[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Scott Calhoun]

Bill,

I'm impressed with the Ruta Loca route: 13k of climbing over 125miles--it 
is like the Eroica California Heroic route with an extra 4k of climbing. 
Also, I really enjoyed your recap, the video, and especially the 
soundtrack. La Ruta Loca is now officially on my list. Thanks for sharing.

Scott 

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 12:19:55 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Bill Lindsay]

Bruce correctly pointed out that I’m running Rock and Roads. They are great 
great tires in my opinion. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Bill Lindsay]

Paul asked where I read that Tour de France riders drank coke and OJ in the 
early 1980s. 

It was probably in Bicycling magazine or maybe Winning. I read both of those in 
those years. It might have been in a Sean Kelly bio, because I remember reading 
about the coke-can practical joke he would play. They’d get their musette at 
the feed zone, which always included a can of coke. He’d dump the van of coke 
into his water bottle and then reach down and drag the empty van on the ground. 
The sound was exactly like the sound of a pedal going into somebody’s spokes so 
it would scare the bejeezus out of the peloton. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[br...@bgcycles.com]

Please note that the ride was done on Bruce Gordon Rock ’n Road tires - they 
are available at https://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com 

Regards,
Bruce Gordon


> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:33:08 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Last Fall I did the Marin Mountains 200k and speculated that it might be the 
> hardest 200k brevet the RUSA catalog.  Yesterday, San Francisco Randonneurs 
> hosted La Ruta Loca, and the route owner Carlos (#4841) is pretty certain 
> this course is harder. It was definitely a monster. "The Crazy Route" was 
> crazy hard, and crazy fun. The main stats are: 125.3 miles, ~50 miles of 
> dirt, and 13,051ft of climbing. Here's my Ride with gps data:  
> https://ridewithgps.com/trips/24131333 
> 
> 
> 
> The weather report called for ideal temperatures, low 50s in the early 
> morning, slight general overcast and not many spots even approaching 75 
> degrees.  According to Rob Hawks, 25 riders gathered in the dense fog at 
> Crissy Field East Beach.  The pavement was very wet, like after a hard rain. 
> It was only fog, and there were times during the ride where I wished the fog 
> would come back. The only threatening part of the weather report called for 
> strong winds from the Northwest. I went with El Cerrito High School racing 
> kit, along with matching arm warmers, a reflective vest and that's all. I was 
> chilly to start but it worked out perfectly. The armwarmers didn't come off 
> until I was back in my van after the finish.
>  
> 
> I was trying to travel light as I wasn't bringing a lot of bag-space on my 
> Black Mountain Monster Cross. The bike's nickname alternates between Green 
> Meanie and Mean Greenie. I ran a 2x10 drivetrain, 42/26 in front, 11-36 in 
> back. My 700x43 Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads were about 'average' for the 
> tires I saw people running. Some of the bikes present were classic 
> rando-machines with Hetres or similar. Some were fully contemporary 'all 
> road' bikes with 27.5" Thunder Burts.  I only saw one flat bar mountain bike, 
> but now that I've done the route, I wouldn't hesitate to bring a light XC 
> mountain bike. At about 5:50AM we gathered for a pre-ride chat, and the 
> solemn SFR oath promising "not to do stupid stuff". At 6AM sharp we were off 
> towards the Golden Gate Bridge heading North into Marin County.
> 
> 
> 
> Unlike most other SFR routes, we didn't have to meander all willy nilly 
> through Sausalito, Mill Valley, Ross and the other southern Marin towns. 
> Instead we got right off the bridge and headed straight up into the Marin 
> headlands and got off-road immediately. The ride ended up being three 
> distinct sections. Section 1 was an epic 50 mile mountain bike ride, 
> punctuated with just a few paved connectors. Section 2 would be a basically 
> flat road ride punctuated by a few gravel stretches. Section 3 would be 
> another 30 mile mountain bike ride up and over Mount Tam. The first big dirt 
> climb was Miwok Trail, which started to sort people out, especially on the 
> descent of Old Springs. There was a broad array of offroad descending skills 
> on display. Some would bomb the descents 'full-send', while others were quite 
> timid. I landed somewhere in the middle. Throughout the day, I would notice 
> tight corners on a soft trail where a skid mark went straight when the trail 
> curved. The clear indication was that this was caused by a rider who brought 
> too much speed and not enough tire into that corner. The clear message was 
> that there was not going to be much long-term grouping up of riders. It's 
> hard to match skills exactly, and since this course was going to be hard to 
> finish within the 13:30 limit, waiting around was not a smart option. I 
> briefly latched on to a strong group up the steep technical Deer Park climb, 
> led out by Paul on a cyclocross race bike. I let them pace me up the climb, 
> but gathered pretty quickly that this would be the lead group, and I would 
> let them go after a while to 'do my own ride' and conserve my energy. I could 
> tell Paul was serious when he indicated he saved weight by only filling one 
> full water bottle at the start because he planned to stop for water at the 
> Pan Toll Ranger Station at the top of Deer Park. While he did that, I had 
> plenty and went ahead. He passed me shortly after that on the road climb to 
> the tippy top of Mount Tam and I wouldn't see him again. That long climb 
> included some paved riding up Pan Toll and Ridgecrest, but quickly got onto 
> the Lagunitas-RockSprings trail and hit the highest elevation of the day, 
> about 2200 feet. It felt good to be done with the longest steady individual 
> climb and to be at the high point of the route at mile 23. It was just a 
> down-hill century

