[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
Nice! How do those Compass tires compare to the JB greens? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
Those are some pretty impressive breaks! Took a look at the Gevenalle front. It only has a 14-tooth capacity. My old Superbe had 18, so works perfectly well on the current 17-tooth jump. On the old Raleigh, with the 23-tooth jump, it worked perfectly well as long as I didn't use the bottom 2 or 3 rear cogs. On those small cogs the chain bottomed out on the cross-piece at the back of the cage. I never went there anyway as the gear-train was selected so that those few gears on the 26-tooth cw were available on the 44 with the larger rear cogs. The Gevenalle DOES look bomb-proof, but you may be limited on the use of your smallest rear cogs. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
Agreed - thanks, Michael. The 105 and a Sachs I had laying around both have cages that nearly brush the chain stay. I pulled the CX70 from the hunqa and will be using that. Brian On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 3:27:40 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: I have not found the 105 to be the best choice for very small chainrings. The cage is too long to get low enough before it hits the stay. I have found the Campy Comp Triple to be much better. I think the IRD is molded after it. Enjoy the new ride. Michael On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:42:43 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: I am finishing up an overhaul on my '09 AHH. I've changed out a few things - replaced my Jack Brown Greens (measured 34.5mm when I pulled 'em) with Compass Stampede Pass rubber (measuring around 31.5mm). Edelux 2 to improve lighting from the original 1. On a lark, I put the old Mark's rack with the Plat rack extension on the back of the bike. I've come to realize that I don't like putting the weight up front on this guy due to wheel flop, but I still want to occasionally camp with this bike - a good platform is key. I also changed out most of the drivetrain: 1. dropped the 44T for a 42T to hopefully reduce the chance of breaking another front derailleur 2. went back to indexed 9-speed downtube shifters and rear 9-speed cassette - also retrying the Wipperman chain In an effort to reduce the (albeit light) occasional shimmy, I put a Miche needle bearing headset on. Initial test rides show are nice and snappy!!, but I have some work to do on the derailleur adjustments (rear) and will have to put the 105 front derailleur back on (tried an older Sachs) due to clearance on the tight Compass cranks. One more day and it'll be just right. Pics: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk4EQ4R1 Brian Hanson Seattle, WA Bike Blog http://www.stonehog.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
Brian, that smooth copper is a glorious color for a Hilsen! Perhaps because it was always my favorite color in the crayon box, but it never came out on paper the way it looked in the box. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, November 7, 2014 3:58:14 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: I like the Herse cranks a lot. High quality, thick/durable chainrings. I've used them now for over a year and several thousand miles between two bikes. No problems other than a couple broken derailleurs on one of the cranks (the Hilsen, of course) that are likely either chainline or too big a jump. Still experimenting on that. For reference, it happened to 2 different derailleurs - Shimano CX70 outer cage fail, and Campy Centaur CT inner cage fail: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk1iQ4KS Brian On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:32:41 PM UTC-8, WETH wrote: Brian, I like the idea of Mark rack with platrack on the rear. I may have to give that a try. Are those Rene Herse cranks from Compass? If so, how do you like them? How have the chainrings worn compared to other brands? I am thinking of buying a set for my Rivendell Road Standard. Any thoughts after you have used them for a while would be appreciated. Thanks, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
I like the Herse cranks a lot. High quality, thick/durable chainrings. I've used them now for over a year and several thousand miles between two bikes. No problems other than a couple broken derailleurs on one of the cranks (the Hilsen, of course) that are likely either chainline or too big a jump. Still experimenting on that. For reference, it happened to 2 different derailleurs - Shimano CX70 outer cage fail, and Campy Centaur CT inner cage fail: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk1iQ4KS Brian On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:32:41 PM UTC-8, WETH wrote: Brian, I like the idea of Mark rack with platrack on the rear. I may have to give that a try. Are those Rene Herse cranks from Compass? If so, how do you like them? How have the chainrings worn compared to other brands? I am thinking of buying a set for my Rivendell Road Standard. Any thoughts after you have used them for a while would be appreciated. Thanks, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
