[RBW] Re: Roadini on F1 Track ride report

That sounds like a total blast! I think it speaks well of an event when you can see riders of all styles, abilities, and ages coming together to have a good time. Love that Roadini. The Safety Pizza and snazzy bar tape complement it so well. On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 1:37:05 PM UTC-7

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Patrick, I humbly suggest that the Clem (and apparently Roadini) “liveliness & smoothness” you reference & that I can attest to is due to geometry rather than the tubing spec. As I am typing this I am recalling that Richard Sachs for a long time not only refused to use tubing stickers but did not

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Hi Jay- Lovin’ the build! Thanks for sharing your impressions. The orange paint with the green bar tape looks great. I just put 32mm Corsa Pros on my Waterford Homer. I’ve only ever ridden it on 38mm+ gravel tires so I’m super excited to feel what it’s like on a more road-oriented tire.

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Nice Roadini, lovely build, and I'm glad it has turned out so well for you. The Roadini certainly gets high praise from high-mileage riders. Roadini:Fargo:Cross Check: interesting observations. One might thing that with fat, low pressure tires the frame and fork won't materially affect ride

[RBW] Re: Roadini on F1 Track ride report

Tom: Thanks. It's this one: https://crustbikes.com/collections/grips-bartape/products/serfas-woven-bar-tape?variant=39334814679130 John: Thanks. The track is about 3.36 miles to do the full loop. mike On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 8:41:06 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote: > That's very cool,

[RBW] Re: Roadini on F1 Track ride report

That's very cool, Mike. The promo video really captures how much fun it must be to ride those 20 turns, and it looks like there are some good swimmin' holes in which to cool off! How long is the track? Thanks for sharing. Cheers, John On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 3:05:13 PM UTC-7 Tom M

[RBW] Re: Roadini on F1 Track ride report

Love the bar tape. Sounds like a good time. Tom in Alexandria, VA On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-4 mrg...@gmail.com wrote: > Howdy, > > We have a Formula 1 track in Austin called Circuit of the Americas and on > many Tuesdays they have a bike night. Last night was the first one

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Velo Orange also makes a 31.8 removable clamp quill stem that works pretty well, I have one of my AHH.. but I like your solution as well! https://velo-orange.com/collections/quill-stems/products/quill-stem-with-removable-faceplate-31-8mm?variant=52981508999 On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 4:13 PM Collin

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Jay, Looks awesome! The dark gold and celeste/seafoam bar tape is a combo I didn't think would look good, but I'm a fan! If you want a more svelte headset solution you can try one of these out: innicycle - Threadless Conversion Headset™ I used one on an old trek

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Any chance you can post a picture of the rear brake and the tire clearance (if any)? I've been experimenting with the Ass Saver Win Wing Gravel (found someone selling them on ebay for $10), and I have to say that it works surprisingly well. Easy-on Easy-off. Won't protect your BB bearings but

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Awesome build! The Sergio green is great. Curious to hear how you think it rides. I've got an All City Space Horse that while not spot on, is pretty close to the geo of a Roadini, that I absolutely love. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Love this build, and good info as I'm also 6'1 with an 89cm PBH. Hope you get tons of lovely miles out of this beaut! jared On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 7:28:29 PM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote: > Solid bike, Brent! So glad to see how nicely it turned out, especially > with that gorgeous silver

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

@Patrick - Leo is a bit more nimble and rigid to a comparably spec'd Sam. Sam seems a bit more flexy, especially with out of the seat climbing. Seems like the Sam is all over the place when it comes to steering--my Leo seems to track way better at low speeds. For context, I've had a million

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Solid bike, Brent! So glad to see how nicely it turned out, especially with that gorgeous silver drivetrain. I've got about 300ish miles on my Roadini now and I couldn't be happier. Oddly enough, I have been spending more time on my Hillborne because I don't want to feel guilty by leaving it

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

While I'm not concerned with the weight I'll land on after the build, I would like to keep up with my friend who I ride weekly with. He's good going my speed (he's naturally faster), and I'm hoping the speed on this bike isn't much lower than my current road bike. Like many say, it's the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Looks great. You have me questioning the Dark Gold I selected ;-) On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com wrote: > For the seat height inquiries: > > Both my bikes are currently 41” top of saddle to the ground. The Roadini > has less BB drop so top of saddle to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

