[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-13 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
FYI the “braking assistance” as they refer to it in the app can be adjusted for 
sensitivity or turned off altogether.  I happen to really like that feature as 
I rarely use my own brakes except when coming to a full stop at a light etc.  

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Jim, that's a good point I forgot (I don't have the wheel anymore). When 
coasting you don't actually keep your feet still and it's easy to activate that 
backpedal braking unintentionally. It bothered me a bit because I kept slowing 
myself down. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-12 Thread Jim A
Copenhagen wheels incorporate regenerative braking - when backpedaling, 
there is extra resistance in the freehub caused by a battery charging 
mechanism. The charge supplied is minimal but many people like the idea of 
this feature. However, it means that the chain is very prone to slackness 
and bunching when backpedaling, especially in smaller cogs. This shouldn't 
be having an effect when simply coasting, but your phenomenon may be 
related in some way.

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Check your chain length, too. Usually with my wheel I was spinning out and 
coasting in a too-short top gear, which is big/small ring/cog. You might have 
just enough extra chain going on in combination with a little drag on the 
freehub to cause the slack. But make sure big/big still works!

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-12 Thread maxcr
Thanks for all your replies! I’ll try the lube suggestion to see if that fixes 
the issue.
Max

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-12 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Max,
I never had any chain issues here in Michigan on my Quickbeam nor on my wife’s 
multi geared Atlantis.

Ride conditions 90+ degrees F in late summer down to 25 degrees F in early 
Winter on dry roads with no snow.  

Good luck!

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Sounds like what Alex is saying. Here in usually warm California I didn't have 
that issue. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-12 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Heavy lube and cold temps had that effect on my drivetrain in winter...I think 
the free hub has more drag than a standard free hub.  Did you strip your chain 
of the factory oil they put on it?

I’d apply several rounds of a light lube with lots of solvent in the formula. 
Something like clean ride or T9.  That might eliminate the resistance causing 
the slack chain.  I had considered going to a clutch derailleur but I always 
forget because I don’t have issues until I switch to heavy lube and get cold 
temps (sub freezing)

Hope that helps?

Alex

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-05-12 Thread maxcr
Joe and other Copenhagen wheel owners, did you have any problems with chain 
slack when coasting on the copenhagen wheel? I haven't used it much but I'm 
surprised to see my chain completely slack and sitting on the chainstay 
when I coast... something doesn't' seem right.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
Max

On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 7:22:26 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> - Fixing flats -
>
> It's heavy, bolt on, and there's a stabilizer that uses a 22mm (included) 
> wrench on the hub end and a hose clamp at the chainstay. This adds three 
> wrenches to my kit that aren't necessary for removing the front wheel, and 
> I would really rather not do that job on the side of the road. 
>
> It's not a deal breaker because I love the way the hub/battery works with 
> no wires on the frame, but the flatting situation is the one area where I 
> really miss my mid-drive kits. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread maxcr
Looks like Marathon Supremes are the winners 700x50mm. (I can't fit a 60mm 
under the current fenders anyways.)
Thanks everyone!
Max

On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 6:31:41 PM UTC-5, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Also Marathon Supremes on mine Copenhagen Wheel.  First thing I did on 
> both Copenhagens was toss those crappy Kendra tires!
>
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread J Imler
I’ve recently ordered this guy -
www.ridekick.com

Let’s you have your Riv and e-propulsion too. I’m getting it for my wife really 
whose got some health conditions but another selling point is that we can share 
it. I like the companies ideals also (easy parts replacement and longevity).

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Re: [RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread Patrick Moore
I'm intrigued by the Copenhagen wheel myself, though for the present solely
in an academic way. But I think that having a Rivendell with assist would
beat another electric bike.

Me, I think I'd use 60 mm Big Apples. They are pretty darned bulletproof
and you can run them soft enough to absorb bumps (that is, about 25 psi; I
don't know why Schwalbe puts a 35 min pressure label on their 60 mm tires,
since 35 in such fat tires is rock hard. Me, I say 25 or 27 psi max).

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 5:22 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> - Fixing flats -
>
> It's heavy, bolt on, and there's a stabilizer that uses a 22mm (included)
> wrench on the hub end and a hose clamp at the chainstay. This adds three
> wrenches to my kit that aren't necessary for removing the front wheel, and
> I would really rather not do that job on the side of the road.
>
> It's not a deal breaker because I love the way the hub/battery works with
> no wires on the frame, but the flatting situation is the one area where I
> really miss my mid-drive kits.
>
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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread Joe Bernard
- Fixing flats -

It's heavy, bolt on, and there's a stabilizer that uses a 22mm (included) 
wrench on the hub end and a hose clamp at the chainstay. This adds three 
wrenches to my kit that aren't necessary for removing the front wheel, and I 
would really rather not do that job on the side of the road. 

It's not a deal breaker because I love the way the hub/battery works with no 
wires on the frame, but the flatting situation is the one area where I really 
miss my mid-drive kits. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Also Marathon Supremes on mine Copenhagen Wheel.  First thing I did on both 
Copenhagens was toss those crappy Kendra tires!

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread Steve Palincsar

Are there issues besides the weight when it comes to fixing flats?

On 2/29/20 6:26 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

I should clarify a thing that might not be obvious if you don't have a 
Copenhagen Wheel: The dang thing is heavy and doesn't budge over bumps. That's 
where the need for a big, cushy tire comes from.


