On Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:15:16 UTC+11, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Nick: I don't know what a Merckx 69 is, but I like it!
The model is a Merckx Mourenx. I bought the frame on closeout for about 1/3
of the price when it was a current model, and though it's a road frame, I
mainly built it up
Nick: I don't know what a Merckx 69 is, but I like it!
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I setup a 1x12 for my wife, who's an experienced cyclist. She was initially
very suspicious about only having a single chainring, having ridden
multiple chainring bikes for several decades, but now she likes the single
chainring setup.
Thanks, Jeffrey, good to know. I'm 98/100 happy with 10 cogs in back, but
it would be nice to have a 13 in front of the present small 14 cog, so I'll
keep that in mind.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:26 AM Jeffrey Arita wrote:
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> We (wife and me) have been friction shifting for oh, maybe
Patrick,
We (wife and me) have been friction shifting for oh, maybe 10 years now.
Mostly 9 speed because it works wonderfullywe just got rando-type bikes and
went to the dark side (11 speed drivetrain). To be fair, both bikes came stock
with 11 speed. We did appreciate the dual-control
9+10 were autoshifty for me in friction.
7+8 are great!
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GE: what shifters did you use for the 11? One day I'll try 11, but I know
modern BES pull much less cable per unit of angular movement of lever than
modern ones, eg the Silvers. I can sweep all 10 cogs with less than 90* of
the SunTour lever, and the leftside lever moves about 30* to shift from
I had a bar-end, 11-speed, friction shifting set up for a time and it
wasn't bad. I ended up not keeping the bike (not because of the shifting,
but due to overlap with other bikes), but I'd do it again on a bike, if it
made sense for the set up Though, I frankly think the 2x10 was just as
Speaking of 'many-cogs," does anyone shift 11 in friction? 12? How do you
find it?
Patrick Moore, who finds shifting 10 with Bar Cons quite easy.
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SunRace also has a 12 speed drivetrain gruppo. Cranks, Shifter, Chain,
Derailleur and Cassette.
-J
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Grant’s not the only one! I’ve slowly drifted from 7 to 8 to 9 and now 10-seed
cassettes. To be fair, I think the early N+1 speed systems really were a lot
worse for practical riding. They always seem to start out less reliable, less
inter-compatible and much more expensive. Then the
This was especially funny to me as recently I have been reading the early
Readers (thanks, Reed!) and there are many instances of Grant lamenting the
unavailability of quality 6spd freewheels. Now here's an Atlantis with
double that number of cogs out back!
Living in the flatlands, I've come
Way back they did corn cob cassettes with 40-something 50-something up front
for pro racers.
Now seems like they are reversing it.
It would be interesting to compare times of todays racers with the old racers
and see what the diffs are now.
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They are definitely running smack into the wall of the law of diminishing
returns as it applies to Technology. Aside from marketing, this has become a
case of "Can we do it", not "What are the benefits to the rider?" At least one
of my bikes has 14 speeds. No Hydraulics required, just a front
I looked at the Rotor stuff on Bikeradar. By the time you have a 52t cog in
a pile of 13 on the cassette, it would have to be made of NASA-level
unobtanium or nears negating the promoted weight penalty of a second
chainring and derailleur of a 2x10 system.
I'm neither undone by the complexity
Bought a park chain whip today. Package states can be used for 12 speed...
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Agreed, 10 seems like the a great choice for 1x's right now. 11 and 12
speed are more expensive and possibly less reliable, and almost certainly
are going to continue to be moving targets. 8 and 9 speed are simple and
will be around forever, but the mechs are not really designed for
wide-range
My 1x8 11-40 works well.
I own a 12sp Sunrace cassette that I impulse bought and regret. I would sell it.
1x10 is a sweet spot I think in terms of gear spacing. 2x10 really allows a
wealth of gears that may almost be too rich. It has me reconsidering 2x8.
-J
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I saw that SRAM has 11sp bar end shifters.
Kind of attracted to them, for my upcoming Fitz. Torn between black and red
pseudo modern parts and timeless 9sp Silver/gray DuraAce and XTR. I’ve got some
of each, and they’d both look great in the planned bike.
On topic: yeah, I ain’t getting a
Wow!I just looked at some Rotor stuff. Pro only or people with way, way,
way, high cycling priorities!
Very interesting and very lightweight groupset, though.
They showed the guts of the brifters and looks so delicate like you could
snap it off the handle bars with a mild palm strike.
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LOL. And here I thought I was living dangerously on the cutting edge with
my 10 speed cassette.
But the person who reviewed the 13 setup is an idiot:
*There’s been a lot of talk about single ring transmissions in road riding
over the last few weeks. We’ve seen the launch of the new 3T Strada Due
I guess cross-chaining was a myth!
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Come on Man, catch up! Rotor has a 1x13 with its hydraulic drivetrain
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/244867-video-first-look-rotor-1x13-all-you-need-know-about-rotors-latest-hydraulic
Btw, Sram has had 12 speed for what a year and Campy introduce 12 speed
mechanical this year.
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