Alex, Patrick,
Thanks for your input. I can see both arguments. As for how much a frame
flexes, I guess what seems good to some riders might not be appreciated by
another rider, as always. For example, take the Karate Monkey and the
Ogre; they have the same frame geometry, but the Ogre is
Just a note to Alex's judgment: I think one element of "better handling" is
the obviously very idiosyncratic taste and riding style of the rider. Jan
finds even modest weights in saddlebags and even rear panniers too "waggy"
for comfort; to me, even a fully loaded (35+ lb) Sackville Medium or
I've ridden both and have a 2tt Sam. The 2tt rides better weighted. The second
top tube prevents noodly-ness especially on trails when weighted.
I think the idea was the Appaloosa could take over the need for a fully lugged
import frame aimed at more trail worthiness. The 1tt Sam could then
Thanks, Drew. It just seemed odd to me that, of all bike companies, parts
just don't disappear without good reason. Your experience indicates there
may have been no need for the extra tube in the first place.
On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
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> i have ridden a 56 with
i have ridden a 56 with a double top tube (mine) and a 56 without a double
top tube. it wasnt a long ride, and i couldnt feel any notable difference
other than that the sam that wasnt mine had really skinny/hard tires.
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