[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

Thank you for all your recommendations and feedback! I'll continue to plan 
my trip and maybe have a report in early Nov about how things went!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Eric Norris]

Ty:

I rode south in May and had to bypass Big Sur by going inland through King 
City, Fort Hunter Liggett, Nacimiento, and Paso Robles on the way to Morro Bay. 
It’s a longer route with a lot of climbing and many sections with limited 
services, but it made for a great (if long) day on the bike.

Here’s my route:

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/19109436

If Big Sur is open next May when I do my coast ride again, I’ll go back to that 
route.

--Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Ty Graham  wrote:
> 
> There's a lot of discussion of big sur over on the ACA forums. The detour 
> sounds long and unfun. I just decided to wait. 
> 
> Ty
> seattle
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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Ty Graham]

There's a lot of discussion of big sur over on the ACA forums. The detour 
sounds long and unfun. I just decided to wait. 

Ty
seattle

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[dougP]

There was a massive landslide just north of Ragged Point that is unlikely 
to be resolved with a year.  One proposal is to re-route the highway around 
the slide which would be a massive project.  The bridge that's out is high 
priority, and will expedite repair of smaller slides and other work.  

Likely that within a year you will be able to at least ride your bike as 
far south as Naciemento Ferguson Rd, then take that steep climb up to 
Hunter Ligget and pick up a southbound route into Paso Robles.  However, 
another winter like last one could further impact the highway.  

dougP

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your 
> experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially 
> if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What 
> routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? 
> Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?
>
> I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought *Bicycling The Pacific Coast* 
> by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any 
> particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't 
> go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card 
> touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, 
> sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind 
> schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.
>
> I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a 
> S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, 
> today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route 
> won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do 
> vacation things.
>
> Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I 
> get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL
>

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[John A. Bennett]

Bookmark this link, and check it periodically for status updates:

http://www.bigsurcalifornia.org/highway_conditions.html

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 2:21:17 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> What exactly is the status of Big Sur?  I've been planning to do the SF to 
> LA ride late next year (circa September 2018), and can't seem to find out 
> whether the route is projected to be open.  Is it currently closed 
> altogether?  Even for bikes?
> Many thanks,
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote:
>>
>> I road Astoria to San Francisco in 2014. I'm planning to ride Portland to 
>> Brookings in a few weeks.
>> The Oregon portion is definitely the best part. I'm repeating that 
>> portion since the California coast at big sur is screwed up until 2018. 
>> I rode my Atlantis with compass 700x38 which I consider the perfect bike 
>> for this ride. 
>> I credit card toured which was the right choice for me except for 2 
>> downsides: northern cal the loading gets thin. I had to put together some 
>> weird days just to make motels work. Motels can get expensive as you get 
>> close to the Bay Area. I paid $250 for an $80 room on Saturday in Gualala. 
>> Other down side is missing out on hanging out with trail friends. Everyone 
>> you meet and you'll meet a lot is camping. It was strange to keep riding 
>> past the campground on to my lonely motel. 
>> I used the ACA maps. I'd highly recommend. I'm pure digital, but really 
>> like having the analog map to ponder. I have the book but didn't use it on 
>> the trip. Folks with the book seemed to be doing a lot more 101 riding and 
>> seeing less of the nice side roads. 
>> Here's a link to my Flickr. You can see elevation profiles and totals in 
>> the bottom maps. 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/13233995@N08/albums/72157648434202048
>> Hit me up if you have more questions. 
>> Ty
>>
>> Hit me up if you have m
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Kevin Lindsey]

What exactly is the status of Big Sur?  I've been planning to do the SF to 
LA ride late next year (circa September 2018), and can't seem to find out 
whether the route is projected to be open.  Is it currently closed 
altogether?  Even for bikes?
Many thanks,
Kevin Lindsey
Alexandria, VA

