[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[tc]

A quality wheel set should cost less than a quality complete bike I guess, 
right?

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[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Tony DeFilippo]

Love the idea, and I'm close to actually trying it on my Jones... A 29x3" 
knobby set and a 29x2.35 semi-slick set.  EBB accounts for any height 
differential if necessary.

I also like the idea for my Saluki, a rough stuff RnR or new compass knobby set 
to pair with my compass bsp set.  But I haven't made it happen.  Quality 
wheelsets are expensive especially if they aren't seeing regular use... If I 
got into cross or something that really drove a knobby tire it would make more 
sense.

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[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Philip Williamson]

I've had "extra wheelsets" for bikes, but never used them. I just ride what 
I've got on the bike, and start fantasizing about getting another frame. 

I could use a knobby wheelset for the Bontrager, but I kind of want a whole 
new bike for dirt (forward geometry singlespeed hardtail/rigid 29er).  
I do have the kickback/dynamo wheelset I could swap back onto the Quickbeam 
for the fixed/dynamo set on it now, but to make that worthwhile, I'd want 
to put on the BG RnR tires, which means removing the fenders, which seems 
like more work than I want to do for one weekend. More fun just to build up 
another bike!

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 


On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 8:44:00 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>
> I was reading this great article 
> on
>  
> "Chasing Mailboxes" about Kevin Turinsky and his Atlantis.  He mentioned 
> he kept 3 sets of wheels for it to exploit the frame's versatility.
>
> That got me to thinking, how many people actually do that?  It seems like 
> such a great idea for the right frame/fork ... and the Atlantis seems to be 
> that bike for a lot of people.  I think the Hunq, or Ogre, or Cross-Check, 
> or Fargo, or Monster Cross might be that frame for some.
>
> The $$ savings would be great.
>
> If you don't race, if you don't do jumps, or figure yourself a weight 
> weenie, what the heck -- why not?
>
> I guess it might be a hassle to go back and forth between a SS and a 
> multi-speed setup on the same frame, so there's that...esp. if you found 
> you liked to do both regularly.
>
> I guess for most of us, we can't get away from "n+1", so there's that.
>
> Anyway, just pondering. 
>
> Good night, all...
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Patrick Moore]

I never had a problem doing this. After all, if you are spreading a chain's
wear over 3 cassettes, you are not going to wear it in to one of those
cassettes alone.

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> Is it ok to run the same chain on different cassettes (regarding different
> wear on those cassettes)?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Patrick Moore]

I tried that 25-30 years ago, only with a various moderately high end
mountain bike frameset )the last of 3 was a '91 Stumpjumper Team), years
ago, and found that I preferred different bikes for different purposes. I
had wheels for 2" knobbies, wheels for 35 mm Fatboys or City Slickers, and
a wheelset for very light 22-23 mm Turbos. Each wheel had different
cassettes. I used the same rims for all wheels, so I did not have to adjust
brakes.

I found that I missed the feel of a more "roady" bike, and discovered that
the cockpit setup was too much of a compromise, and ended the experiment
when I bought a '92 XO-1, which I built up as a gofast with the Turbos; I
then kept the steel mtb frame with 35 mm wheels as a drop bar commuter, and
got myself another mountain bike for off road riding.

Years later I did have a 60 mm wheelset for my Fargo along with a 32
(actual; Kojaks) mm one, but again discovered that, when I ride 32s I
prefer a lighter frame and a slightly more agressive position.

OTOH, 3 wheels each with its own gearing worked better than trying to get
both road and dirt gearing on the same wheelset with a Mountain Tamer Quad
and a 16 t granny "ring".

Turning the question around a bit: if you use the same bike for different
conditions, do you prefer a more dirt oriented bike for road riding, or a
more road oriented bike for dirt riding? I assume that most on this list
choose the former --witness the road-ified Sams; but I rather enjoy riding
~30 mm Elk Passes on our local dirt (when moisture has packed the sand down
a bit) and, if I had to choose 1 or t'other, I think I'd prefer a road bike
on dirt to a mountain bike on road, or for that matter, a compromise. But:
a neat bike would be a 559 road bike like my Rivs that would take both the
Elk Passes and the Rat Trap Passes; for that, I'd build 2 wheelsets for 1
bike. Oh, it would have to have either cantis or disc brakes ... (would
want to use Dura Ace 7410 levers). And in fact, that option is on my short
list for a 5th, multi-geared road, bike.