For the seat height inquiries:Both my bikes are currently 41” top of saddle to the ground. The Roadini has less BB drop so top of saddle to crank bolt center is 31”, where the Sam is 31.5”. I may end up raising the saddle on the Roadini. Hard to compare a broken in B17 to C17 as well. I could

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Brenton, thanks for the post; nice looking bike. As weather allows, please let us know how this bike rides compared to your Sam (especially when it was in drop-bar mode). I'm sure I'm not the only Sam rider who is curious about this comparison. John On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:49:51 AM

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Very nice build! well thought out...nothing 'stuck on' or out of character for its mission... I am also trying to decide between 57 and 61, and would like to know the saddle height on your bike... On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote: > Nice! Curious what your

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

I haven't ridden it enough to decide if it was the perfect +1 yet, but it was a fun project. I will report back after some miles. It was great way to spend my time during 2 weeks of Portland snow+ice+wind. Did lots of research, and learned a ton more about components I was only mildly

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

It weighed 23 pounds with pump, water bottle cage, pedals but no toolkit: https://blog.piaw.net/2022/10/putting-together-my-roadini.html On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 5:32 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > Piaw: I'm curious, how light is your Roadini? > > More general question to the audience: How does the

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Such a fantastic build, Brenton! Is the bike giving you what you were looking for in your +1 from your country bike? On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 5:34:53 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks to all the advice and guidance from folks here on my second > Rivendell build! Turns out

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Such a clean build! That Sergio green is really growing on me too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Piaw: I'm curious, how light is your Roadini? More general question to the audience: How does the current Roadini differ from the original Sam Hillborne? I owned one of the latter and it would be interesting to use this Sam as a gauge for understanding the Roadini. Aside: I'm thinking (just

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

Nice! Curious what your saddle height is in the photos. I'm maybe about to pull the trigger and am on the fence between the 57 & 61. On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 4:34:53 PM UTC-6 brenton...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks to all the advice and guidance from folks here on my second > Rivendell

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

I went with 11s and a single DT shifter (I'm running 1x11) and I treat my Roadini as a gravel bike. It's great. Usually I climb on the road so shifting is not a problem, and descending who cares what gears you're in. But on the few occasions I did a a dirt climb and I'd just shift into the

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

I can see that.. Looking forward to the build! Chris On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:04:04 PM UTC-8 Jay wrote: > I hear you 'fourflys', I was undecided before going with the DT and the > RRSL levers. My Fargo has brifters and on the mixed-surface, often > technical trails I ride, it's

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

I hear you 'fourflys', I was undecided before going with the DT and the RRSL levers. My Fargo has brifters and on the mixed-surface, often technical trails I ride, it's very handy. My road bike has brifters. I decided I wanted to try something different, plus I like the idea of them being

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Just curious, if you are using 11sp, why not use integrated shifters/levers? To each their own for sure, but I can't imagine DT shifters on a mixed-surface trail unless it's really smooth.. heck, I don't even care for bar-ends on a trail.. but those RRL levers are super nice! I'm leaning hard

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Looking forward to updates! I just built a Roadini as well. On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8 Jay wrote: > First post here! I've been reading some of the threads and this sounds > like a good place...my new happy place ;-) > > I ordered the dark gold Roadini (57) from the only

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build - Mix of Modern and Retro

Looking forward to updates! I just built a Roadini myself. On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8 Jay wrote: > First post here! I've been reading some of the threads and this sounds > like a good place...my new happy place ;-) > > I ordered the dark gold Roadini (57) from the only

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

Hi Maggie, I sent you an email with some questions. Thanks! Chris On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 4:27:19 PM UTC-8 Maggie Zhou wrote: > I have contemplated selling my 50cm roadini that has a modern brifter > build (all Shimano 105). It's the first production batch circa 2017, so > only has

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

I have contemplated selling my 50cm roadini that has a modern brifter build (all Shimano 105). It's the first production batch circa 2017, so only has spacing for ~35s, and I've personally never succeeding at running larger than 28s with fenders + 105 mid reach brakes. It kinda sounds like this

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

Oh shoot, I didn't realize the Crust was 650b in smaller sizes. Velo Orange Rando frameset is the only other production road frame that comes to mind, but I haven't read/heard much about it's ride quality. The modular dropouts are a really neat

