Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Jason Fuller
(To clarify, I am using available-to-customers date for my start date, hence 2008.. which I think is right?) On Monday, 29 November 2021 at 09:54:44 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: > Now that Ted and Jim are commenting, I feel like this timeline project has > officially made the big leagues haha!

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Jason Fuller
Now that Ted and Jim are commenting, I feel like this timeline project has officially made the big leagues haha! Thanks guys! Jim, I was inspired to pick up from what you've already contributed to so much on your page. Ted, that is great insight straight from the horse's mouth as it were.

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Rambouillet were all Toyo-built. The first run (orange) had a mis-positioned rear brake bridge as has been documented. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/ On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote: > Regarding builders: Joe Starck definitely built Road and All

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
First mention of the Bomba was RR #39, Spring 2007 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bombadil/index.html On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:10:16 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: > Aaah so much good insight here, and it's fun to see that others have done > exactly what I'm doing after all! Marty,

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Buffalo was the original name of the Bombadil. - J On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:10:16 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: > Aaah so much good insight here, and it's fun to see that others have done > exactly what I'm doing after all! Marty, thanks for posting that up, I had > completely

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread AJ
Received my fire red bombadil in 2008. On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:32:15 PM UTC-5 Paul Brodek wrote: > I have a Starck-built '98 Custom Road, serial stampings and signature > shown below. Photo is from the previous owner. JS was definitely building > for Riv in '98-'99. > > Paul Brodek

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread iamkeith
Regarding builders: Joe Starck definitely built Road and All Rounder frames. I'm not so sure he built Rambouillets, unless perhaps a prototype or two? It occurs to me that the Roco Bebe kid-carrier bike is missing from your list. On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 1:34:30 PM UTC-7

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Those are pretty collectible then! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > As Ryan stated there are in fact a few RS-made Rivs out there. Very few. > > Joe Bernard > >> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:22:14 AM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote: >> Sachs designed

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Joe Bernard
As Ryan stated there are in fact a few RS-made Rivs out there. Very few. Joe Bernard On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:22:14 AM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote: > Sachs designed the lugs used on the earliest models. He didn’t make them > or any frames. Waterford was the earliest vendor and as

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Sachs designed the lugs used on the earliest models. He didn’t make them or any frames. Waterford was the earliest vendor and as others have noted, a few other small builders have helped over the years, Nobilette most recently. Toyo did several frame models for a period of about 5 years, and

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Ryan
Steven, you are right about "unofficial customs" like the snapshot of an early catalogue posted by Joe Bernard mentions where it notes a 300.00 upcharge. And Nathan is right that during a peak demand period they used some US top builders for customs and RS was one of them. I think one was for

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Nathan F
Eric, Sach's decade long waiting list is a recent invention from frame building's explosion in popularity around the late 00s / early 10s. It wasn't always that difficult to have him build you a bike. In the 90s I believe he designed some lugs for Rivendell, and then later made 3 frames or so

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Eric Daume
I’ve never heard that they used Sachs as a builder. Hasn’t he always had a long waiting list? I think they’ve used a Sachs fork crown or lugs, or maybe he used theirs. On Sunday, November 28, 2021, Ryan wrote: > Customs...I feel Riv started mixing tubesets(Reynolds/Vitus/Columbus) > and