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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread Joe Bernard
I should clarify a thing that might not be obvious if you don't have a 
Copenhagen Wheel: The dang thing is heavy and doesn't budge over bumps. That's 
where the need for a big, cushy tire comes from. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Marathon Supremes (700c x 50mm) on mine...going into my third season without a 
flat 爛

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread Joe Bernard
As big as you can get, and make sure you have flat protection because fixing 
one on the road (I haven't done it yet 爛) will not be fun. The Road Cruiser I 
have came with the used wheel and fits under my fender, but it's a bone 
rattler. My eClem really needs fatter tires. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2020-02-29 Thread maxcr
I finally got my wheel and my lbs installed it today. It came with a Kenda 35mm 
tire... way too small for my Atlantis. 

What tire do you guys recommend with the Copenhagen wheel? I’m thinking 700x50 
with mostly road use.

Schwalbe Marathons? Joe’s e-Clem seems to have the green guard road cruiser.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
Max

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2019-11-27 Thread Jonathan D.
Is there any company that produces a 650B version of something like this?  
Thinking of getting a wheel like this for my wife’s 45 Clementine to help with 
pulling kids in the bike trailer. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2019-11-24 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
I can not recommend the Copenhagen wheel enough for any Riv application.
Joe was correct I initially had my NOS purchased single speed on my Quickbeam.  
My personal experience was it extended my SS rides into 35-40 miles vs mid 
20’s.  I personally have left it in ECO mode after one experimentation with the 
other boost modes.  While riding it just feels like a continuous tailwind of 
sorts.  Mostly noticed while taking off from stops or attempting accelerations 
for any occasion.
It has now been moved onto a 68cm Bombadil and performs just as magnificently.
Looking to pick up a 26 inch multigeared one to go on my wife’s 53cm Atlantis 
to potentially lengthen the distance we cover on 90 minute -2hrs rides together.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2019-11-24 Thread Joe Bernard
That's an average range for most ebikes, and can be stretched considerably on 
the Copenhagen with judicious use of the Eco and 0 settings. One of the things 
I like about it on my Riv is it still pedals like a Riv, I can ride with very 
little assistance on flats and click it off completely for descents. 

That said, I *am* an urban rider. If you really want to tour with juice on a 
Riv you need a system that accepts switching batteries mid-ride. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2019-11-24 Thread Howard Hatten
Thanks for the heads up on this price max. I’ve been on the fence but this 
price forced my hand. Just ordered. 

Howard
Livonia mi. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2019-11-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
IIRC the maximum range on the Copenhagen Wheel is 30 miles.  That 
doesn't compare well with most e-assist bikes, and while that might be a 
fine range for an urban commuter, Rivs can be so much more.


On 11/24/19 4:58 PM, somervillebikes wrote:
Superpedestrian is a local company, and I see their wheels all over 
town, usually on bikes that blow past me :). I've seen them on nice 
road bikes and on clunky salvaged 10-speeds. I agree they need to 
start offering these in 650B. 20" would be great, too, if they'd fit-- 
I'd throw one on my Bike Friday Haul-a-Day in a heartbeat.


Anton "feeling a bit slow" Tutter
velolumino.com



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:15 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:

I think that every Rivendell bike can be elegantly electrified
with a Red Copenhagen wheel.
I have ridden one on multiple occasions (miss you Amit) and feel
that it provides the best of both worlds.

That said their are so many different e-bikes on the market
currently that it is hard to compare apples to apples when
discussing pros and cons of each.

Joe excited to see how you like the Copenhagen conversion compared
to your previous Riv e-bike experimentations.




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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2019-11-24 Thread somervillebikes
Superpedestrian is a local company, and I see their wheels all over town, 
usually on bikes that blow past me :). I've seen them on nice road bikes 
and on clunky salvaged 10-speeds. I agree they need to start offering these 
in 650B. 20" would be great, too, if they'd fit-- I'd throw one on my Bike 
Friday Haul-a-Day in a heartbeat.

Anton "feeling a bit slow" Tutter
velolumino.com



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:15 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> I think that every Rivendell bike can be elegantly electrified with a Red 
> Copenhagen wheel.
> I have ridden one on multiple occasions (miss you Amit) and feel that it 
> provides the best of both worlds.  
>
> That said their are so many different e-bikes on the market currently that 
> it is hard to compare apples to apples when discussing pros and cons of 
> each.
>
> Joe excited to see how you like the Copenhagen conversion compared to your 
> previous Riv e-bike experimentations.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2019-11-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Ryan "Abcyclehank" has one on his Quickbeam. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

2019-11-24 Thread maxcr
For anyone who has been looking for an opportunity to try the Copenhagen 
wheel, I just got a black Friday email from them offering the wheel for 
$995 (it was $1,100 after tax and shipping).

Use code: HOMEFORTHEHOLIDAYS

I tried out a couple of years ago and was impressed with how intuitive it 
felt. Since then, I've been thinking about one of these and finally went 
for it today. I'll probably install it on my Atlantis - hope that's not 
heresy! The idea is to make winter commuting a bit shorter to keep riding 
through Jan/Feb here in Boston.

Anyone else tried the wheel on something other than a Clem, an All-Rounder 
or a Rosco?

Max

On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 4:22:22 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It's been on the market a couple years, after a rather long gestation 
> period with numerous delays. There have been no major updates as of now, a 
> lot of that got done in those delays. 

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