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

As I wrote earlier and it looks like Ron is going in this direction: " I'd like to see a Columbus Spirit tubed frameset just like the Malocchio with tigs, slanted top tube, threaded fork, and a nice powder coat at a reasonable price. Kinda like a BMW 2002 from the olden days." I'd want

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

A Riv may not be the bike for me this time.. I'm also considering a Litespeed Arenberg (the new one, seems like some good numbers) or maybe even splash out on a custom Fitz or Sycip here in Sonoma County.. On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 9:23:21 AM UTC-8 Chris Fly wrote: > the issue with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

the issue with the Crust for me is the three smallest sizes seem to be 650b and I don't really want a 650b bike.. plus the brake thing might bug me if I did want to run larger tires in the future.. thanks Eddie! On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 7:38:49 PM UTC-8 eddietheflay wrote: > I have the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

I have the same brakes front and rear and there is no issue with 35mm tires. The OP wants a quick road bike so he'd be fine too. On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 7:21:46 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote: > The big minus behind the crust is that they messed up the manufacturing so > it takes

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

The big minus behind the crust is that they messed up the manufacturing so it takes different brakes front and rear which is bizarre. Even more bizarre is that it requires smaller tires on the back than on the front. Unless you pay to have someone move the brake bridge (and then do the repaint)

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

Crust Malocchio. Real lugs, real lightweight tubing, decent clearance. Some things in its favor. Definitely not the looker that most Rivs are and without sloping top tube = good or not so? We could put some blocks on my pedals and you could try it. On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:05:49 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

The A Homer Hilsen comes with an 80mm drop, which could be one reason you like it over the Roadini. But the Hilsen probably won't fit in my travel bike box. On Fri, Jan 5, 2024, 17:54 Stephen Durfee wrote: > Chris - I got my Roadini just over a year ago, a complete bike purchased > from a CL

[RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

Chris - I got my Roadini just over a year ago, a complete bike purchased from a CL listing in South Carolina that I had shipped to Napa. I wanted a RIv so bad, and a "road bike" in particular, but was (perhaps like you), hoping to save a few bucks on a pre-owned model. I had previously visited

[RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

It's way more flexy/comfy than my Custom Ti bike, which friends already claim is flexy and comfy when they ride it (and which flexes like crazy when I attach a trailer to it). It's overbuilt for me @ 145 pounds. If I was 160 pounds I wouldn't consider it over built, and if I was 200 pounds I

[RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

I guess that's my concern is I'm not looking for a gravel bike.. I'm looking for a zippy (fast-ish) road bike that will take larger tires.. Also, one of my main concerns is the bike will be overbuilt, meaning the tubes will be heavy enough that it won't flex enough to be comfy.. Thoughts?

[RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

I have about 1300 miles on my Roadini: https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html. With 700x28mm tires it feels as fast as any bike I've ridden that's not built to be ultralight. I built mine up to be around 20 pounds with pedals, bottle cage and pump but no toolkit

[RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

Thanks Tony! I do have the Homer set up with drop bars, but since it was my Dad's, it's not exactly my perfect size and it's a 650b model (not sure if they all were) and I don't want to change much of the bike as it was my Dad's (he had Alt bars on it). Good to know you are enjoying your

[RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

Hi Chris, Thanks for sharing your story. I’m sorry to hear about your dad’s passing however I’m happy to hear that his bike is being put to good use. To answer your question, I’ll verify that the Leo is fast(ish), as you put it. I just bought one and have about 150 miles on it. Having run a

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 11:38:19 PM UTC-6 Tony Lockhart wrote: @Ted - Glad you'll be in town soon. Hoping you can carve out some time for a group ride. You mentioned that your daughter has a Riv, right? I have a Sam Hillborne in her garage. And a Space Horse (which could be for sale if

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

Apologies if flashing GIF is annoying; you can tell that both bikes are VERY similar in size. The Leo rides just as predictably as the Sam, with minimal differences. Out of the saddle climbs are more efficient on the Leo, and it's not as squirrely with steering as the Sam on slow rolls. The

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:21:42 PM UTC-6 Neale S. wrote:  from Glassell Park, hope to see you out there. Sounds like we need another L.A. Riv Ride soon. I will be in San Gabriel 2/11-2/17 and my West Coast Sam would enjoy meeting some relatives. Ted Durant Milwaukee WI USA -- You