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote:
>
> I road Astoria to San Francisco in 2014. I'm planning to ride Portland to 
> Brookings in a few weeks.
> The Oregon portion is definitely the best part. I'm repeating that portion 
> since the California coast at big sur is screwed up until 2018. 
> I rode my Atlantis with compass 700x38 which I consider the perfect bike 
> for this ride. 
> I credit card toured which was the right choice for me except for 2 
> downsides: northern cal the loading gets thin. I had to put together some 
> weird days just to make motels work. Motels can get expensive as you get 
> close to the Bay Area. I paid $250 for an $80 room on Saturday in Gualala. 
> Other down side is missing out on hanging out with trail friends. Everyone 
> you meet and you'll meet a lot is camping. It was strange to keep riding 
> past the campground on to my lonely motel. 
> I used the ACA maps. I'd highly recommend. I'm pure digital, but really 
> like having the analog map to ponder. I have the book but didn't use it on 
> the trip. Folks with the book seemed to be doing a lot more 101 riding and 
> seeing less of the nice side roads. 
> Here's a link to my Flickr. You can see elevation profiles and totals in 
> the bottom maps. 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/13233995@N08/albums/72157648434202048
> Hit me up if you have more questions. 
> Ty
>
> Hit me up if you have m
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[John A. Bennett]

Seventeen years ago, I was 6 months away from getting my Atlantis, and 2 
months away from starting my job at Rivendell.

I made the coast trip on a (too small for me) Trek that I bought at 
Goodwill for $24.99. 

After I started at Riv, I gave it to my then RBW co-worker, Joe Bauder, who 
--I think-- either still has it or only very recently got rid of it. 

JAB/PDX

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:53:52 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> Very weird to think that 17 years ago, it's possible that you were on your 
> Atlantis. "Hey! That bike's a real classic, isn't it?"
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: "John A. Bennett" 
> Sent: Aug 28, 2017 3:22 PM 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Portland to SF? 
>
> I used *Bicycling The Pacific Coast Highway* on a trip from Fort Bragg to 
> San Diego 17 years ago, and found it both indispensable and without flaw in 
> those pre-GPS days. 
>
> Glad to see it's still being updated (and published). 
>
> John in Portland, Oregon
>
> On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>>
>> Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your 
>> experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially 
>> if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What 
>> routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? 
>> Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?
>>
>> I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought *Bicycling The Pacific Coast* 
>> by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any 
>> particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't 
>> go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card 
>> touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, 
>> sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind 
>> schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.
>>
>> I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a 
>> S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, 
>> today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route 
>> won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do 
>> vacation things.
>>
>> Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I 
>> get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL
>>
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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Kurt Manley]

One thing about camping vs hotels is there will be other folks doing the 
same route and some likely one the same pace as you. It makes for some 
great company around the campfire at night if you choose to camp. I made 
some very cool friends when I did it that I still have to this day. Camping 
is not hard at all imo. You'll be able to pick up supplies every day so you 
don't need to carry much.


On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your 
> experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially 
> if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What 
> routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? 
> Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?
>
> I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought *Bicycling The Pacific Coast* 
> by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any 
> particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't 
> go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card 
> touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, 
> sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind 
> schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.
>
> I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a 
> S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, 
> today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route 
> won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do 
> vacation things.
>
> Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I 
> get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL
>

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

Great route. Lots of little towns, which makes it easy to travel light. Plus, 
you'll be riding all the best parts of it. If you end up riding through 
Nehalem, stop at Buttercup for THE BEST chowder on the Oregon coast. Each 
serving is made fresh with super unique flavors. Gluten free and vegan options 
too! Also, they have great ice cream.

Cheers! 
Tim
Portland, OR

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Jonathan D.]

I second Doug's recommendations and John's book recommendations. My wife and I 
rode the Oregon section in 2008 fully loaded on a Trek 1000 and a skinny 
cyclecross bike doing 50 miles a day. We didn't have the right equipment, the 
wind was always in our face and I learned why I should have purchased a Brooks 
B17. It was still a great ride, great campgrounds and inould do it again just 
with a Riv next time. The book was great. 

