[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-28 Thread Lynn Haas
I've seen too many upside-down bikes missing both wheels to trust locking skewers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-28 Thread John Phillips
If there are racks or fenders bolted to the dropouts on the front of a Riv, the Abus Nutfix won't fit, it's diameter is too large. Similiarly, the Nutfix won't work on forks where the dropout is too close to the tube of the fork. I had the opposite problem with Pitlocks and my

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-27 Thread Leah Peterson
I have to correct my earlier post - I said I couldn’t get the Pit lock to fit my front wheel, but after reading Steven’s post, I remembered that I had the Abus Nutfix. I have to lay the bike on its side and use an 8 hex to unlock the wheel = Abus. But the front skewer did not fit, and not even

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-27 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 8:11:03 AM UTC-7, Steven Seelig wrote: > > > Abus now also has a locking skewer I us on my City (not Country) > Hillborne. You can't slide the covering off while the bike is upright, and > you use a #8 wrench to unlock once the bike is laid on its side. A slight

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-27 Thread 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch
Super late to party. I used to use Pitlocks when they were first devised (20 years ago) but found the Pinheads more to my liking. It looks like the Pitlocks have been improved significantly since the first version. Once committed to a the Pinhead approach, it is hard to go back because the

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-26 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 10:34:57 AM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: >> >> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for >> thieves as of late. >> What locks do you like and why? >> >> >> What did the wise say?

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-26 Thread Cinza
On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: > > I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves > as of late. > What locks do you like and why? > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-25 Thread Sean on Bike
Honestly, if my bike gets stolen then it’s opportunity for an upgrade... But when in questionable areas, I use the Sheldon Brown method that locks the back wheel to a post with a (Kryptonite) mini U lock. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html That’s usually all I travel with. This

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-25 Thread Doug Bloch
John, Thanks for depressing me as well. Upon further research, I found this NY Times review of bike locks very helpful. Looks like I will be moving back to a Kryptonite u-lock. https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-bike-lock/ Thanks, Doug On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 9:56:29 AM UTC-7,

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-25 Thread John Phillips
Hi Doug, This video shows a successful hacksaw & bolt cutter attack on the updated Tigr Mini which I have: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ0UCzi0Tpg The quick success of the 24" bolt cutter attack is the most depressing one for me: I have three Tigr Mini & Mini+'s for coffee shop

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-25 Thread Doug Bloch
When I was researching the TiGrs I saw those videos, but they were all for the older version. I could not find similar videos for the newer, thicker TiGr mini. TiGr actually addresses this on their web site: https://www.tigrlock.com/lock-testing/ Doug On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread Will
Abus mini U-lock for frame. Pitlocks for wheels and seat post. The U-lock is light and compact. The Pits weigh less than my regular skewers. On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-5, Cinza wrote: > > I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves > as of late.

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread John Phillips
If you choose to use a Kryptonite U-lock, be sure to read the maintenance info. IIRC, Kryptonite recommends using a chain lube containing silicon, Teflon or graphite to prevent corrosion and/or rust. I've read complaints from commuters whose locks failed in a month because their bikes were

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread 'C.Wilson' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thank you for the comprehensive answer. I agree on parking inside whenever possible. > On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Lynn Haas wrote: > > I didn't know those barrel-key locks were even around anymore! Be aware that > combination cable locks are also super easy to open. Any lock can be

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread Lynn Haas
I didn't know those barrel-key locks were even around anymore! Be aware that combination cable locks are also super easy to open. Any lock can be defeated with the right tools and a little time. I've heard it said that the easiest way to steal a bike is to go in broad daylight with an orange

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread Cinza
On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 5:18:31 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > I was just the other night looking at a couple of youtube videos that > showed the TiGr mini (1) being picked in less than 30 seconds, and (2) > being cut with bolt cutters also in a matter of seconds. > On 4/24/19

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread Cinza
Thank You, this is most helpful . . (I'm guessing it is a barrel if it looks like a barrel? I got my last one 7-8 years ago, round key) On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 5:26:09 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > But Kryptonite hasn't used barrel keys locks in many years. The "barrel > of a

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
But Kryptonite hasn't used barrel keys locks in many years.  The "barrel of a ball point pen" vulnerability dates back to the early 2000s, and their locks haven't used cylindrical keys in certainly the last decade or more. On 4/23/19 11:13 PM, Cinza wrote: Definitely going to check Pitlocks,

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
I was just the other night looking at a couple of youtube videos that showed the TiGr mini (1) being picked in less than 30 seconds, and (2) being cut with bolt cutters also in a matter of seconds. On 4/24/19 12:04 AM, Doug Bloch wrote: I have the TiGr mini and I love it.

