Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!

2010-02-05 Thread cyclotourist
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 21:47 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: > > TCO= the Audi 5000 of cycling > > I beg to disagree. The Audi "unintended acceleration" issue was proven > -- PROVEN -- to be user error and no fault of the car at all. TCO can >

Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!

2010-02-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 08:21 -0500, bpus...@aol.com wrote: >You fool! Everyone knows that if you have humongous feet you need a > custom. What were you thinking?!?! Especially since you're already wearing custom shoes: http://www.exotic-footwear.ru/big_jpg/clown.jpg -- You received this me

Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!

2010-02-05 Thread BPustow
You fool! Everyone knows that if you have humongous feet you need a custom. What were you thinking?!?! Are we almost finished with this discussion? Bill In a message dated 2/5/2010 12:39:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rasterd...@comcast.net writes: Until the recent endless discussions her

Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!

2010-02-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 21:47 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: > TCO= the Audi 5000 of cycling I beg to disagree. The Audi "unintended acceleration" issue was proven -- PROVEN -- to be user error and no fault of the car at all. TCO can cause problems that have nothing whatever to do with user error.

Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!

2010-02-04 Thread cyclotourist
TCO= the Audi 5000 of cycling On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:39 PM, JimD wrote: > Until the recent endless discussions here concerning TCO I didn't have a > clue about it. > > Now I discover that three custom bikes I've ridden and liked the most over > the past 30 years have > all had the dreaded TCO.

[RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!

2010-02-04 Thread JimD
Until the recent endless discussions here concerning TCO I didn't have a clue about it. Now I discover that three custom bikes I've ridden and liked the most over the past 30 years have all had the dreaded TCO. I'm bummed and thinking I've should have employed more competent designers. I

Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:22 PM, james black wrote: > Bicycles should not cause this kind > of low-grade anxiety. It's unnecessary - if a bike has TCO, the wheels > are too big. Design it out with smaller wheels! > > Oh, c'mon. TCO tolerance is as personal as saddle likes and pedal choices. I hav

Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread james black
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 23:36, Grant Petersen wrote: > TCO ends up being a problem---in my opinion---only in theoretics, but not in > practice. THere are some builders who would disagree; and although in the > spirit of diplomacy and reasonableness and "agreeing to disagree" and all > that, I acce

[RBW] TCO

2010-02-02 Thread Don Genovese
TCO nearly brought me down numerous times in the twelve years I've owned a Rivendell Longlow. Don't kid yourself, it is not necessary to travel 17 mph to fall and cause severe head injury or a broken hip. I've had both while wearing a helmet. The aforementioned injuries were sustained while riding

Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread cyclotourist
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Horace wrote: > > I think that for people who think TCO is an issue -- it is, and I don't > try > > to change their minds. But I think if someone is wondering whether it's > > going to be an issue for them... it

Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Horace wrote: > I think that for people who think TCO is an issue -- it is, and I don't try > to change their minds. But I think if someone is wondering whether it's > going to be an issue for them... it probably isn't. > TCO was an issue, once, for me on one bike

Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread Horace
I think that for people who think TCO is an issue -- it is, and I don't try to change their minds. But I think if someone is wondering whether it's going to be an issue for them... it probably isn't. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-01 Thread Grant Petersen
Seems to be a problem because it has a name/acronym. All it means is that at speeds less than about 6mph, if you turn the wheel enough and time it just wrong with your pedal stroke, your shoe hits the fender or tire. It's one of those things that sounds worse than it is. It cannot happen at faster

Re: [RBW] TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread Timothy Whalen
David, I rode 2 point something Nano raptors on my 58 cm Atlantis for some time and don't remember any TCO. It's been a couple of years though so my memory may not be perfect but I tend to think I would remember if there had been a problem. Bundling up for my Sunday ride now. Tim On Sun, Jan 31,

[RBW] TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread cyclotourist
Morning query: With BIG 50mm or larger tires on a700c Atlantis, are there TCO issues? Enjoy a Sunday ride! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist g