Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale

[Pancake]

Not legal advice (anyone wanting actual legal advice about this, I can give 
you referrals to competent attorneys), but some scrounging on google seems 
to show that it's probably not be a problem. It looks like they are in 
difference trademark Classes at not likely to be confused:
Class 12 - "Land vehicles and conveyances, ambulances, automobiles, 
*bicycles*/cycles" according to Nolo 
.
Class 24 - Fabrics and Textile Products
Class 25 - Clothing and Apparel Products
Also, Platypus doesn't appear to be a registered trademark of the hydration 
back company, I think it's copyrighted which has different legal 
protections (more about the ability to reproduce that item under that name 
in short). 

For example, Camelbak is a similar type of hydration pack used for biking, 
hiking, running, etc. They're classified in 11, 13, 21, 23, 31, 34 if I'm 
reading the US Patent and Trademark search site  
correctly.

Also, it's a great name for a bike that has loads of useful features that 
have evolved down a weird path to be really fun looking and functional. 

Take care,
Abe

On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>
> I don't think Platypus is a viable name, because there already a Bicycle 
> product with the name Platypus! Hydration pack I think. 

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Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale

[Jingy]

I'm about 6' 1"-ish, with a 92-96cm PBH(the range is based on my 
self-measurements and my wife's measurements) and I ordered a 64. Based on 
their size chart, I could have gone either 59 or 64. I was at the upper end 
of of 59 and the lower end of 64, so I called and talked to Grant. Before I 
could finish telling him my specifics he said get the 64!
Based on that, I think GaryBear could ride the 64.



On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Hey tall people, what's PBH for 6'-3" ? I'm pretty sure Leah's dad needs a 
> 59cm, but not 100%. 

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Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale

[Eric Daume]

At 6'3/36" PBH, I rode a 59cm first gen Clem H. It fit well. I'm not sure
if/how the geo changed since then.

Eric

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:39 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Hey tall people, what's PBH for 6'-3" ? I'm pretty sure Leah's dad needs a
> 59cm, but not 100%.
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[RBW] Clem PreSale

[Roberta]

Oh, he is so lucky to get one!  I'm looking forward to a Riv family picture 
this summer. 

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Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale

[Leah Peterson]

Haha, Ray. Dad puts up with a LOT. He just always sweetly smiles at his 
family’s dumb antics. Like that time I monogrammed his vest GaryBear, or made 
him an email address, also a version of Gary Bear. We never thought he’d use it 
for anything important, but now every time he has a business dealing and they 
ask for his email address, he has to choke out our pet name for him. 🤣 

So, if I got him sparkly wheels, hed roll his eyes and he’d ride them. In 
exchange, he gets me - a daughter who doesn’t hunt but does fish and shoot. 

Trade offs!
Leah

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Ray Evans  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is adorable, Leah...but he will stop short of the custom sparkle wheels, 
> right??
> 
>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 2:42 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>> Wow, they sold so quickly! I wanted to add a photo of the lucky man who got 
>> the RBW Blue Clementine today. 
>> 
>> I will also say that Dad never once balked at a step-through frame. He 
>> hunts! He fishes! He rides a girls’ bike. Like his daughter. 
>> 
>> Dad is adorable.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On May 22, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Doug H.  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> I checked at 3:12 just after it went live..and the 52 cm Green is already 
>>> sold out! I guess I will wait for the Platypus after all...or buy an 
>>> Atlantis. It's nice when choices are taken away from me.
>>> Doug
>>> 
 On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:14 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
  wrote:
 It’s high noon! On pre-sale day!
 
 Guess who got a new Clem - no not me, silly #RivFriends - my DAD!! Dad 
 is 6’3” and rides a diamond frame Specialized Globe that is way too small 
 for him and that I have witnessed him on no fewer than 3 occasions nearly 
 tip over trying to mount.
 
 HE’S GETTING BLUE AND WE’RE GOING TO BE TWINS! Mom has a Cheviot. 
 She’s kind of spoiled...
 
 Leah
 
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Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale

[masmojo]

I don't think Platypus is a viable name, because there already a Bicycle 
product with the name Platypus! Hydration pack I think. 