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[dougP]

Benz:

I forgot to mention one way cars.  Between major airports, e.g., SJO to 
PDX, you can often rent a one way dirt cheap but you have to shop around.  
Rental companies often wind up with an excess in one location & shortage at 
another.  You'd need to check several agencies, and it's luck of the draw 
on what you get.  But if you're traveling alone, you really don't care and 
the a tiny hatchback is perfect for one person + one bike.  OTH they could 
have a glut of giant SUVs.  And of course there's the shear hassle of 
driving 700 miles.  But it's a decent option to keep in mind.

dougP

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your 
> experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially 
> if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What 
> routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? 
> Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?
>
> I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought *Bicycling The Pacific Coast* 
> by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any 
> particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't 
> go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card 
> touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, 
> sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind 
> schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.
>
> I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a 
> S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, 
> today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route 
> won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do 
> vacation things.
>
> Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I 
> get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[James Warren]

Very weird to think that 17 years ago, it's possible that you were on your Atlantis. "Hey! That bike's a real classic, isn't it?"-Original Message-
From: "John A. Bennett" <jabin...@gmail.com>
Sent: Aug 28, 2017 3:22 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

I used Bicycling The Pacific Coast Highway on a trip from Fort Bragg to San Diego 17 years ago, and found it both indispensable and without flaw in those pre-GPS days. Glad to see it's still being updated (and published). John in Portland, OregonOn Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought Bicycling The Pacific Coast by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do vacation things.Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL



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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[John A. Bennett]

I used *Bicycling The Pacific Coast Highway* on a trip from Fort Bragg to 
San Diego 17 years ago, and found it both indispensable and without flaw in 
those pre-GPS days. 

Glad to see it's still being updated (and published). 

John in Portland, Oregon

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your 
> experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially 
> if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What 
> routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? 
> Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?
>
> I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought *Bicycling The Pacific Coast* 
> by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any 
> particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't 
> go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card 
> touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, 
> sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind 
> schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.
>
> I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a 
> S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, 
> today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route 
> won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do 
> vacation things.
>
> Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I 
> get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL
>

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[dougP]

Take the Atlantis; that's its mission in life.  You've got the most 
comprehensive resource in Bicycling the Pacific Coast.  Hiker / biker camp 
facilities in Oregon are generally good.  Inexpensive & usually hot 
showers.  Some are even in towns so you can walk to meals & still camp 
out.  Plus you meet some interesting people in campgrounds.  Things thin 
out a bit in Northern California as far as lodging so having the camp gear 
will give you flexibility.  Take your time & stop for side trips.  Two 
weeks is reasonable.  You won't have to do any days like you did today but 
you will be carrying gear which makes a difference.  Below Eureka / Arcata 
take the side trip to Ferndale; it's a better ride & rejoins 101 at 
Scotia.  In Oregon, take the side trip called Slab Creek / old 101 that 
drops you out in Otis.  Stop for pie at the Otis Pie Co.  Great lighthouses 
in Oregon.  Seems like each one has a unique story.  

Amtrak may be your best bet, esp now that they have roll on / roll off 
service but be sure to make a bike reservation.  Another thought would be 
to post here for anyone headed to Portland who can offer a ride.  I did 
that one time when Amtrak fell thru & it worked.  It was Seattle to 
Anacortes, a much shorter distance, but list members can be really 
helpful.  

dougP

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your 
> experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially 
> if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What 
> routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? 
> Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?
>
> I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought *Bicycling The Pacific Coast* 
> by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any 
> particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't 
> go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card 
> touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, 
> sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind 
> schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.
>
> I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a 
> S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, 
> today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route 
> won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do 
> vacation things.
>
> Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I 
> get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL
>

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