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

 from Glassell Park, hope to see you out there. Sounds like we need another L.A. Riv Ride soon. On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote: > [image: IMG_2762.jpeg]Bike handles like a dream. Kinda of feel like I’ve > been riding it my entire life. It’s comfy,

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

Tony, that is a nice pairing of Rivs. Like yours my 2013 Sam Hillborne has been a flawless rider since day one. I suspect your Roadini will be a touch lighter and give you as much pleasure as your orange Sam. Happy trails! Best, Rich in ATL On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 12:43:00 PM UTC-5

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

Congrats, Tony! I'm just a few miles away in Glendale and have an orange Roadini from a previous batch. Know a fellow named Dean in Eagle Rock who has one from the new gold run, and it does look great. I'd have a hard time choosing between that and the green as well. Both are really nice

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

That would have been a tough call for me, too, both colors are awesome. Dark Gold it is! Congrats on your new Riv, looking forward to the build. On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 9:43:00 AM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote: > [image: IMG_2735.jpeg][image: IMG_2734.jpeg]Alright—now the fun starts! >

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

Last post for the intro...promise! SAM BUILD After purchasing parts last week, I set this bike up as a 2x8 flat bar build with Swift Industries bags and a Wald basket. This is will be for biking with family, getting in fitness rides, doing grocery shopping, coffee outside vibes, and running

[RBW] Re: Roadini Shifting Problems

Hi Cat, whereabouts new york are you? I'm in Brooklyn and would be down to help troubleshoot. I'm by no means a professional, but have done lots of futzing with my friction drivetrains and solving odd problems. -Stephen On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 4:16:42 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote: > Hi

[RBW] Re: Roadini Shifting Problems

Hi Cat, Sorry to hear about your frustrations. The last time this happened to me, I futzed with it for too long before giving up and replacing the cassette, chain rings, and chain all together. That solved it. Just for the record: you have replaced the cracked rim, yes? As for 1x, in my

[RBW] Re: Roadini Shifting Problems

It's clear to me that your bike needs to spend some time in the stand with a good mechanic -AND- with a good build-curator. It would be nice if both those people were the same person, but the skillsets are definitely distinct from one-another. A good mechanic can get the best out of what you

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

> I love the orange Roadinis and I really like your build. Some may not > agree, but there is something about a bike whose rider pushes it beyond its > design intent.Is that an Shimano Ultegra crank that's you've set up as > a 1x? Looks good, > > That is indeed an Ultegra SL triple crank

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

Piaw, thanks for the comments and pictures! Looks like you're having loads of fun. I would likely be running downtube shifters and a 2x with a long cage derailieur to get my low gears. You must be running, what, an 11x50? I'm sorry for the redundant question if it's listed on the website,

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

I love the orange Roadinis and I really like your build. Some may not agree, but there is something about a bike whose rider pushes it beyond its design intent.Is that an Shimano Ultegra crank that's you've set up as a 1x? Looks good, On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 8:35:17 PM UTC-4

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

Here are some pictures of my Roadini: https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/XO7eDWt_RaCyVFynaZsftA.vhwY43mas9VqIf5gM0Swqo The bike as pictured weighs 24 pounds. It was 21 pounds with no toolbag and lighter wheels and 30mm tires. It's possible to get lighter steel (or titanium) bikes, but then the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

Thanks for the review! As a daily drop-bar Sam rider, I'm well accustomed to the Rivendell ride. It's been a great bike for my uses: commuting, heavy loading. But, as a light (155# @ 6 foot tall), spinner, I wish for a bike that is lighter, less stiff, and more flexible to ride when I want to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

Max tire width according to Rivendell is 42mm. I don't like to push it that close, so I think in practice I won't run anything more than 38mm actual width. I have no TCO on the Roadini. The TCO exists on my custom touring bike, which has a geometry copied from the 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 with a

[RBW] Re: Roadini 1000 mile review

Piaw, Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide tires and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with and without fenders are? Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip overlap (TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on

[RBW] Re: Roadini ride quality

I looked up the BMC Cross geometry and it has a higher BB and with bigger tires would ride even taller, which would lead to the feeling of instability at speed. I've never understood why gravel bikes that aren't going to jump logs are designed with such high BBs. It seems to me that the bigger

