[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
Hello, I couldn't find the info about the 7 speed cassette ...Does anyone know if it's an imminent release or many months off? thanks On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 12:13:48 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote: > > In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is > nothing there. > I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did > anyone read about it? > It looks like a great option, > Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. > > Thank you > Ray > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f0fb255e-f8a7-43de-9e26-4863de8c78e1n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
I think there are a number of useful possibilities as a 2x and it has me looking at some chainrings I already have but would not otherwise use. Ray On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:11:14 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote: > When you think about a 2x, something like a 34-46 double with that 13-42 > cassette has a pretty decent range & the front should shift just fine. > H. > > dougP > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > >> Thank you Garth, >> So if my rear derailer wraps 40 teeth, I could run this cassette and a 10 >> (maybe12) tooth difference in my front chainrings. >> >> I’ll definitely stay tuned for its appearance. >> >> Ray >> >> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:54:50 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote: >> >>> Ray, What isn't included in the story is the use of a rear derailleur >>> hanger extender. It's been mentioned in bits and pieces within their >>> various media. There's many brands but what they all do is essentially >>> lower the rear derailleur hanger which allows the RD to clear much larger >>> cogs than otherwise, and without maxing out the B screw.. Note though that >>> while it allows for cog clearance, it doesn't change the total teeth >>> capacity of the given RD. Most of the mfr's of the extenders say it's for >>> 10sp. 1x setups, but it will lwork for 2x 9sp or less as long as you work >>> with the given capacity of the RD. Riv appears to offer the Sunrace >>> version, but it uses an aluminum bolt. I'd prefer the stainless steel bolt >>> the Wolf Roadlink and Wheels Mfr. offer. Here's just one type >>> https://wheelsmfg.com/extended-hanger.html >>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote: >>> I don’t have anything that will work with a 42 tooth rear but a 2x configuration definitely has my attention. Ray On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 5:34:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) > which should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and > normal > matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I > don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything > other than friction shifters. > > Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer >> Grant is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work >> with >> the 42t cog I say give it a whirl! >> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: >> >>> Thanks Joe, >>> ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you >>> may be just as likely to run one as I will. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Ray >>> >>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >>> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, too). Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but an 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters with one click locked out. The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls them back for edits. Joe Bernard On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > > In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but > there is nothing there. > I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, > did anyone read about it? > It looks like a great option, > Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. > > Thank you > Ray > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/dcd45114-c6b6-4554-b269-39699aa1b567n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
When you think about a 2x, something like a 34-46 double with that 13-42 cassette has a pretty decent range & the front should shift just fine. H. dougP On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > Thank you Garth, > So if my rear derailer wraps 40 teeth, I could run this cassette and a 10 > (maybe12) tooth difference in my front chainrings. > > I’ll definitely stay tuned for its appearance. > > Ray > > On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:54:50 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote: > >> Ray, What isn't included in the story is the use of a rear derailleur >> hanger extender. It's been mentioned in bits and pieces within their >> various media. There's many brands but what they all do is essentially >> lower the rear derailleur hanger which allows the RD to clear much larger >> cogs than otherwise, and without maxing out the B screw.. Note though that >> while it allows for cog clearance, it doesn't change the total teeth >> capacity of the given RD. Most of the mfr's of the extenders say it's for >> 10sp. 1x setups, but it will lwork for 2x 9sp or less as long as you work >> with the given capacity of the RD. Riv appears to offer the Sunrace >> version, but it uses an aluminum bolt. I'd prefer the stainless steel bolt >> the Wolf Roadlink and Wheels Mfr. offer. Here's just one type >> https://wheelsmfg.com/extended-hanger.html >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote: >> >>> I don’t have anything that will work with a 42 tooth rear but a 2x >>> configuration definitely has my attention. >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 5:34:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >>> The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) which should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and normal matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything other than friction shifters. Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer > Grant is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work > with > the 42t cog I say give it a whirl! > > > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > >> Thanks Joe, >> ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you >> may be just as likely to run one as I will. >> >> Cheers >> Ray >> >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will >>> provide (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs >>> offer, too). Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own >>> 7-speed >>> chain but an 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing >>> compatibility >>> was mentioned but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano >>> 8-speed >>> shifters with one click locked out. >>> >>> The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant >>> pulls them back for edits. >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: >>> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is nothing there. I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did anyone read about it? It looks like a great option, Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. Thank you Ray >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7b803d7f-50cd-4834-b16f-616edb5c07a5n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
Thank you Garth, So if my rear derailer wraps 40 teeth, I could run this cassette and a 10 (maybe12) tooth difference in my front chainrings. I’ll definitely stay tuned for its appearance. Ray On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:54:50 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote: > Ray, What isn't included in the story is the use of a rear derailleur > hanger extender. It's been mentioned in bits and pieces within their > various media. There's many brands but what they all do is essentially > lower the rear derailleur hanger which allows the RD to clear much larger > cogs than otherwise, and without maxing out the B screw.. Note though that > while it allows for cog clearance, it doesn't change the total teeth > capacity of the given RD. Most of the mfr's of the extenders say it's for > 10sp. 1x setups, but it will lwork for 2x 9sp or less as long as you work > with the given capacity of the RD. Riv appears to offer the Sunrace > version, but it uses an aluminum bolt. I'd prefer the stainless steel bolt > the Wolf Roadlink and Wheels Mfr. offer. Here's just one type > https://wheelsmfg.com/extended-hanger.html > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote: > >> I don’t have anything that will work with a 42 tooth rear but a 2x >> configuration definitely has my attention. >> >> Ray >> >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 5:34:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) which >>> should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and normal >>> matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I >>> don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything >>> other than friction shifters. >>> >>> Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard >>> >>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >>> It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer Grant is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work with the 42t cog I say give it a whirl! On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > Thanks Joe, > ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may > be just as likely to run one as I will. > > Cheers > Ray > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide >> (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, >> too). >> Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but >> an >> 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was >> mentioned >> but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters >> with >> one click locked out. >> >> The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant >> pulls them back for edits. >> >> Joe Bernard >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: >> >>> >>> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there >>> is nothing there. >>> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did >>> anyone read about it? >>> It looks like a great option, >>> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Ray >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8a38-2d1d-4fd5-8a26-51e26593cbb7n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