[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Paul Richardson]

Really enjoyed reading this.  Thanks for posting.  Off to the store now for 
orangina and coke!  Just curious--do you remember where you read that?  
What a recipe!

paul
baltimore md

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:33:08 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Last Fall I did the Marin Mountains 200k and speculated that it might be 
> the hardest 200k brevet the RUSA catalog.  Yesterday, San Francisco 
> Randonneurs hosted La Ruta Loca, and the route owner Carlos (#4841) is 
> pretty certain this course is harder. It was definitely a monster. "The 
> Crazy Route" was crazy hard, and crazy fun. The main stats are: 125.3 
> miles, ~50 miles of dirt, and 13,051ft of climbing. Here's my Ride with gps 
> data:  https://ridewithgps.com/trips/24131333
>
>
> The weather report called for ideal temperatures, low 50s in the early 
> morning, slight general overcast and not many spots even approaching 75 
> degrees.  According to Rob Hawks, 25 riders gathered in the dense fog at 
> Crissy Field East Beach.  The pavement was very wet, like after a hard 
> rain. It was only fog, and there were times during the ride where I wished 
> the fog would come back. The only threatening part of the weather report 
> called for strong winds from the Northwest. I went with El Cerrito High 
> School racing kit, along with matching arm warmers, a reflective vest and 
> that's all. I was chilly to start but it worked out perfectly. The 
> armwarmers didn't come off until I was back in my van after the finish.
>
>
> 
>
> I was trying to travel light as I wasn't bringing a lot of bag-space on my 
> Black Mountain Monster Cross. The bike's nickname alternates between Green 
> Meanie and Mean Greenie. I ran a 2x10 drivetrain, 42/26 in front, 11-36 in 
> back. My 700x43 Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads were about 'average' for the 
> tires I saw people running. Some of the bikes present were classic 
> rando-machines with Hetres or similar. Some were fully contemporary 'all 
> road' bikes with 27.5" Thunder Burts.  I only saw one flat bar mountain 
> bike, but now that I've done the route, I wouldn't hesitate to bring a 
> light XC mountain bike. At about 5:50AM we gathered for a pre-ride chat, 
> and the solemn SFR oath promising "not to do stupid stuff". At 6AM sharp we 
> were off towards the Golden Gate Bridge heading North into Marin County.
>
>
> Unlike most other SFR routes, we didn't have to meander all willy nilly 
> through Sausalito, Mill Valley, Ross and the other southern Marin towns. 
> Instead we got right off the bridge and headed straight up into the Marin 
> headlands and got off-road immediately. The ride ended up being three 
> distinct sections. Section 1 was an epic 50 mile mountain bike ride, 
> punctuated with just a few paved connectors. Section 2 would be a basically 
> flat road ride punctuated by a few gravel stretches. Section 3 would be 
> another 30 mile mountain bike ride up and over Mount Tam. The first big 
> dirt climb was Miwok Trail, which started to sort people out, especially on 
> the descent of Old Springs. There was a broad array of offroad descending 
> skills on display. Some would bomb the descents 'full-send', while others 
> were quite timid. I landed somewhere in the middle. Throughout the day, I 
> would notice tight corners on a soft trail where a skid mark went straight 
> when the trail curved. The clear indication was that this was caused by a 
> rider who brought too much speed and not enough tire into that corner. The 
> clear message was that there was not going to be much long-term grouping up 
> of riders. It's hard to match skills exactly, and since this course was 
> going to be hard to finish within the 13:30 limit, waiting around was not a 
> smart option. I briefly latched on to a strong group up the steep technical 
> Deer Park climb, led out by Paul on a cyclocross race bike. I let them pace 
> me up the climb, but gathered pretty quickly that this would be the lead 
> group, and I would let them go after a while to 'do my own ride' and 
> conserve my energy. I could tell Paul was serious when he indicated he 
> saved weight by only filling one full water bottle at the start because he 
> planned to stop for water at the Pan Toll Ranger Station at the top of Deer 
> Park. While he did that, I had plenty and went ahead. He passed me shortly 
> after that on the road climb to the tippy top of Mount Tam and I wouldn't 
> see him again. That long climb included some paved riding up Pan Toll and 
> Ridgecrest, but quickly got onto the Lagunitas-RockSprings trail and hit 
> the highest elevation of the day, about 2200 feet. It felt good to be done 
> with the longest steady individual climb and to be at the high point of the 
> route at mile 23. It was just a down-hill century remaining, right?  
> RIGHT?  
>
>
> The Lagunitas-Rock Springs descent is ste