[RBW] Re: Roadini ride quality

I have the 2020 Roadini in 54cm. I would describe the ride quality as "fabulous." By comparison, I also have a Black Mountain Cycles Monster Cross that I set up for randonneuring. In most situations, I would say the bikes are quite similar, even allowing for the fact that the BMC is shod in

[RBW] Re: Roadini ride quality

I got the same frame and it rides great. I think the BB could be 5mm lower, but I think you'll be hard pressed to find a production frame that's got a 80mm BB drop anyway. The bike handle greats on pavement and even better off pavement --- I've ridden it with 25mm tires, 30mm tires (which

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Oh yeah. I've never enjoyed either having fenders on the bike or installing them. One year while touring in Europe, I hit a bout of rain and went into a bike shop that sold these amazing clip-ons. They were so easy to install and remove and unlike traditional full fenders never make the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

I'm glad to hear the shop owner will make things right and I hope those polished Racers surface sometime soon. They are lovely looking brakes. But I wonder if the RH brakes would be an acceptable compromise? They do have the virtue of being available and if your current brakes are scratched,

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Piaw, the installation in question was the fenders, not the Racer brakes, which are not too arduous to install. The damaged brake was a casualty of the mechanic ostensibly fixing a poor fender installation. And yes, installing fenders had seemed challenging and overly time consuming for me —

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Here, here JJ! I agree completely. Having Mark do the build and set up my bikes is one of the main reasons I buy bikes from Rivendell. Mark raises wrenching on bikes to a very high form of art. Regards, Corwin On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 3:15:28 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote: > Believe me...I was

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Believe me...I was not best pleased, you may be sure BTW, J J, I hope that you presented that bike shop with a bill for that rear brake you went to so much effort to find and they reimbursed you without demur. Those Paul Racers are not cheap. I see on my 2016 invoice for my mixte

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

That sucks about the 501 skewers, Ryan. Awful. A local shop once serviced a bike (and did a “safety check”) and when I picked it up I noticed that the quick release skewer springs and adjusting nut were missing from the front wheel. They just pushed the skewer through the axle without

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Are the Paul's brakes particularly hard to install yourself? One reason why I'm such an adamant adherent of the sidepull caliper is that it's impossible to install wrong. I sold my Heron touring bike with Paul's Neo Retros cantilever brakes in 2007 to a colleague of mine. She got another friend to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Yikes! I would be PISSED! That's inexcusable. A few years ago I took in a set of wheels with Mavic 501 hubs with a couple of other pairs of wheels for some truing to a local BS and when I picked them up, the rear wheel Mavic QR skewer was inexplicably missing. Just...gone. Phoned said bike

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Thanks for your note, Andy. I agree 100 percent. My partner *did* *intervene* before the damage occurred, asking the mechanic to put the bike on a stand and take the wheel off. He ignored her. “Honest mistake”. Ugh. On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:54:59 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote: > More

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

More saintly than I would have been if standing there. "Honest mistake" is the rationalization of a good samaritan not someone with access to tools holding themself out as a mechanic. What was described was a task in need of being done right by someone who didn't do so in the first place.

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

We lost it, Joe. In the immediate aftermath, a quiet hush descended over the entire shop because everyone was shocked by what happened. And then it was like, wtf?!? The shop's first response was an unsatisfying and defensive, "it was an honest mistake," and they would have been content to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Indeed. That's really appalling. I'm so glad my LBS is competent like that and would tell me if they can't actually do the work. T On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 11:05:04 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > That's appalling, I would have LOST it if someone did this to my (very > expensive) Paul

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

That's appalling, I would have LOST it if someone did this to my (very expensive) Paul brakes. They owe you a new Racer. On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 10:59:25 AM UTC-7 J J wrote: > Sorry, just noticed your note on this week-old thread, Piaw. Yes, I > totally agree that anyone can make

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Anyone can make mistakes. When we got my wife's Rivendell-assembled Cheviot a few years back, I ended up having to re-tighten the FD, and had to adjust the shifters several times. It's not a big deal. I'd be a lot less forgiving of frame prep failures. I'm a good enough mechanic that I can

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

I would happily pay extra for Riv to prep a frame. I have absolute confidence in their work. There are lots of bike shops in my area that I have gone to when I didn’t have the time, tools, or inclination to do work myself. I’m stunned by how consistently they can be counted on for sloppy work