CX-70 and Campy Centaur CT: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk1iQ4KS For what it's worth, I moved to a 42/28 setup on the cranks now, and I'm putting another CX-70 on it. Will test this out to see if it was the original 44 ring, or the 14-tooth shift that stressed the derailleur. I have a nice Suntour XC Pro FD on my other bike with the Herse cranks (also 44/28). No problems ever. Love that stuff - almost bought some NOS Suntours a while back. Gevenalle looks promising, too: http://www.gevenalle.com/store/products/derailleurs/ Supposedly stiffer steel cage (to handle demands of mud-caked CX races), and not badly priced. Brian On Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:42:48 AM UTC-8, GAJett wrote: What derailleurs have you been breaking? My Hilsen has a 44-41-24 triple setup. This originally came with a nondescript wide-range triple front derailleur, which shifted miserably. I then put on an old SunTour Supurbe racing derailleur. This shifts like a dream on the 17-tooth jump from the small chainwheel. The Supurbe came off my old bike with a 49-44-26 TA chainset, where it also shifted quite well over the 23-tooth jump. That old bike now has a old Huret Jubilee front derailleur, which is quite serviceable, despite the apparent delicacy, for a bike that doesn't get ridden much anymore. Reading elsewhere I have found numerous comments that a standard racing double often works better for extreme jumps than a wide range triple. This may be because the shorter cage is stiffer. Your 14-tooth difference should present no problem. An added benefit would be that the shorter cage would allow the front derailleur to sit closer to the outer chainring without interference with the chainstay. An old Campy Record might do the trick. The Shimano FD CX70 sold by Rivendell http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/d14.htm might work as well for your wide double. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
What derailleurs have you been breaking? My Hilsen has a 44-41-24 triple setup. This originally came with a nondescript wide-range triple front derailleur, which shifted miserably. I then put on an old SunTour Supurbe racing derailleur. This shifts like a dream on the 17-tooth jump from the small chainwheel. The Supurbe came off my old bike with a 49-44-26 TA chainset, where it also shifted quite well over the 23-tooth jump. That old bike now has a old Huret Jubilee front derailleur, which is quite serviceable, despite the apparent delicacy, for a bike that doesn't get ridden much anymore. Reading elsewhere I have found numerous comments that a standard racing double often works better for extreme jumps than a wide range triple. This may be because the shorter cage is stiffer. Your 14-tooth difference should present no problem. An added benefit would be that the shorter cage would allow the front derailleur to sit closer to the outer chainring without interference with the chainstay. An old Campy Record might do the trick. The Shimano FD CX70 sold by Rivendell http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/d14.htm might work as well for your wide double. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
A racing double has long been a recommendation for 1/2 step+granny setups, especially on low-Q cranksets like TA Pro V and Stronglight 49. For about six years, I've used a 70s Campy Record with a slightly wider TA triple: 50-46-26 on a Raleigh International. I've long suspected that this is because you seldom shift in or out of the granny, but I've had few problems as long as the derailleur's at the right height. Peter Adler Berkeley, CA/USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
I have not found the 105 to be the best choice for very small chainrings. The cage is too long to get low enough before it hits the stay. I have found the Campy Comp Triple to be much better. I think the IRD is molded after it. Enjoy the new ride. Michael On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:42:43 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: I am finishing up an overhaul on my '09 AHH. I've changed out a few things - replaced my Jack Brown Greens (measured 34.5mm when I pulled 'em) with Compass Stampede Pass rubber (measuring around 31.5mm). Edelux 2 to improve lighting from the original 1. On a lark, I put the old Mark's rack with the Plat rack extension on the back of the bike. I've come to realize that I don't like putting the weight up front on this guy due to wheel flop, but I still want to occasionally camp with this bike - a good platform is key. I also changed out most of the drivetrain: 1. dropped the 44T for a 42T to hopefully reduce the chance of breaking another front derailleur 2. went back to indexed 9-speed downtube shifters and rear 9-speed cassette - also retrying the Wipperman chain In an effort to reduce the (albeit light) occasional shimmy, I put a Miche needle bearing headset on. Initial test rides show are nice and snappy!!, but I have some work to do on the derailleur adjustments (rear) and will have to put the 105 front derailleur back on (tried an older Sachs) due to clearance on the tight Compass cranks. One more day and it'll be just right. Pics: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk4EQ4R1 Brian Hanson Seattle, WA Bike Blog http://www.stonehog.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
Brian, I like the idea of Mark rack with platrack on the rear. I may have to give that a try. Are those Rene Herse cranks from Compass? If so, how do you like them? How have the chainrings worn compared to other brands? I am thinking of buying a set for my Rivendell Road Standard. Any thoughts after you have used them for a while would be appreciated. Thanks, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul
Man I do love that goldenrod Hilsen! Such a standout color. I like the 5ish year refresh idea... looks like the new kit will serve you well for a long time to come. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
