Re: [RBW] Re: Fall bosque ride
Jack: I don't think that the lessening of weight on hands is the result only of torso stretching and compression; my impression is that, as you bend over more (up to a point, of course, and also of course if your hips are right wrt the bb, your torso muscles -- would be interesting to identify which -- naturally take up the weight. Bending over just now with knees bent, I sense, or think I sense, a tightening in muscles on the front and back of the torso, particularly those of lower back and belly. At any rate, I was surprised at how much difference a mere centimeter more reach made in the overall feel of the bike -- I'm pretty sure I'm not imagining it -- and in particular to the feel of my hands on the bar. I certainly noticed a bit more strain on my neck than before, but that's acceptable, at least for my sort of riding, and it goes away with use, since again, the feel largely repeats what I feel on my road bikes. I love our local bosque and acequia system. It's all the more pleasant given the arid, high-desert surroundings -- the cottonwood and thicket belt along the river extends from 1/2 to a couple of miles on either side, depending on the local extent of the irrigation ditch system, which varies from point to point. Believe me, on an oven-dry afternoon, riding in the shade is wonderful! But the bosque also has a wonderful fall beauty; we don't get brilliant reds, but we do get bright golds and yellows. Paul Horgan's The Great River is the classic history of riverine settlement from ancient times through the Spanish era to modern times (well, published in 1954, IIRC). On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:33 PM jack loudon wrote: > Thanks for the photos and comments. Two things: > > First, Bosque is a new word for me. Thought you meant Basque until I > Wiki'd it. Thanks for the introduction. > > Second, regarding your comment: "And I noticed again that being bent over > very often, and in this instance, *removes* weight from your > hands/arms/shoulders: my hands felt *lighter* on the bar." I remember > feeling this as well, and thought it was because when bent over far enough, > the torso reaches its elastic limits, with the back stretched and the > stomach compressed to offset the pull of gravity, and therefore doesn't > require muscles to maintain a bent-over position. If this is correct, > supple people would have to bend over farther than stiff people, before > this effect is felt. > > Jack > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 2:44:44 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> Nice 18-mile dirt trail ride just now; perfect fall weather. Each season >> has its own beauty, but one element of each season's beauty is the quality >> of the light; I daresay the differences are more noticeable at 5K+ feet. >> >> The new (1 cm longer, 10 instead of 9) stem felt very good. A wee, tiny >> bit of a stretch to the hoods (shortish Shimano aero hoods) but that's >> fine, since the benefit is principally a less cramped feel on the long >> ramps (Maes Parallel bar) -- long even tho' levers are attached rather high >> on the curve. >> >> And I noticed again that being bent over very often, and in this >> instance, *removes* weight from your hands/arms/shoulders: my hands felt >> *lighter* on the bar. (This requires that your saddle be sufficiently >> behind the bb, though.) A bit more exercise for my neck, but overall more >> comfortable. >> >> Interesting: the Matthews feels more like my 2 Riv Roads now, tho' those >> have 8 cm stems (albeit Nittos) 3 or 4 cm below saddle, while the Matthews >> has a bar 1/4" below saddle and a 10 cm stem; it also has a bar 4 cm wider: >> 42 versus 38, so there are different ways to skin this particular cat. >> >> The City has installed little jetties or decks from where to view the >> river. The viewpoint is 1/2 mile south of Central Boulevard, the old Rt 66 >> about 5-6 miles south of my house as crows fly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Patrick Moore >> iPhone >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> * >> *** >> *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services.
[RBW] Re: Fall bosque ride
Thanks for the photos and comments. Two things: First, Bosque is a new word for me. Thought you meant Basque until I Wiki'd it. Thanks for the introduction. Second, regarding your comment: "And I noticed again that being bent over very often, and in this instance, *removes* weight from your hands/arms/shoulders: my hands felt *lighter* on the bar." I remember feeling this as well, and thought it was because when bent over far enough, the torso reaches its elastic limits, with the back stretched and the stomach compressed to offset the pull of gravity, and therefore doesn't require muscles to maintain a bent-over position. If this is correct, supple people would have to bend over farther than stiff people, before this effect is felt. Jack On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 2:44:44 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Nice 18-mile dirt trail ride just now; perfect fall weather. Each season > has its own beauty, but one element of each season's beauty is the quality > of the light; I daresay the differences are more noticeable at 5K+ feet. > > The new (1 cm longer, 10 instead of 9) stem felt very good. A wee, tiny > bit of a stretch to the hoods (shortish Shimano aero hoods) but that's > fine, since the benefit is principally a less cramped feel on the long > ramps (Maes Parallel bar) -- long even tho' levers are attached rather high > on the curve. > > And I noticed again that being bent over very often, and in this instance, > *removes* weight from your hands/arms/shoulders: my hands felt *lighter* on > the bar. (This requires that your saddle be sufficiently behind the bb, > though.) A bit more exercise for my neck, but overall more comfortable. > > Interesting: the Matthews feels more like my 2 Riv Roads now, tho' those > have 8 cm stems (albeit Nittos) 3 or 4 cm below saddle, while the Matthews > has a bar 1/4" below saddle and a 10 cm stem; it also has a bar 4 cm wider: > 42 versus 38, so there are different ways to skin this particular cat. > > The City has installed little jetties or decks from where to view the > river. The viewpoint is 1/2 mile south of Central Boulevard, the old Rt 66 > about 5-6 miles south of my house as crows fly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrick Moore > iPhone > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > ** > ** > *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fall bosque ride
40 KB's never enough!, your public demands larger files for a detailed peek. -Kai BKNY On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 5:44:44 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Nice 18-mile dirt trail ride just now; perfect fall weather. Each season > has its own beauty, but one element of each season's beauty is the quality > of the light; I daresay the differences are more noticeable at 5K+ feet. > > The new (1 cm longer, 10 instead of 9) stem felt very good. A wee, tiny > bit of a stretch to the hoods (shortish Shimano aero hoods) but that's > fine, since the benefit is principally a less cramped feel on the long > ramps (Maes Parallel bar) -- long even tho' levers are attached rather high > on the curve. > > And I noticed again that being bent over very often, and in this instance, > *removes* weight from your hands/arms/shoulders: my hands felt *lighter* on > the bar. (This requires that your saddle be sufficiently behind the bb, > though.) A bit more exercise for my neck, but overall more comfortable. > > Interesting: the Matthews feels more like my 2 Riv Roads now, tho' those > have 8 cm stems (albeit Nittos) 3 or 4 cm below saddle, while the Matthews > has a bar 1/4" below saddle and a 10 cm stem; it also has a bar 4 cm wider: > 42 versus 38, so there are different ways to skin this particular cat. > > The City has installed little jetties or decks from where to view the > river. The viewpoint is 1/2 mile south of Central Boulevard, the old Rt 66 > about 5-6 miles south of my house as crows fly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrick Moore > iPhone > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > ** > ** > *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