[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[RichS]

Most fun I've had today:-)  Thank you for your inspiring report, video and 
music!

Best,
Richard

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 5:36:55 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> That's an impressive ride. I may try cutting that into four separate 
> weekend rides. 
> Great write-up!
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 9:33:08 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Last Fall I did the Marin Mountains 200k and speculated that it might be 
>> the hardest 200k brevet the RUSA catalog.  Yesterday, San Francisco 
>> Randonneurs hosted La Ruta Loca, and the route owner Carlos (#4841) is 
>> pretty certain this course is harder. It was definitely a monster. "The 
>> Crazy Route" was crazy hard, and crazy fun. The main stats are: 125.3 
>> miles, ~50 miles of dirt, and 13,051ft of climbing. Here's my Ride with gps 
>> data:  https://ridewithgps.com/trips/24131333
>>
>>
>> The weather report called for ideal temperatures, low 50s in the early 
>> morning, slight general overcast and not many spots even approaching 75 
>> degrees.  According to Rob Hawks, 25 riders gathered in the dense fog at 
>> Crissy Field East Beach.  The pavement was very wet, like after a hard 
>> rain. It was only fog, and there were times during the ride where I wished 
>> the fog would come back. The only threatening part of the weather report 
>> called for strong winds from the Northwest. I went with El Cerrito High 
>> School racing kit, along with matching arm warmers, a reflective vest and 
>> that's all. I was chilly to start but it worked out perfectly. The 
>> armwarmers didn't come off until I was back in my van after the finish.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> I was trying to travel light as I wasn't bringing a lot of bag-space on 
>> my Black Mountain Monster Cross. The bike's nickname alternates between 
>> Green Meanie and Mean Greenie. I ran a 2x10 drivetrain, 42/26 in front, 
>> 11-36 in back. My 700x43 Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads were about 'average' 
>> for the tires I saw people running. Some of the bikes present were classic 
>> rando-machines with Hetres or similar. Some were fully contemporary 'all 
>> road' bikes with 27.5" Thunder Burts.  I only saw one flat bar mountain 
>> bike, but now that I've done the route, I wouldn't hesitate to bring a 
>> light XC mountain bike. At about 5:50AM we gathered for a pre-ride chat, 
>> and the solemn SFR oath promising "not to do stupid stuff". At 6AM sharp we 
>> were off towards the Golden Gate Bridge heading North into Marin County.
>>
>>
>> Unlike most other SFR routes, we didn't have to meander all willy nilly 
>> through Sausalito, Mill Valley, Ross and the other southern Marin towns. 
>> Instead we got right off the bridge and headed straight up into the Marin 
>> headlands and got off-road immediately. The ride ended up being three 
>> distinct sections. Section 1 was an epic 50 mile mountain bike ride, 
>> punctuated with just a few paved connectors. Section 2 would be a basically 
>> flat road ride punctuated by a few gravel stretches. Section 3 would be 
>> another 30 mile mountain bike ride up and over Mount Tam. The first big 
>> dirt climb was Miwok Trail, which started to sort people out, especially on 
>> the descent of Old Springs. There was a broad array of offroad descending 
>> skills on display. Some would bomb the descents 'full-send', while others 
>> were quite timid. I landed somewhere in the middle. Throughout the day, I 
>> would notice tight corners on a soft trail where a skid mark went straight 
>> when the trail curved. The clear indication was that this was caused by a 
>> rider who brought too much speed and not enough tire into that corner. The 
>> clear message was that there was not going to be much long-term grouping up 
>> of riders. It's hard to match skills exactly, and since this course was 
>> going to be hard to finish within the 13:30 limit, waiting around was not a 
>> smart option. I briefly latched on to a strong group up the steep technical 
>> Deer Park climb, led out by Paul on a cyclocross race bike. I let them pace 
>> me up the climb, but gathered pretty quickly that this would be the lead 
>> group, and I would let them go after a while to 'do my own ride' and 
>> conserve my energy. I could tell Paul was serious when he indicated he 
>> saved weight by only filling one full water bottle at the start because he 
>> planned to stop for water at the Pan Toll Ranger Station at the top of Deer 
>> Park. While he did that, I had plenty and went ahead. He passed me shortly 
>> after that on the road climb to the tippy top of Mount Tam and I wouldn't 
>> see him again. That long climb included some paved riding up Pan Toll and 
>> Ridgecrest, but quickly got onto the Lagunitas-RockSprings trail and hit 
>> the highest elevation of the day, about 2200 feet. It felt good to be done 
>> with the l

[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Philip Williamson]

That's an impressive ride. I may try cutting that into four separate 
weekend rides. 
Great write-up!