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Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale

[Joe Bernard]

Hey tall people, what's PBH for 6'-3" ? I'm pretty sure Leah's dad needs a 
59cm, but not 100%. 

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Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale

[DHans]

3:12 eastern time zone

On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 3:20:04 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>
> I checked at 3:12 just after it went live..and the 52 cm Green is already 
> sold out! I guess I will wait for the Platypus after all...or buy an 
> Atlantis. It's nice when choices are taken away from me.
> Doug
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:14 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It’s high noon! On pre-sale day!
>>
>> Guess who got a new Clem - no not me, silly #RivFriends - my DAD!! 
>> Dad is 6’3” and rides a diamond frame Specialized Globe that is way too 
>> small for him and that I have witnessed him on no fewer than 3 occasions 
>> nearly tip over trying to mount.
>>
>> HE’S GETTING BLUE AND WE’RE GOING TO BE TWINS! Mom has a Cheviot. 
>> She’s kind of spoiled...
>>
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale

[Doug H.]

I checked at 3:12 just after it went live..and the 52 cm Green is already
sold out! I guess I will wait for the Platypus after all...or buy an
Atlantis. It's nice when choices are taken away from me.
Doug

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:14 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It’s high noon! On pre-sale day!
>
> Guess who got a new Clem - no not me, silly #RivFriends - my DAD!! Dad
> is 6’3” and rides a diamond frame Specialized Globe that is way too small
> for him and that I have witnessed him on no fewer than 3 occasions nearly
> tip over trying to mount.
>
> HE’S GETTING BLUE AND WE’RE GOING TO BE TWINS! Mom has a Cheviot.
> She’s kind of spoiled...
>
> Leah
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[RBW] Clem PreSale

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

It’s high noon! On pre-sale day!

Guess who got a new Clem - no not me, silly #RivFriends - my DAD!! Dad is 
6’3” and rides a diamond frame Specialized Globe that is way too small for him 
and that I have witnessed him on no fewer than 3 occasions nearly tip over 
trying to mount.

HE’S GETTING BLUE AND WE’RE GOING TO BE TWINS! Mom has a Cheviot. She’s 
kind of spoiled...

Leah

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[RBW] Clem Presale is over.

[Wayne Naha]

The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run Clems 
and Clementines.  They are sold out until 2016.  It looks like the 
Clem/Clemintine experiment turned out fairly successfully for them.  There 
must be a lot of new Clem and Clementine owners out there waiting anxiously 
for late October!

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[RBW] Clem presale end date

[Edwin W]

The last Blug post said June 1, I thought it was Aug 1. Now I have to convince 
my friend in a day instead of two months!

Hard to be a salesman sometimes, what with these shifting deadlines. 

Edwin

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[RBW] Clem Presale Complete

[CMR]

For those who ordered the Clem, be sure to check your email today for a 
time-sensitive complete offer. They want an answer by tomorrow!

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Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale.

[Jason Hartman]

What Joe said, and Loose Screws now has nice 27" tires:

http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=single&c=Tire/Tube&sc=Tire&tc=Touring%20Tire&item_id=SWT-27138TW&id=388484816578

I would try a set of those first, before setting your sights on a whole new
bike.

Jay Hartman

On Tuesday, March 10, 2015, Joe Broach  wrote:

> Hi Wayne,
>
> I'd hate to talk you out of a new Riv, but you're selling that Raleigh
> short. IIRC, the Gran Sport had nice, butted tubing and a lovely fork, all
> Reynolds 531. That's as good or better than anything you'd get in a new
> production bike (most similar to something like a Hilsen or Rambouillet or
> Roadeo in the Riv line-up, in terms of liveliness). The workmanship and
> details like braze-ons will be better on a new Riv-spec'd bike, but the
> Raleigh shouldn't be holding you back at this point.
>
> How does your current bike fit? If fit is good (or could be with a
> bar/stem change), I'd spring for a 700c wheelset, maybe with a dynamo hub
> if you think you might want to try some night riding). Those bikes usually
> have centerpull brakes and lots of room for fatter tires (700x35 at least,
> and get good tires). Have a blast on it for a year or more, and then decide
> what you'd want different in a second bike or replacement.
>
> You say you want something more versatile and new. I say that Gran Sport
> is a super-versatile bike and nothing like obsolete.
>
> Best,
> joe broach
> pdx or
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Wayne Naha  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks, everyone for all your thoughts.  The reason I was vacillating
>> between the Clem and the Sam is primarily economic, being that they are
>> Riv's lowest cost models.  I could be very happy on either bicycle.  Right
>> now, I am riding a 1976 vintage Raleigh Gran Sport.  Its a fine bike.  It
>> is old school lugged steel, but I tend to baby it because of its age, and a
>> perceived need to keep it on smooth pavement.  It has 27" wheels, and those
>> don't come in a lot of widths anymore.  I am wanting something more
>> versatile, and new.  The thought of a discount Atlantis or Hunq sounds
>> great.  I love the look of the Appaloosa, with the diagatube, the curvy
>> stays, and the long rear triangle.  I would ride it mostly about town,
>> doing errands, and the occasional foray into the trails around here.   I
>> really don't have any real plans for s24o's, but when the opportunity comes
>> up, it will be great to have the bike that will handle it.  I think I've
>> talked myself into a Clem, but I'm open to suggestion.  I have been curious
>> about the 650B wheel size, just to try it and see.  The medium Clem (my
>> size) has those, a bonus.  But what about that 29.8 mm seatpost?  Who makes
>> that size?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 4:14:01 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I bought my Hillborne after seeing the first Clems but I did so because
>>> it was the right compliment to an MTB I already had.  It was a replacement
>>> for a Bianchi that maxed out at 25c tires.  The Hillborne is a pretty
>>> different bike than the Clem.  From initial reports, it sounds like the
>>> Clem is closer to a discount Atlantis or Hunq based on stoutness and a
>>> discount Appaloosa based on stability from longer stays.  The Hillborne is
>>> a bit tighter and less stout.  Closer to a Hilson than the Atlantis or
>>> Hunq.  That said, I just carried 4 bottles of wine in the front basket and
>>> two bottles in the saddlebag yesterday and, aside from a little shimmy, it
>>> was definitely up for the task.  I'd feel comfortable camping or touring
>>> with it (seems like many people do).  I've also found that everything I
>>> ride now that is not my Hillborne feels twitchy and overly aggressive.  The
>>> Sam H is incredibly smooth and handles beautifully but I've come to expect
>>> that from every Rivendell I ride.  If you want to ride fatter tires than a
>>> 45 (40 with fenders), get the Clem... and enjoy whatever level of
>>> components you want to put on it.  Take a look at the Clem Drew Beckmeyer
>>> gave to his girlfriend in the other post.  He described it as stout like a
>>> Hunq and it looks fantastic with the Brooks b67 and the Schwalbe Big Ben
>>> 50's (50+?) he has on it.  A machine to be proud of for sure (as is the
>>> Hillborne if you decide to go that way).
>>>
>>> If you are close enough to Riv to try both, that would be the thing to
>>> do.  If not, buy the one that supports what you want to do with a bike.
>>> They said the Clem rides like a Riv on the Blug and I believe them.  As for
>>> pedals, I love both my thin gripsters and my grip kings.  If I had a Clem,
>>> it would have one of those pedals on it (maybe even one of each!... That
>>> sounds very "Clem")
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 10:30:22 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>>
 The Clem sounds like a great bike for me, just the right level of
 stoutness to the frame and those nice longer chainstays.  I had been
 considering a Sam, b

[RBW] Clem PreSale.

[David Banzer]

Someone convince me that the large Clem will fit me. I ride a 65cm Redwood, 
the large Clem is a 59cm. After debating about what new bike I'd like, I 
want something based around an Albatross bar. Seems like the Clem is the 
thing, if it will be big enough. I'll give Riv a call tomorrow, but just 
churning ideas around this evening.
Are there specs posted anywhere? Or is it more of a just-trust-Riv sorta 
thing?
David
Chicago

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