Ray, What isn't included in the story is the use of a rear derailleur hanger extender. It's been mentioned in bits and pieces within their various media. There's many brands but what they all do is essentially lower the rear derailleur hanger which allows the RD to clear much larger cogs than otherwise, and without maxing out the B screw.. Note though that while it allows for cog clearance, it doesn't change the total teeth capacity of the given RD. Most of the mfr's of the extenders say it's for 10sp. 1x setups, but it will lwork for 2x 9sp or less as long as you work with the given capacity of the RD. Riv appears to offer the Sunrace version, but it uses an aluminum bolt. I'd prefer the stainless steel bolt the Wolf Roadlink and Wheels Mfr. offer. Here's just one type https://wheelsmfg.com/extended-hanger.html On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote: > I don’t have anything that will work with a 42 tooth rear but a 2x > configuration definitely has my attention. > > Ray > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 5:34:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) which >> should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and normal >> matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I >> don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything >> other than friction shifters. >> >> Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard >> >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer Grant >>> is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work with the >>> 42t cog I say give it a whirl! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: >>> Thanks Joe, ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may be just as likely to run one as I will. Cheers Ray On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide > (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, > too). > Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but > an > 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned > but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters > with > one click locked out. > > The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls > them back for edits. > > Joe Bernard > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > >> >> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there >> is nothing there. >> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did >> anyone read about it? >> It looks like a great option, >> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. >> >> Thank you >> Ray >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e36f7cc4-3109-482a-a088-f3f7767ba29an%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
I don’t have anything that will work with a 42 tooth rear but a 2x configuration definitely has my attention. Ray On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 5:34:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) which > should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and normal > matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I > don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything > other than friction shifters. > > Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer Grant >> is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work with the >> 42t cog I say give it a whirl! >> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: >> >>> Thanks Joe, >>> ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may >>> be just as likely to run one as I will. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Ray >>> >>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >>> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, too). Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but an 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters with one click locked out. The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls them back for edits. Joe Bernard On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > > In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is > nothing there. > I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did > anyone read about it? > It looks like a great option, > Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. > > Thank you > Ray > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6a097964-3bc9-473d-a30f-81475725811bn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) which should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and normal matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything other than friction shifters. Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer Grant > is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work with the > 42t cog I say give it a whirl! > > > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > >> Thanks Joe, >> ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may be >> just as likely to run one as I will. >> >> Cheers >> Ray >> >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide >>> (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, too). >>> Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but an >>> 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned >>> but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters with >>> one click locked out. >>> >>> The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls >>> them back for edits. >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: >>> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is nothing there. I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did anyone read about it? It looks like a great option, Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. Thank you Ray >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/30e64189-e96a-447f-a52c-8b39f90ff720n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer Grant is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work with the 42t cog I say give it a whirl! On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > Thanks Joe, > ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may be > just as likely to run one as I will. > > Cheers > Ray > > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide >> (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, too). >> Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but an >> 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned >> but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters with >> one click locked out. >> >> The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls >> them back for edits. >> >> Joe Bernard >> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: >> >>> >>> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is >>> nothing there. >>> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did >>> anyone read about it? >>> It looks like a great option, >>> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Ray >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2e0f6e17-ca0c-4752-ac65-5155b8607073n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
Thanks Joe, ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may be just as likely to run one as I will. Cheers Ray On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide (you > would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, too). > Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but an > 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned > but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters with > one click locked out. > > The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls > them back for edits. > > Joe Bernard > On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > >> >> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is >> nothing there. >> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did >> anyone read about it? >> It looks like a great option, >> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. >> >> Thank you >> Ray >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/20505a20-a143-4b6f-856b-d444f2af2809n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh
13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, too). Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but an 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters with one click locked out. The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls them back for edits. Joe Bernard On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > > In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is > nothing there. > I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did > anyone read about it? > It looks like a great option, > Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. > > Thank you > Ray > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/99883923-b631-4c18-8323-14c9cdf25c4fn%40googlegroups.com.