On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 3:27 AM, Jay in Tel Aviv  wrote:

> When I converted my Sam to single speed, I left the rear derailler and
> rear shifter on the bike and kept the cassette wheel and chain - to be able
> to switch back and forth.
> That must have been 3 years ago and I haven't switched once.
>
> Anyone want a decent used wheelset cheap?
>
> Jay
>
> On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 6:44:00 AM UTC+3, tc wrote:
>>
>> I was reading this great article
>> on
>> "Chasing Mailboxes" about Kevin Turinsky and his Atlantis.  He mentioned
>> he kept 3 sets of wheels for it to exploit the frame's versatility.
>>
>> That got me to thinking, how many people actually do that?  It seems like
>> such a great idea for the right frame/fork ... and the Atlantis seems to be
>> that bike for a lot of people.  I think the Hunq, or Ogre, or Cross-Check,
>> or Fargo, or Monster Cross might be that frame for some.
>>
>> The $$ savings would be great.
>>
>> If you don't race, if you don't do jumps, or figure yourself a weight
>> weenie, what the heck -- why not?
>>
>> I guess it might be a hassle to go back and forth between a SS and a
>> multi-speed setup on the same frame, so there's that...esp. if you found
>> you liked to do both regularly.
>>
>> I guess for most of us, we can't get away from "n+1", so there's that.
>>
>> Anyway, just pondering.
>>
>> Good night, all...
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Lum Gim Fong]

When you switch wheels i am guessing you run the same chain on the different 
cassetes on the different wheels. Is that ok for the chain since the cassette 
wear pattern differs from wheel to wheel?

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[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Is it ok to run the same chain on different cassettes (regarding different wear 
on those cassettes)?

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[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Bob Lovejoy]

+1 - what Bill said... 

I love the idea, I love the possibilities!  But those wheels, sitting there 
in the corner or hung on hooks, they can call out to you... I heard someone 
state that almost any cool bike part can have that effect but wheels, in my 
experience, are the worst... or the best certainly to be treated with 
great respect, logic and discipline.  Kind of reminds me of that "you can 
have any two out of the three".  Indeed!

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL


On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 11:57:07 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Inevitably when I run an extra set of wheels for a bike, I end up buying 
> another frame to go with the wheels.  Wheels are the gateway drug for N+1.  
> :)
>
> BL in EC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Ron Mc]

I have clinchers and tubies each for two bikes

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[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

When I converted my Sam to single speed, I left the rear derailler and rear 
shifter on the bike and kept the cassette wheel and chain - to be able to 
switch back and forth.
That must have been 3 years ago and I haven't switched once.

Anyone want a decent used wheelset cheap? 

Jay 

On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 6:44:00 AM UTC+3, tc wrote:
>
> I was reading this great article 
> on
>  
> "Chasing Mailboxes" about Kevin Turinsky and his Atlantis.  He mentioned 
> he kept 3 sets of wheels for it to exploit the frame's versatility.
>
> That got me to thinking, how many people actually do that?  It seems like 
> such a great idea for the right frame/fork ... and the Atlantis seems to be 
> that bike for a lot of people.  I think the Hunq, or Ogre, or Cross-Check, 
> or Fargo, or Monster Cross might be that frame for some.
>
> The $$ savings would be great.
>
> If you don't race, if you don't do jumps, or figure yourself a weight 
> weenie, what the heck -- why not?
>
> I guess it might be a hassle to go back and forth between a SS and a 
> multi-speed setup on the same frame, so there's that...esp. if you found 
> you liked to do both regularly.
>
> I guess for most of us, we can't get away from "n+1", so there's that.
>
> Anyway, just pondering. 
>
> Good night, all...
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

[Bill Lindsay]

Inevitably when I run an extra set of wheels for a bike, I end up buying 
another frame to go with the wheels.  Wheels are the gateway drug for N+1.  
:)

BL in EC

On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 8:44:00 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>
> I was reading this great article 
> on
>  
> "Chasing Mailboxes" about Kevin Turinsky and his Atlantis.  He mentioned 
> he kept 3 sets of wheels for it to exploit the frame's versatility.
>
> That got me to thinking, how many people actually do that?  It seems like 
> such a great idea for the right frame/fork ... and the Atlantis seems to be 
> that bike for a lot of people.  I think the Hunq, or Ogre, or Cross-Check, 
> or Fargo, or Monster Cross might be that frame for some.
>
> The $$ savings would be great.
>
> If you don't race, if you don't do jumps, or figure yourself a weight 
> weenie, what the heck -- why not?
>
> I guess it might be a hassle to go back and forth between a SS and a 
> multi-speed setup on the same frame, so there's that...esp. if you found 
> you liked to do both regularly.
>
> I guess for most of us, we can't get away from "n+1", so there's that.
>
> Anyway, just pondering. 
>
> Good night, all...
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>

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