[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-23 Thread 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch
Michael, This is probably repeating much of what has been said here, but I've had experience with two setups. I found that the small Ortlieb Front Rollers fit nicely on the lower rail of the Nitto Big Rack and cleared the canti-brakes well, too:

Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-22 Thread Ron Mc
I don't believe there is significant difference - certainly the racks themselves are all the same, only the mounting attachments are different. I think maybe Grant pressed for a safer rating for the Mark's rack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-22 Thread Tim Gavin
I don't understand how the M-12 with its substantial fork tang and fixed struts is rated *lower* than the M-18, with its plate steel tang and adjustable struts. My superficial analysis would ascribe the same integrity to the M-18 as the M-1. But then, I'm not an engineer. I probably would have

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-22 Thread Garth
You are correct, it makes zero sense at all since the M-1 and the M-18 appear to be the exact same rack minus the 2 extra supports which need not even be used of course, but in no way should lessen it's rating. Lungimsam, The fixed Nitto rack I was referring to was the other one Riv sells,

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Garth
Soma's Deluxe Porteur rack has rails for front bags . It has 5 mount points now so it would be plenty stable. I don't know about clearance for wide canti's but here's a couple pics of it with CR720's . http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-3773699254952/soma-porteur-rack-stainless-steel-8.gif

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Mike, Since you have a canti-Sam, I think you could use a Nitto Mini Front. That's the one that bolts through the fork crown and uses the braze-on mounts just below the canti-mounts. That rack is fine with medium Wald... maybe even large Wald. (See Manny's pics). I use the Nitto Mini Front

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Ron Mc
or try a Paul touring canti up front http://www.modernbike.com/product-2126191538?gclid=CjwKEAiAoIK1BRCRiMqphvnlwlwSJAAOebPMTmGNwCc8mxH3eyYbYiWId7Fzr6NsrwlvkM3fDwxJAhoCCS_w_wcB this is the best brake I've

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Minh
Just my experience, i use a pauls up front (neo-retro) with a BFR and the clearance is tight. but if he goes with one of the smaller nittos than i agree, big fan of the pauls. back to the OPs issue, i'm also surprised that you can't get enough stability with a marks or nitto mini with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Tim Gavin
Or use the Nitto M12. It has a substantial brake tang and straight arms to the cantilever posts. It also happens to be the cheapest Nitto front rack. On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Ron Mc wrote: > or try a Paul touring canti up front >

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Lungimsam
Marks rack is only rated at 4.4lbs. Max capacity with 2 struts, 6lbs with 4 struts. RBW issues a serious failure warning on their racks page about this. If a person has a canti bike it seems the best thing to do is use a rack with fixed, unmovable struts and fork crown arm. That way no

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Edwin W
I have had the same experience: Mark's rack is relatively strong, the basket is relatively weak. It is a "wobbly" kind of weak rather than a "snap" kind of weak, in general, but Manny posted some pictures of his rack where the wire snapped. I think the key to prevent that is not have the

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Garth
I wonder about the Mark's rack too. I've yanked and pried as hard as I can on my bike and I can't get it to budge. I have a 4 point mount, with 2 on top of fork . I'd say the basket is much weaker than any rack. They were never intended to be mounted on top of racks like they are being

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Garth
FWIW, the fixed Nitto front rack has the same rating ! So the adjustability of it does not seem to limit it at all. And yes, at 4.5 pounds that's not alot. Yet, how many times have we seen/heard people carrying large melons with a basket ? Of course this is overloading it , but people can

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread drew
is the common failure that the struts come loose from the bolts and the thing rotates onto the front wheel? i have a mark's rack, which has never had a problem, but it is sometimes wiggly and requires straightening and tightening on a regular basis. my wife has one of those fixed strut ones

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Ron Mc
I have a Nitto M18 with diving board and long stays to the front dropouts on one bike, and the Marks rack using just the rod bolt attachments in my photo above, and both are rock-solid. The Nitto rod bolts are swages -steel on aluminum. The reason for the 4.4-lb. rating is that dynamic

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread John Hawrylak
I use the VO Pass Hunter with integrated decailuer on my 88 Schwinn Voyageur. 2 fixed struts to the cantilever bolt and a rod through the fork crown. The weak point would be the brazing of the strut to the rack body. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ > > -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Lungimsam
I, too, was puzzled by this and called RIV thinking they meant 4.4kg rating for their Mark's Rack, but they said it is indeed 4.4lbs. with 2 struts and 6lbs. with 4 struts. So I went with the M18 since it is rated to carry much more weight. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread BrettG
I've been trying to decide between Mark's M-1 or M-18. They both seem identical except for the extra struts and light mount on M-1, so I don't understand how the M-1 is rated 4.4 lbs and the M-18 is 17.6? If you will only mount on the front, seems like the M-18 would be the better choice as I

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Lungimsam
The Nitto M-12 is 5kg/ *11lbs*. rated (for canti bikes) The M-18 is 8kg/ *17.6 lbs*. rated (for sidepull bikes) See here: http://nitto-tokyo.sakura.ne.jp/carrier-E.html VO says their Rando rack is rated at 15lbs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-21 Thread Michael Ullmer
Thanks everyone for the input! Wow, I'm never disappointed by the amount of knowledge this group has. I'm going to try a few different options based on the equipment that I have on hand. That should keep me busy for a few weeks. Thanks everyone! On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 8:28:57 PM

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

2016-01-20 Thread dougP
Michael: I haven't used the Nitto Big Front Rack but it looks like the low rider rail should give clearance. Maybe look into other panniers? Doesn't the Nitto have a couple of mounting rails for panniers? There've been a few versions of that rack. FWIW, on my Atlantis I have a Tubus Duo