it winds up twisting the other way. Weird. This is caused because the fender and stays are not stress relieved (pre-bent). They are not assuming the final shape you want them to before they are bolted up. By

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-10-31 Thread lungimsam
UPDATE: Thanks for your ideas everyone. I decided to use a Honjo L bracket with Sheldon fender nut, and the radius and fenderlines are fine that way. The fender has 1mm clearance between it and the brake when brake is centered and QR closed. So that works fine. *Now two more minor issues:*

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2014-10-31 Thread rperks
I think that twist is an archive of the fact that they come off of the forming machines in a big curly Q. with the fender off the bike twist it a bt the other way and gently cold set the twist out. At least that is what I do with the Honjos Rob On Friday, October 31, 2014 3:11:02 PM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-10-29 Thread Ron Mc
http://www.renehersebicycles.com/NPP%20Fenders.htm You might want to take a look at Boulder's fender daruma wedges. These worked great for me matching fender and wheel radius, and not having to flatten much of anything. The 3 mm clearance sounds frightening - you may have to cut the daruma

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2014-10-29 Thread Anton Tutter
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:52:42 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: *Issue 2:* The fender needs to be dented more than the factory indent has, or wedged under the fork crown in order to tip the fender to conform to the radius of the tire since fork crown doesn't. But, due to the calipers

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2014-10-29 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
That is a really good workaround! On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:15:29 PM UTC-7, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: One way you can handle the daruma nut problem is to use a recessed brake nut instead of the usual nut. You can put the spacers on the outside of the nut, and the rim on the

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2014-10-29 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Credit to the iBOB list...I recently needed assistance on a similar question, and they came through. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-10-29 Thread Anton Tutter
It also comes in handy when you need to extend the daruma bolt for extra fender drop, such as on 650B conversions! https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5173/5402782717_2e2fce3c5a_z.jpg https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4082/5411771107_8cc694e743_z.jpg Anton On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:11:06 PM

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-10-29 Thread lungimsam
I already did it with the brakes centered and tensioned and QR closed and no dice. Holding the fender at brake height where it hits the brakes and then lowering a mm to clear it then requires about 1/8 wedge for daruma to close the gap. *But *no use in doing that as I will still need to rotate

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-10-29 Thread lungimsam
I have no room to change the dent to tilt the nose of the fender upward for radius matching because the calipers prevent the nose of the fender from rising anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

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2014-10-29 Thread David Hays
On my Homer, I did manage to get a little additional top clearance by switching from 559s to Dia Compe Mod 750 center pulls. David On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:18:25 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: I have no room to change the dent to tilt the nose of the fender upward for radius matching

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-10-29 Thread Philip Williamson
I hate darumas. Darumas are the devil. They steal clearance just where you want it most. My favorite fender mounts so far have been home-brewed lengths of aluminum stock that I bent, slotted, and riveted. Any length you want, and the slotting is crucial. On plastic fenders, you can actually

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-10-29 Thread lungimsam
Makes me wonder why fender manufacturers design hardware that eats tire-to-inside-of-fender clearance. Pan head screws with the heads inside of fender, bolts on the outside would be a great way to do it. Antons idea with the brake bolt nut is great, but I would Loctite it for sure. I'll have

[RBW] Re: Please help me with my Honjo fork crown problem please.

2014-10-29 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
I'm not sure what this concern is about. 3mm of space between the end of a bolt and the tire is plenty as it's not zero. The tire's never going to expand and the crown daruma bolt isn't going to drop. In addition, it is very unlikely that something's going to get caught at the very narrow

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2014-10-29 Thread Anton Tutter
Benz, I always use a wide washer with the brake bolt to minimize stresses around the narrow lip of the brake bolt. Sometimes the washer has to be drilled out for the brake bolt. Six years of riding alloy fenders and no stress cracks yet. -- You received this message because you are

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2014-10-29 Thread rperks
Lungisman, DO not settle for the 3mm! Think about which way the tire moves when you hit a big bump, does it move more than 3mm and what would happen if the spinning tire had a bolt fixed to the crown stab into it? Is the risk of this happening worth it? I have had situations like this get