Re: [RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
+1 to what Bob said. You want whatever lines are athletic or slim fit. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:17:06 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: To the OP I would respond that the Patagonia line has shifted a bit. The Snap T used to be a slightly technical piece of midlayer

Re: [RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-19 Thread jinxed
@ Patrick- I totally understand that and shop appropriately. But I was looking at the same garment from the same manufacturer. And it's funny how most things athletic fit are generally fashion clothes not intended for athleticism. I think I was mainly surprised to see an overly baggy piece

[RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-18 Thread sameness
Patagonia's been pretty notorious for changing their sizing and fit over the last 10 years or so, sometimes even on the same item from season to season. Used to be that everything was designed with an active, athletic core user in mind, and with a fit appropriate for the given activity.

[RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-18 Thread Matthew J
Glad you posted this. Sizing in active wear is plain bizarre lately. At just under 6 foot tall and weighing in at around 160 lbs I am slightly above average height and somewhat below average weight. I wear a 40R sports coat, a 15.5 neck, 32-33 sleeve. My dress pants are 33 waist and 33

[RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-18 Thread Garth
Yes .. I take all sizing guides as jokes ... lol. Since I live in a place with few retail shops, let alone what I'd call good ones ... I rely on mail ordering . When I am interested in something, I call the manufacturer and ask for garment measurements . These are the actual physical

[RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-18 Thread ascpgh
Sometimes there is bleed over from the jobber's location and sizing, like they make garments on their increments and convert them to US sizing once done. Shoes do that notoriously, all last variances aside. I was in Jackson, WY summer before last and in an effort to have the clothing for the

Re: [RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-18 Thread Patrick Moore
'Nother anecdote (you asked for it). Years ago I had several Performance LS jerseys in an incredibly bright and neon greenery-yellow. I wore them everywhere I biked to, which included school (middle aged MBA program), stores, church, and so on. People all would wince when they saw me, but our

[RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-18 Thread George Schick
Now this is a rant with which I can definitely identify. A month or so ago I went to a well known men's store to by a couple of pairs of dress slacks. I wanted pleated and a size up from my 36 waist to accommodate my late-middle-aged beer gut. Nothing available; not one pair. Further, the

Re: [RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-18 Thread Robert Barr
To the OP I would respond that the Patagonia line has shifted a bit. The Snap T used to be a slightly technical piece of midlayer insulation. That niche now belongs to the regulator fleece. If you look on the website you will see regular fit casual wear, and slim fit technical wear. From what you

Re: [RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-18 Thread Philip Williamson
That's my wife's line on my orange Riv wool long sleeve jersey-thing. Well that's nice. No one's going to hit you... by accident. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, November 18, 2013 4:48:50 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: 'Nother anecdote (you asked for it). Years ago I had several