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 9:33:08 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Last Fall I did the Marin Mountains 200k and speculated that it might be 
> the hardest 200k brevet the RUSA catalog.  Yesterday, San Francisco 
> Randonneurs hosted La Ruta Loca, and the route owner Carlos (#4841) is 
> pretty certain this course is harder. It was definitely a monster. "The 
> Crazy Route" was crazy hard, and crazy fun. The main stats are: 125.3 
> miles, ~50 miles of dirt, and 13,051ft of climbing. Here's my Ride with gps 
> data:  https://ridewithgps.com/trips/24131333
>
>
> The weather report called for ideal temperatures, low 50s in the early 
> morning, slight general overcast and not many spots even approaching 75 
> degrees.  According to Rob Hawks, 25 riders gathered in the dense fog at 
> Crissy Field East Beach.  The pavement was very wet, like after a hard 
> rain. It was only fog, and there were times during the ride where I wished 
> the fog would come back. The only threatening part of the weather report 
> called for strong winds from the Northwest. I went with El Cerrito High 
> School racing kit, along with matching arm warmers, a reflective vest and 
> that's all. I was chilly to start but it worked out perfectly. The 
> armwarmers didn't come off until I was back in my van after the finish.
>
>
> 
>
> I was trying to travel light as I wasn't bringing a lot of bag-space on my 
> Black Mountain Monster Cross. The bike's nickname alternates between Green 
> Meanie and Mean Greenie. I ran a 2x10 drivetrain, 42/26 in front, 11-36 in 
> back. My 700x43 Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads were about 'average' for the 
> tires I saw people running. Some of the bikes present were classic 
> rando-machines with Hetres or similar. Some were fully contemporary 'all 
> road' bikes with 27.5" Thunder Burts.  I only saw one flat bar mountain 
> bike, but now that I've done the route, I wouldn't hesitate to bring a 
> light XC mountain bike. At about 5:50AM we gathered for a pre-ride chat, 
> and the solemn SFR oath promising "not to do stupid stuff". At 6AM sharp we 
> were off towards the Golden Gate Bridge heading North into Marin County.
>
>
> Unlike most other SFR routes, we didn't have to meander all willy nilly 
> through Sausalito, Mill Valley, Ross and the other southern Marin towns. 
> Instead we got right off the bridge and headed straight up into the Marin 
> headlands and got off-road immediately. The ride ended up being three 
> distinct sections. Section 1 was an epic 50 mile mountain bike ride, 
> punctuated with just a few paved connectors. Section 2 would be a basically 
> flat road ride punctuated by a few gravel stretches. Section 3 would be 
> another 30 mile mountain bike ride up and over Mount Tam. The first big 
> dirt climb was Miwok Trail, which started to sort people out, especially on 
> the descent of Old Springs. There was a broad array of offroad descending 
> skills on display. Some would bomb the descents 'full-send', while others 
> were quite timid. I landed somewhere in the middle. Throughout the day, I 
> would notice tight corners on a soft trail where a skid mark went straight 
> when the trail curved. The clear indication was that this was caused by a 
> rider who brought too much speed and not enough tire into that corner. The 
> clear message was that there was not going to be much long-term grouping up 
