[RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[ascpgh]

Mine is still 8-speed, although purely friction, bar ends (switched from 
Shimano to SunTour) with Shimano XT Hubs13-32 cassette, TA Zephyr crank 
with 46/34 rings, SKF BB and Mavic front and rear derailleurs. 

My Honjo H-47 fenders and Paul Racer brake calipers have been my updates. I 
consider wheels to be consumables after after so many years/miles.  There's 
also the pesky rear dropout replacements and the seat stay bridge that had 
to be rebrazed. Not been a commuter, although I did ride it to work a few 
weeks last summer, but ridden through lots of conditions. When I have a 
plan in place for a big ride I don't let weather deter unless it's just 
plain foolish. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 10:02:32 AM UTC-4 erics...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> That’s a nice looking upgrade.  Once I quit commuting on it the fenders 
> came off, and they’re not missed. 
>
> I’ve only replaced the drivetrain on mine. At times I miss the original 9 
> speed XTR derailleurs and cranks, and bar-end shifters. The newer 
> Ultegra/DA is 10 speed brifter set up is fancy though. I just can’t justify 
> the crazy money for a set of the old XTR cranks. 
> On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 4:45:06 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Here's how I eliminated all of the pesky rattles and clicks that those 
>> OEM "long" reach Shimano calipers produced with fenders and 32mm tires on 
>> my 2002 Rambouillet:
>> [image: 20160619_164026.jpg]
>> I suspect I'm 5+ mm clear of the tire and at least 1mm of fender and 
>> bracket at the bridge. Bare 38mm should fit. 
>>
>> I really need the fenders so the Paul Racers were an even better answer 
>> than they looked i concept. Highly recommend. Tires come out, go in fully 
>> inflated.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> PIttsburgh
>>
>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 11:22:52 AM UTC-4 erics...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always worn 
>>> Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders in over 
>>> a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 700x37 WTB 
>>> All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter road tires 
>>> on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the various Panaracer 
>>> makes?
>>>
>>>
>>> FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other 
>>> bikes over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Eric 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[Eric St. Mary]

That’s a nice looking upgrade.  Once I quit commuting on it the fenders 
came off, and they’re not missed. 

I’ve only replaced the drivetrain on mine. At times I miss the original 9 
speed XTR derailleurs and cranks, and bar-end shifters. The newer 
Ultegra/DA is 10 speed brifter set up is fancy though. I just can’t justify 
the crazy money for a set of the old XTR cranks. 
On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 4:45:06 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Here's how I eliminated all of the pesky rattles and clicks that those OEM 
> "long" reach Shimano calipers produced with fenders and 32mm tires on my 
> 2002 Rambouillet:
> [image: 20160619_164026.jpg]
> I suspect I'm 5+ mm clear of the tire and at least 1mm of fender and 
> bracket at the bridge. Bare 38mm should fit. 
>
> I really need the fenders so the Paul Racers were an even better answer 
> than they looked i concept. Highly recommend. Tires come out, go in fully 
> inflated.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> PIttsburgh
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 11:22:52 AM UTC-4 erics...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always worn 
>> Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders in over 
>> a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 700x37 WTB 
>> All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter road tires 
>> on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the various Panaracer 
>> makes?
>>
>>
>> FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other bikes 
>> over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty. 
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Eric 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[Eric St. Mary]

Thank you all for the helpful input. Sounds like I’ll be shopping for some 
38s. I’m looking forward to seeing how it feels with some fatter tires. 

It has the Shimano long reach brakes Riv sold back then.  I had to deflate 
it he Roly Polys since day 1, even with the brake release, to remove the 
wheels. They do have a ton of clearance otherwise. 

On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 3:55:20 PM UTC-4 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I can run 38s, and I am running 35s with fenders, but had help to make it 
> fit. 33s were no problem with fenders.  I have an orange Ram.
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 12:08:44 PM UTC-7 Kieran J wrote:
>
>> I also had an orange Ram and the max tire clearance under Tektro R539 
>> brakes was about 37mm. Slightly less vertical clearance in the back versus 
>> the front. 
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 9:40:42 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> On my blue Ram, 32s (Kojak 1.35s which may have measured 31mm on Open 
>>> Pros) fit under SKS fenders with some squeezing at seatstay bridge, but 
>>> acceptable. I think that fenders take up about 5mm of tire size but I'd 
>>> guess that 37-38 might be the max.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 9:50 AM George Schick  wrote:
>>>
 It's not exactly clear whether you want to run the fatter tires with or 
 without fenders.  FWIW, I have a Ram of the same exact time period as 
 yours 
 and I'm running 32mm Panaracers with fenders.  I'd prefer to run 35's, but 
 there's no way they'd fit under the fenders.  Without fenders I'm guessing 
 that you could go up to 37/38's, but it might be tight.  That frame was 
 built with side-pulls as the intended brake, therefore the brake bridge on 
 the rear is a little further down than other models.  And I agree, of all 
 the bikes I've owned over the past 45+ years of "serious" cycling the Ram 
 is the best riding of the bunch.  Wish I would have had it all along.


 On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-5 erics...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always 
> worn Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders 
> in 
> over a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 
> 700x37 WTB All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter 
> road tires on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the 
> various 
> Panaracer makes?
>
>
> FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other 
> bikes over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty. 
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[Jonathan D.]

I can run 38s, and I am running 35s with fenders, but had help to make it 
fit. 33s were no problem with fenders.  I have an orange Ram.