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-24 Thread Thomas Blak
If you are taking about the round keys from Kryptonite, they were phased out well over a decade ago and even then, not all were opened easily. I could never open the three I owned at the time using the pen method.Take your mechanics advice with a grain of salt. Kryptonite and ABUS are the two

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Cinza
Thanks. Handsome lock, I'll check this out. On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 9:04:47 PM UTC-7, Doug Bloch wrote: > > I have the TiGr mini and I love it. > > https://www.tigrlock.com/ > > I also using security bolts on my wheels, stem, seatpost, and saddle I > bought from Wabi Cycles. > > Doug

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Doug Bloch
I have the TiGr mini and I love it. https://www.tigrlock.com/ I also using security bolts on my wheels, stem, seatpost, and saddle I bought from Wabi Cycles. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

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2019-04-23 Thread Drw
Thomas wins. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread William!
1. fahgettaboudit krypto mini ulock 2. pitlocks on wheel/seatpost. 3. generic stainless torx security bolts (a buck or so at any well-stocked hardware store) for lights, racks etc. Great security and quick to lock up. Heavy as hell, but you didn’t buy a Rivendell for the weight right? -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Cinza
Definitely going to check Pitlocks, but the reason I asked about locks is my bike mechanic just informed kryptonite locks are no longer safe, bike thieves seem to have an easy technique for the barrel key locks. On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 7:57:30 PM UTC-7, David Bivins wrote: > > With the

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread David Bivins
With the pitlocks and a Kryptonite u-lock, you can put a mount on your bike for carrying the u-lock and you don't have to worry about chains and cables. The weight is integrated into your frame, kinda. It's also really ugly. There's another lock/chain combo called the Hiplok - the chain integrates

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Thomas Blak
I use Pitlocks on my Sam and my wife's Betty Foy for both wheels and the seat post. Each bike is then locked with 2 New York Fahgettaboudits, supplemented with a Krypto cable and Kryptonite Evolution. So three U locks per bike. Then they are placed in a bike locker in my condo building with

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Cinza
Wonder if there will be some really good lightweight locks one of these days. I hate hauling a basket full of chains, cables and locks. I have two dual shackle u locks from Arbus--big and bigger (meaning heavy > and heavier). The plan is to use heavier one to lock bike and one wheel to >

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread REC (Roberta)
I have two dual shackle u locks from Arbus--big and bigger (meaning heavy and heavier). The plan is to use heavier one to lock bike and one wheel to fixed object and the other wheel to bike frame or fixed object. Theives would have to make four cuts to steal bike (or just two if they wanted

Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
No, they come in two sizes: standard 94-119m, and long 105-130mm https://www.urbanbiketech.com/collections/individual-pitlock-skewers/products/pitlock-single-skewer-with-keys-choice-of-front-rear-or-seatpost On 4/23/19 6:14 PM, Cinza wrote: Bicycle Belle, Thank you. Good to know. Is there only

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Cinza
Bicycle Belle, Thank you. Good to know. Is there only one size Pitluck for front wheels? On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 3:05:25 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Cinza- since we both have Foys, I wanted to chime in. I tried to use > Pitlock skewers in my Betz last summer and

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Cinza- since we both have Foys, I wanted to chime in. I tried to use Pitlock skewers in my Betz last summer and the mechanics could not get the skewer to fit my front wheel. Too small. The back - no issue. I don’t know why. I’ve said before I’m not a mechanic, and now I’m riding around with

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Cinza
Thank you. I'm up for the pitlocks and will consider the Mini U On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 1:09:35 PM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Hi, > I like Kryptonite Mini U-lock with pitlocks securing wheels and seatpost. > > I find Mini U is fast locking and removal with favorable

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Drw
Kryptonite mini u (orange one with dual locking shackle), hexlox on wheels and all expensive components. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

2019-04-23 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi, I like Kryptonite Mini U-lock with pitlocks securing wheels and seatpost. I find Mini U is fast locking and removal with favorable weight/security. With reasonable places to lock, it's also likely to hold the bike upright. Larger U-locks might be easier to find locking locations, but the