> of riders. It's hard to match skills exactly, and since this course was 
> going to be hard to finish within the 13:30 limit, waiting around was not a 
> smart option. I briefly latched on to a strong group up the steep technical 
> Deer Park climb, led out by Paul on a cyclocross race bike. I let them pace 
> me up the climb, but gathered pretty quickly that this would be the lead 
> group, and I would let them go after a while to 'do my own ride' and 
> conserve my energy. I could tell Paul was serious when he indicated he 
> saved weight by only filling one full water bottle at the start because he 
> planned to stop for water at the Pan Toll Ranger Station at the top of Deer 
> Park. While he did that, I had plenty and went ahead. He passed me shortly 
> after that on the road climb to the tippy top of Mount Tam and I wouldn't 
> see him again. That long climb included some paved riding up Pan Toll and 
> Ridgecrest, but quickly got onto the Lagunitas-RockSprings trail and hit 
> the highest elevation of the day, about 2200 feet. It felt good to be done 
> with the longest steady individual climb and to be at the high point of the 
> route at mile 23. It was just a down-hill century remaining, right?  
> RIGHT?  
>
>
> The Lagunitas-Rock Springs descent is steep and loose and dangerous. It's 
> not a descent you use to

[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Shoji Takahashi]

Thanks for the report and video, Bill!
Shoji
Arlington MA



On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:19:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Bill Lindsay]

My seat bag is made by Ely Rodriguez of Ruthworks.  

https://www.ruthworkssf.com/store/p79/Ultralight_Wedge.html

BL in EC

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 9:36:47 AM UTC-7, David Podboy wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the report! What is the rear bag that you are using?
>

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[David Podboy]

Thanks for the report! What is the rear bag that you are using?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Steven Sweedler]

Nice video Bill, quite a ride, a full day of fun.  Steve

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:19 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[WETH]

Multi-talented family.  Thanks for sharing the write-up and great video!

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:19:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Bill Lindsay]

Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.

 Youtube link 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Neil Doran]

Great read, and congrats on the ride. I’ve ridden every inch of that, but good 
Dog, not in the same day...

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic, Bill! A delight to read. Thank you.

“the solemn SFR oath promising "not to do stupid stuff." Well, I’m ruled out. 
It would seem taking the oath breaks the oath? Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

Bravo Bill! I felt tired from merely reading your account! Reminiscing 
about my college days when we tackled some of the 'Tam trails on La Ruta 
Loca 200k weekly (no rangers with radar back then), I can only imagine what 
an epic ride must have been! And yes, of course it's a downhill century 
from the top of Mt Tam. Thanks for the ride report!

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