[RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Surlyprof 
I used to double wrap tape to boost the simension but, last time I was at Riv, 
they had some that looked even thicker.  They were wrap Newbaum's over either 
industrial felt of foam tape.  I tried it and I like it.  Can't bring myself to 
wrap Newbaum's over dutch grips like Grant was doing recently.  Wrap and let 
wrap.

John

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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Bill Lindsay 
My recommendation is do not tuck.  If you are afraid it's going to unravel, 
and want to avoid that, then have somebody who has done it many times wrap 
your bars for you.  The more times you do it the better you will get at it. 
 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 4:54:53 PM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:
>
>  Hi Bill, 
>
> What you last mentioned I did not think of until I finally finish putting 
> everything together.  I was rebuilding this bicycle and put all the parts 
> together and said, well, now it is time to wrap the bars and realize that 
> all the video's are wrapped with handlebars without bar end silver 
> shifters.  If I follow the recommendations in the video's, it would appear 
> I need to remove the bar end shifters just to wrap them and then, tuck, 
> them into the bar end with shifters but as I mentioned before, they are 
> thick and probably would have issues just putting that cork wrap in and 
> keeping it tight since it is a wedge connection.  I am not sure how secure 
> it would be, or if I am being a little to conservative, if I do as 
> recommended by not tucking it in and using a razor blade to cut the 
> access.  I do not want them to unravel down the road if I did not tuck it 
> in.
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> I use cloth tape exclusively now, but I wrapped many hundreds or 
>> thousands of bars with chubby tape (cork and fake-cork variants) in my past 
>> life working at bike shops.  With chubby tape, I recommend you still start 
>> at the bottom and that you still do not tuck any in the end.  It's natural 
>> to want to avoid that bulge on the end, so you do one of two things.  
>>
>> 1.  Overhang the first half-wrap or so AS IF you were going to tuck it 
>> in.  Don't tuck it in.  When you are done, use a sharp xacto blade to slice 
>> it off.  
>> 2.  Cut a wedge shaped end to your tape, so it's got a nice cut edge to 
>> line up with the end of the bar on that first wrap around.   
>>
>> I always wrap the bars with the barcon shifters OUT.  If you insist on 
>> wrapping the bars with the barcon shifters installed, then you should use 
>> method #2.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 12:43:35 PM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:
>>>
>>> I have seen that one, Bob and Wally, but I wanted to know if people did 
>>> that using cork wrap tape.  That is thicker than the canvas cloth used in 
>>> the video.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Wally Estrella  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Same here.  I don't do it enough to remember it and getting to old to 
 try ;)


 On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-4, Bob K. wrote:
>
> I watch this video from Riv every time I wrap bars:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8DcaOJzrA
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Lee Legrand 
 Hi Bill,

What you last mentioned I did not think of until I finally finish putting
everything together.  I was rebuilding this bicycle and put all the parts
together and said, well, now it is time to wrap the bars and realize that
all the video's are wrapped with handlebars without bar end silver
shifters.  If I follow the recommendations in the video's, it would appear
I need to remove the bar end shifters just to wrap them and then, tuck,
them into the bar end with shifters but as I mentioned before, they are
thick and probably would have issues just putting that cork wrap in and
keeping it tight since it is a wedge connection.  I am not sure how secure
it would be, or if I am being a little to conservative, if I do as
recommended by not tucking it in and using a razor blade to cut the
access.  I do not want them to unravel down the road if I did not tuck it
in.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I use cloth tape exclusively now, but I wrapped many hundreds or thousands
> of bars with chubby tape (cork and fake-cork variants) in my past life
> working at bike shops.  With chubby tape, I recommend you still start at
> the bottom and that you still do not tuck any in the end.  It's natural to
> want to avoid that bulge on the end, so you do one of two things.
>
> 1.  Overhang the first half-wrap or so AS IF you were going to tuck it
> in.  Don't tuck it in.  When you are done, use a sharp xacto blade to slice
> it off.
> 2.  Cut a wedge shaped end to your tape, so it's got a nice cut edge to
> line up with the end of the bar on that first wrap around.
>
> I always wrap the bars with the barcon shifters OUT.  If you insist on
> wrapping the bars with the barcon shifters installed, then you should use
> method #2.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 12:43:35 PM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:
>>
>> I have seen that one, Bob and Wally, but I wanted to know if people did
>> that using cork wrap tape.  That is thicker than the canvas cloth used in
>> the video.
>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Wally Estrella 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here.  I don't do it enough to remember it and getting to old to
>>> try ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-4, Bob K. wrote:

 I watch this video from Riv every time I wrap bars:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8DcaOJzrA

 Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Bill Lindsay 
I use cloth tape exclusively now, but I wrapped many hundreds or thousands 
of bars with chubby tape (cork and fake-cork variants) in my past life 
working at bike shops.  With chubby tape, I recommend you still start at 
the bottom and that you still do not tuck any in the end.  It's natural to 
want to avoid that bulge on the end, so you do one of two things.  