On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 12:08:44 PM UTC-7 Kieran J wrote:

> I also had an orange Ram and the max tire clearance under Tektro R539 
> brakes was about 37mm. Slightly less vertical clearance in the back versus 
> the front. 
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 9:40:42 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> On my blue Ram, 32s (Kojak 1.35s which may have measured 31mm on Open 
>> Pros) fit under SKS fenders with some squeezing at seatstay bridge, but 
>> acceptable. I think that fenders take up about 5mm of tire size but I'd 
>> guess that 37-38 might be the max.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 9:50 AM George Schick  wrote:
>>
>>> It's not exactly clear whether you want to run the fatter tires with or 
>>> without fenders.  FWIW, I have a Ram of the same exact time period as yours 
>>> and I'm running 32mm Panaracers with fenders.  I'd prefer to run 35's, but 
>>> there's no way they'd fit under the fenders.  Without fenders I'm guessing 
>>> that you could go up to 37/38's, but it might be tight.  That frame was 
>>> built with side-pulls as the intended brake, therefore the brake bridge on 
>>> the rear is a little further down than other models.  And I agree, of all 
>>> the bikes I've owned over the past 45+ years of "serious" cycling the Ram 
>>> is the best riding of the bunch.  Wish I would have had it all along.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-5 erics...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always worn 
 Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders in over 
 a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 700x37 
 WTB 
 All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter road tires 
 on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the various Panaracer 
 makes?


 FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other 
 bikes over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty. 


 Regards,

 Eric 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[Kieran J]

I also had an orange Ram and the max tire clearance under Tektro R539 
brakes was about 37mm. Slightly less vertical clearance in the back versus 
the front. 

KJ


On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 9:40:42 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> On my blue Ram, 32s (Kojak 1.35s which may have measured 31mm on Open 
> Pros) fit under SKS fenders with some squeezing at seatstay bridge, but 
> acceptable. I think that fenders take up about 5mm of tire size but I'd 
> guess that 37-38 might be the max.
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 9:50 AM George Schick  wrote:
>
>> It's not exactly clear whether you want to run the fatter tires with or 
>> without fenders.  FWIW, I have a Ram of the same exact time period as yours 
>> and I'm running 32mm Panaracers with fenders.  I'd prefer to run 35's, but 
>> there's no way they'd fit under the fenders.  Without fenders I'm guessing 
>> that you could go up to 37/38's, but it might be tight.  That frame was 
>> built with side-pulls as the intended brake, therefore the brake bridge on 
>> the rear is a little further down than other models.  And I agree, of all 
>> the bikes I've owned over the past 45+ years of "serious" cycling the Ram 
>> is the best riding of the bunch.  Wish I would have had it all along.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-5 erics...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always worn 
>>> Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders in over 
>>> a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 700x37 WTB 
>>> All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter road tires 
>>> on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the various Panaracer 
>>> makes?
>>>
>>>
>>> FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other 
>>> bikes over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Eric 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[Patrick Moore]

On my blue Ram, 32s (Kojak 1.35s which may have measured 31mm on Open Pros)
fit under SKS fenders with some squeezing at seatstay bridge, but
acceptable. I think that fenders take up about 5mm of tire size but I'd
guess that 37-38 might be the max.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 9:50 AM George Schick  wrote:

> It's not exactly clear whether you want to run the fatter tires with or
> without fenders.  FWIW, I have a Ram of the same exact time period as yours
> and I'm running 32mm Panaracers with fenders.  I'd prefer to run 35's, but
> there's no way they'd fit under the fenders.  Without fenders I'm guessing
> that you could go up to 37/38's, but it might be tight.  That frame was
> built with side-pulls as the intended brake, therefore the brake bridge on
> the rear is a little further down than other models.  And I agree, of all
> the bikes I've owned over the past 45+ years of "serious" cycling the Ram
> is the best riding of the bunch.  Wish I would have had it all along.
>
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-5 erics...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always worn
>> Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders in over
>> a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 700x37 WTB
>> All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter road tires
>> on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the various Panaracer
>> makes?
>>
>>
>> FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other bikes
>> over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Eric
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[Eric St. Mary]

Sorry for the confusion. I tossed the fenders in the trash long ago, and 
want to run “slick” tires.  
On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 11:50:08 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> It's not exactly clear whether you want to run the fatter tires with or 
> without fenders.  FWIW, I have a Ram of the same exact time period as yours 
> and I'm running 32mm Panaracers with fenders.  I'd prefer to run 35's, but 
> there's no way they'd fit under the fenders.  Without fenders I'm guessing 
> that you could go up to 37/38's, but it might be tight.  That frame was 
> built with side-pulls as the intended brake, therefore the brake bridge on 
> the rear is a little further down than other models.  And I agree, of all 
> the bikes I've owned over the past 45+ years of "serious" cycling the Ram 
> is the best riding of the bunch.  Wish I would have had it all along.
>
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-5 erics...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always worn 
>> Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders in over 
>> a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 700x37 WTB 
>> All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter road tires 
>> on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the various Panaracer 
>> makes?
>>
>>
>> FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other bikes 
>> over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty. 
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Eric 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[George Schick]

It's not exactly clear whether you want to run the fatter tires with or 
without fenders.  FWIW, I have a Ram of the same exact time period as yours 
and I'm running 32mm Panaracers with fenders.  I'd prefer to run 35's, but 
there's no way they'd fit under the fenders.  Without fenders I'm guessing 
that you could go up to 37/38's, but it might be tight.  That frame was 
built with side-pulls as the intended brake, therefore the brake bridge on 
the rear is a little further down than other models.  And I agree, of all 
the bikes I've owned over the past 45+ years of "serious" cycling the Ram 
is the best riding of the bunch.  Wish I would have had it all along.


On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-5 erics...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always worn 
> Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders in over 
> a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 700x37 WTB 
> All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter road tires 
> on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the various Panaracer 
> makes?
>
>
> FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other bikes 
> over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty. 
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric 
>

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