[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-30 Thread Earl Grey
Hi Michael, unhappy how? I was thinking of getting the most expensive SRAM 8 speed I can find, which seems to be about $15 (the 850), because I like the gear ratios better than Shimano's. Now you have me worried, as my current cassette on the Sam is an Ultegra, and indeed shifts dream- like. I

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-30 Thread RoadieRyan
I am using a SRAM PG 850 series 11-32 cassette (silver) with DA 9 speed barends in friction mode and it works fine, a little slop here and there but that is probably user error as I haven't been frictioning all that long. The thing I like about the 8 speed setup is that I can get the SRAM 850

Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 20:35 -0700, Stonehog wrote: I agree - 8 is worth it, but 7 is even slightly better with the silvers. For the swap to 8, all you need to do is the cassette. Plus, the ratios available with 7 are superior (there are no stock 8s that start with 13, in fact about the only

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Ginz
I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher. For now, I'm using 8sp... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Mike
If one goes from 8 to 7 speed does the rear derailer set screw need to be adjusted or do the limits remain the same? I've been using a Sheldon Century Special 8 speed cassette on my Hilsen but have thought of going to 7 speed in the future, just sorta curious about set-up. On Oct 29, 4:08 am,

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Forrest
I went from 9 to 8 using Silver shifters and the move to 8 has been an improvement for me. I have a 7-spd freewheel (and Silver shifters) on my other bike, and that works real well, too. I like the 7, but not better than the 8. Not worse, either. -- Forrest On Oct 28, 9:44 pm, Earl Grey

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Michael_S
yes, the upper limit screw has to be adjusted as 7 speed casettes are narrower than 8 or 9. That was the only thing I did switching from 9 to 7. ~Mike~ On Oct 29, 7:18 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: If one goes from 8 to 7 speed does the rear derailer set screw need to be adjusted or do

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Ginz
Also, the spacer you put behind the 7sp cassette (on an 8sp freehub body) will change the alignment. So, adjusting the limit screws is definitely necessary. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread MichaelH
I use silver shifters and 9 speed. I have been very happy with it. I tried using an inexpensive sram cassette and chain and was very, very unhappy with it. When I returned to the good Ultegra cassette and conex 908 chain I returned to excellent shifting. I use Dura Ace indexed bar ends and a 9

Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 07:18 -0700, Mike wrote: If one goes from 8 to 7 speed does the rear derailer set screw need to be adjusted or do the limits remain the same? I've been using a Sheldon Century Special 8 speed cassette on my Hilsen but have thought of going to 7 speed in the future, just

Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 06:12 -0700, Ginz wrote: I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher. For now, I'm using 8sp... The selection of 7 spd cassettes is every bit as good today as it was when they first came out, except that pretty much the silver

Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Are the very cheap black ones as durable as the more expensive ones? On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 06:12 -0700, Ginz wrote: I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher.  For now, I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 17:03 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Are the very cheap black ones as durable as the more expensive ones? I presume by very cheap you refer to the HG50s. AFAIK they're very bit as durable as the HG70s, except not as shiny and pretty looking. Compared to 10-speed cassettes,

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread doug peterson
Harris has a good selection of 7 speeds for around $30. They mention they are black the silver finish is no longer available. Not sure if that has anything to do with quality. Lots of them have a 13 smallest cog the 14-32 is still available. 8 speed standards are also $30 but you'd have to

Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:11 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What are the best combos, 7 or 8, for a 15-17-20-22-26-34? Patrick only partly in jest Moore 8 speed standards are also $30 but you'd have to buy 2 and put them together to get a decent cassette like a 13-30 or 13-32.  

Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I don't know from 50s but I mean the black ones, like that 7 sp I bought full lbs pop for about $30 including tax. Not only is mine not shiny, it is that light-absorbing matt black (or perhaps ultra-midnite brown, I'm a bit color blind) which is pretty or not as you prefer. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread Fai Mao
If you look around on the Net you can find some Falcone 7 and 8 speed freewheels that are silver. I have a couple of them and they are, surpirisingly good quality. They evidently only export the cheaper stuff to N. America for Huffy but mine has HG type shifting ramps and a nice chrome plate on

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-29 Thread charlie
Ditto..I managed to get a really nice SRAM 7 speed cassette 12-32 for under $30. Just shop Amazon and you can find them easy enough. I wanted a 13-30 and could have purchased one but the SRAM is a nice shiny silver. I don't think there is much difference in quality. They are just steel cogs

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-28 Thread Michael_S
why don't you go all the way to the top and go 7 speed? The chain won't be an issue IMO. I've used a 9 speed chain on a 7 speed Suntour cassette ( friction of course) and it shifts flawlessly. Ive read that the interior spacing is essentially the same between 7, 8 and 9 speed chains. ~Mike~ On

[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-28 Thread rperks
I find that I prefer a narrow chain on a wider cassette spacing when I am friction shifting. The shifts are still quick and smooth enough. I have 6 speeds or less on all but one bike, the Rawland. I find that I need to be much more precise with the 9 sp to keep the casette noise and rubbing

Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed

2010-10-28 Thread Stonehog
I agree - 8 is worth it, but 7 is even slightly better with the silvers. For the swap to 8, all you need to do is the cassette. Mobile Brian Hanson On Oct 28, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: why don't you go all the way to the top and go 7 speed? The chain