1.  Overhang the first half-wrap or so AS IF you were going to tuck it in. 
 Don't tuck it in.  When you are done, use a sharp xacto blade to slice it 
off.  
2.  Cut a wedge shaped end to your tape, so it's got a nice cut edge to 
line up with the end of the bar on that first wrap around.   

I always wrap the bars with the barcon shifters OUT.  If you insist on 
wrapping the bars with the barcon shifters installed, then you should use 
method #2.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 12:43:35 PM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:
>
> I have seen that one, Bob and Wally, but I wanted to know if people did 
> that using cork wrap tape.  That is thicker than the canvas cloth used in 
> the video.
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Wally Estrella  > wrote:
>
>> Same here.  I don't do it enough to remember it and getting to old to try 
>> ;)
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-4, Bob K. wrote:
>>>
>>> I watch this video from Riv every time I wrap bars:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8DcaOJzrA
>>>
>>> Bob K. in Baltimore
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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Lee Legrand 
I have seen that one, Bob and Wally, but I wanted to know if people did
that using cork wrap tape.  That is thicker than the canvas cloth used in
the video.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Wally Estrella 
wrote:

> Same here.  I don't do it enough to remember it and getting to old to try
> ;)
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-4, Bob K. wrote:
>>
>> I watch this video from Riv every time I wrap bars:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8DcaOJzrA
>>
>> Bob K. in Baltimore
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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Wally Estrella 
Same here.  I don't do it enough to remember it and getting to old to try ;)


On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-4, Bob K. wrote:
>
> I watch this video from Riv every time I wrap bars:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8DcaOJzrA
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
>
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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Bob K. 
I watch this video from Riv every time I wrap bars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8DcaOJzrA

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Steve Palincsar 
And start at the bottom at an angle with "overlap" and when you're done 
cut it with a razor blade, gives you a tapered start and avoids a 
bunched up thick end at the shifter, which is not only unsightly but 
makes a lump you will feel because you will have your hand on it often.



On 05/03/2017 12:42 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

bottom-->up.  No tuck.

BL in EC

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 9:11:07 AM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:

I have always seen it wrapped from the bottom up with it wrapping
going outward from the top.  Just wanted to see everyone opinion
on whether it should be tucked. I have not done it yet but it
seems that it will be too tight to have that cork edge wedge using
the bar end shifters.  It may not even work but I am fine with
possibly taping that end since the cork is black.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Tim Gavin
 wrote:

Yes, in case I wasn't clear, my above suggestion works with
wrapping from the bottom up.

I dislike wrapping from the top down because the overlap is
the wrong way on the bar tops.  The edges of the tape get
curled up pretty quickly.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Patrick Moore
 wrote:

I always wrap from bottom upwards. This has the advantage
that the spirals overlap on the downward side, so that
hand pressure doesn't separate them.

Tape at the end point near the stem clamp.



On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Lee Legrand
 wrote:

Hello all,

I am wrapping my handlebars on a bicycle that I
rebuilt but I wanted to ask a question about the
ends.  This bicycle has Riv bar ends and typically
youtube videos show that the wrap without these bar
ends but tucked into the ends with plugs.  My question
is, how is it typically done when using bar end
shifters when this fit looks to be really tight?  Do
you tape it at the ends with electric tape or is it do
able to tuck it in with bar shifters?

Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Bill Lindsay 
bottom-->up.  No tuck.  

