Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2022-10-31 Thread Greg J
None of your 7 considerations calls for switching your brakes. If you're satisfied with the v-brakes you currently have, don't change them. To switch them out, depending on what you currently have, you may need new levers, new cables/housing, new cantis, front cable stop, lots of fiddling

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2022-10-31 Thread Esteban
Back when cyclocross race bikes had rim brakes, the mullet retro-front/touring-back was a preferred set-up so that the retros would't stab the rider when they had the bike on their shoulder. I've always just copied this stylistically when setting a bike up this way - just to try to be cool.

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2022-10-30 Thread RichS
Hi Matthew, I agree with Phillip and Collin; why switch to cantis when your existing V brakes appear to work fine? If it's the desire to experiment or just make a change, well, we've all been down that road — and I'm often on it! A friend of mine has a canti braked Appaloosa (very nice

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2022-10-30 Thread Garth
I've used cantilevers since the early 80's and while there are distinctions among brake models, how it is set up, the frame mounts themselves, brake cable and housing setup, and finally the riders own sensibilities, all play their part in the experience of braking. In other words, there's no

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2022-10-30 Thread Philip Williamson
You should keep the v brakes. They already are on the bike, they’re quite powerful, they are more out of the way of panniers, and aren’t affected by rack-top stuff pushing on a cable. Philip Sonoma County, Calif On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:09:17 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote: > Hi

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2022-10-29 Thread Collin A
Personally, one of the few/only reasons I would change from v to canti would be to use short pull drop bar levers that fit my tiny hands betterthat and visuals, canti brakes just look nicer to my eye. But given your circumstances, it doesn't seem worth it to go canti unless you

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2022-10-29 Thread Matthew Williams
Hi everyone, based on the brake arrangement, I have a question. But first, some background: I’m making some changes/upgrades so my bike will be better equipped for day rides, multi-day trips, and light touring. Here are some of the considerations: 1. Bike is a Joe Appaloosa 2. Wheels

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2021-12-29 Thread 'Sean, PNW' via RBW Owners Bunch
The line of logic, as I understand it, is according to Paul, the 'Neo-Retro' brakes are more powerful, yet pose heel clearance issues when used in the rear, so are most often relegated to the front where the bulk of stopping power is needed while their 'Touring' cantis fit better in the rear.

[RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2021-12-17 Thread Frank Brose
Those are neo retro up front and touring in the rear. I have the same set up on three different bikes. Here's a link to Pauls and you can see the difference. https://www.paulcomp.com/product-category/components/brakes/cantilever-brakes/ On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 10:23:44 AM UTC-6 Matthew

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2021-12-17 Thread James / Analog Cycles
Neo Retros are not as powerful as Touring cantis, because you can not get the straddle wire close to 90 degrees in relation to the brake arm. That angle is the key to high mechanical advantage. See: V brakes. The idea that they're stronger is simply based on lever feel. They feel firmer,

Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2021-12-17 Thread sam . perez . 2002
A local mechanic reasoned that the touring canti has the same mechanical advantage as the neo retros that were modeled after vintage canti’s , the implication is they are equal. Something about the neo’s being more sensitive to brake ware. Can anyone verify this? Sent from my iPhone > On

[RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2021-12-17 Thread iamkeith
I have that setup on a bike. Like others have said, heel clearance was the original consideration. But the wide profile neo retro has more modulation/subtlety to it, which is good for a front wheel. The low profile touring is more on/off binary, which is ok for a rear wheel. But, as

[RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

2021-12-17 Thread lconley
I have the same arrangement on my Bombadil. It was for pannier clearance as much as heel/leg clearance - my Bombadil is a later, longer chainstay version with less heel/leg clearance issues. I had originally bought the brakes for the Hubbuhubbuh, but changed it to Paul V-brakes and moved the