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

I don't even know where my LBS is, I work on my own bikes. I assume Riv is still prepping their frames for an extra fee, I would pay it. On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 8:22:57 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 8:15 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > >> To be clear cuz I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 8:15 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > To be clear cuz I'm the OP and this is going to reflect on me, I'm not sad > about anything. My concern is we're going to end up with unprepped frames > on the used market that unsuspecting buyers won't know need to be prepped. > It wasn't the

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

To be clear cuz I'm the OP and this is going to reflect on me, I'm not sad about anything. My concern is we're going to end up with unprepped frames on the used market that unsuspecting buyers won't know need to be prepped. It wasn't the main point of my post, which is that there's a new

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

I disagree with those that think its sad Riv is no longer doing this prep. Is it slightly less convenient if you are buying frame only? Sure. By previously providing this service I really think Riv was going above and beyond. Unpacking a frame, completing these items, and re-packing for

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

James, No change of heart here just checking to see if recent buyers of the Rosco have had a change of heart. I did not jump on the sale immediately and poof they were gone. Doug On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 8:33:21 AM UTC-4 James wrote: > What led to the change of heart Doug? I have

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

What led to the change of heart Doug? I have been considering a Rosco Platty for a while (would ride a 60cm tho) On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:02:05 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote: > There are lots of folks on this list who I'm sure could prep a frameset > but I wouldn't buy one unprepped.

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Joe, I will keep watching the garage sale section of the website! Doug On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 1:18 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > Doug, > > Keep an eye out for the Mermaid 55cm Proto Rosco Platy at Riv, it's going > to go up on the block one of these days. There was a time when I may have > grabbed

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

My problem is that the town was engulfed relatively recently by the Chicago suburbs. It probably would not have supported a LBS in the past, so this one opened maybe 20 years ago(guessing). They don't seem to appreciate well made steel bikes, catering to a lot of CF and aluminum. I would not

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

I bought the hanger alignment tool several years back - a great investment. Bikes get knocked around over the years. A lot of my bikes needed alignment. Especially important on bikes with indexed shifting. The derailleur tap also helped with new frames - the hanger is always full of paint. I

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Doug, Keep an eye out for the Mermaid 55cm Proto Rosco Platy at Riv, it's going to go up on the block one of these days. There was a time when I may have grabbed it myself but I'm good with my custom now..YOU buy it! On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 6:02:05 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: > There

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

There are lots of folks on this list who I'm sure could prep a frameset but I wouldn't buy one unprepped. Speaking of changes of heart, I'm on the lookout for a 55 Rosco Platy owner with buyer's regret. It happens. Doug On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 8:15:31 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

When I picked up my Roadini they'd already installed a seatpost binder bolt and aligned the frame. But I picked it up in person to avoid them having to rebox it. On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 3:23:50 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > Extremely sad if you can’t trust your LBS with such an

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

Extremely sad if you can’t trust your LBS with such an easy job. Might be worth just getting the tools and doing it yourself. Or look for the LBS that looks so rundown nobody would think to go, they usually have the skill to do anything on a steel frame. On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at

[RBW] Re: Roadini 61 on Craigslist (not mine)

I also think it is sad that they are not doing this prep. I would have no confidence in my LBS doing that well, which would make me second guess whether to get another Riv. I'm hoping that some amount of pleading will get them to reconsider this, if I am ever interested in buying another new

[RBW] Re: Roadini heavy?

Hi Ezra, I have a 61 cm Roadini and I would say that this bike feels more stiff and responsive to steering than my AHH. I have 33 mm tires on the Roadini and 38 mm on the AHH so that probably contributes. I ride the Roadini on pavement, gravel and trails without hesitation. I live in Michigan

[RBW] Re: Roadini heavy?

I agree with Bill's take but I often do. I have the Roadini, Rambouillet and Roadeo. All ride great. The Roadeo is setup as a light road bike and built up differently so hard to compare. The Roadini definitely reminds me of the Romulus in feel, but also built in a similar way. On my Ram I

[RBW] Re: Roadini heavy?

Ezra asked: Have you been a Roadini owner? *Yes, I have* Did the bike please you? *Yes, it did. I did my fastest ever 200k brevet on my Roadini. * I've heard tell that Roadini's feel sluggish and heavy for road bikes. *I've heard the same, but have not experienced that feeling myself,

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