BL in EC

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 9:11:07 AM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:
>
> I have always seen it wrapped from the bottom up with it wrapping going 
> outward from the top.  Just wanted to see everyone opinion on whether it 
> should be tucked. I have not done it yet but it seems that it will be too 
> tight to have that cork edge wedge using the bar end shifters.  It may not 
> even work but I am fine with possibly taping that end since the cork is 
> black.
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Tim Gavin  > wrote:
>
>> Yes, in case I wasn't clear, my above suggestion works with wrapping from 
>> the bottom up.  
>>
>> I dislike wrapping from the top down because the overlap is the wrong way 
>> on the bar tops.  The edges of the tape get curled up pretty quickly.
>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Patrick Moore > > wrote:
>>
>>> I always wrap from bottom upwards. This has the advantage that the 
>>> spirals overlap on the downward side, so that hand pressure doesn't 
>>> separate them.
>>>
>>> Tape at the end point near the stem clamp. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Lee Legrand >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,

 I am wrapping my handlebars on a bicycle that I rebuilt but I wanted to 
 ask a question about the ends.  This bicycle has Riv bar ends and 
 typically 
 youtube videos show that the wrap without these bar ends but tucked into 
 the ends with plugs.  My question is, how is it typically done when using 
 bar end shifters when this fit looks to be really tight?  Do you tape it 
 at 
 the ends with electric tape or is it do able to tuck it in with bar 
 shifters?

 Thanks,

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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Lee Legrand 
I have always seen it wrapped from the bottom up with it wrapping going
outward from the top.  Just wanted to see everyone opinion on whether it
should be tucked. I have not done it yet but it seems that it will be too
tight to have that cork edge wedge using the bar end shifters.  It may not
even work but I am fine with possibly taping that end since the cork is
black.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Yes, in case I wasn't clear, my above suggestion works with wrapping from
> the bottom up.
>
> I dislike wrapping from the top down because the overlap is the wrong way
> on the bar tops.  The edges of the tape get curled up pretty quickly.
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> I always wrap from bottom upwards. This has the advantage that the
>> spirals overlap on the downward side, so that hand pressure doesn't
>> separate them.
>>
>> Tape at the end point near the stem clamp.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Lee Legrand  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I am wrapping my handlebars on a bicycle that I rebuilt but I wanted to
>>> ask a question about the ends.  This bicycle has Riv bar ends and typically
>>> youtube videos show that the wrap without these bar ends but tucked into
>>> the ends with plugs.  My question is, how is it typically done when using
>>> bar end shifters when this fit looks to be really tight?  Do you tape it at
>>> the ends with electric tape or is it do able to tuck it in with bar
>>> shifters?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Tim Gavin 
Yes, in case I wasn't clear, my above suggestion works with wrapping from
the bottom up.

I dislike wrapping from the top down because the overlap is the wrong way
on the bar tops.  The edges of the tape get curled up pretty quickly.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I always wrap from bottom upwards. This has the advantage that the spirals
> overlap on the downward side, so that hand pressure doesn't separate them.
>
> Tape at the end point near the stem clamp.
>
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> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Lee Legrand  wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am wrapping my handlebars on a bicycle that I rebuilt but I wanted to
>> ask a question about the ends.  This bicycle has Riv bar ends and typically
>> youtube videos show that the wrap without these bar ends but tucked into
>> the ends with plugs.  My question is, how is it typically done when using
>> bar end shifters when this fit looks to be really tight?  Do you tape it at
>> the ends with electric tape or is it do able to tuck it in with bar
>> shifters?
>>
>> Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Patrick Moore 
I always wrap from bottom upwards. This has the advantage that the spirals
overlap on the downward side, so that hand pressure doesn't separate them.

Tape at the end point near the stem clamp.



On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Lee Legrand  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am wrapping my handlebars on a bicycle that I rebuilt but I wanted to
> ask a question about the ends.  This bicycle has Riv bar ends and typically
> youtube videos show that the wrap without these bar ends but tucked into
> the ends with plugs.  My question is, how is it typically done when using
> bar end shifters when this fit looks to be really tight?  Do you tape it at
> the ends with electric tape or is it do able to tuck it in with bar
> shifters?
>
> Thanks,
>
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[RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Johnny Alien 
I start the wrap at the bar end and wrap up to the center. Doing it that way I 
never tuck and have never felt the need too. 

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[RBW] Wrapping handlebars

2017-05-03 Thread Lee Legrand 
Hello all,

I am wrapping my handlebars on a bicycle that I rebuilt but I wanted to ask
a question about the ends.  This bicycle has Riv bar ends and typically
youtube videos show that the wrap without these bar ends but tucked into
the ends with plugs.  My question is, how is it typically done when using
bar end shifters when this fit looks to be really tight?  Do you tape it at
the ends with electric tape or is it do able to tuck it in with bar
shifters?

Thanks,

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