[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2019-04-15 Thread Ash
Really good stuff! The bash guard that comes with side/low is really my favorite. Would be grate to have it in black. Who does the powder coating for you? On Monday, 15 April 2019 12:36:32 UTC-7, jandrews wrote: > > Ash the frame was originally green with gold decals > I had it powder coated

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2019-04-15 Thread jandrews
Ash the frame was originally green with gold decals I had it powder coated black about 5 years ago and went decal-less for most of that time until last month when I put on some over top decals. The bash guard is the Sugino one that comes on the wide/low. I also had it powder coated recently wit

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2019-04-15 Thread Ash
Looks very nice! Did not know Sam came in that color. Question: which is that black bash guard? On Monday, 15 April 2019 07:21:39 UTC-7, jandrews wrote: > > Picking up this old thread since I rebuilt the SH after pilfering most > parts off of it for the new Appaloosa build > Currently set up

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-04-06 Thread phil k
Got the new canti version in black. Should be arriving soon. Dyno light mounted on fork crown, no racks, no bags, no fenders. Drop bars with IRD power Ratchet brake levers, triple crank set up. Hetres. For more shorter rides on nicer days. If I need to carry loads, go longer distances, ride a b

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-04-06 Thread phil k
Got the new canti version in black. Should be arriving soon. Dyno light mounted on fork crown, no racks, no bags, no fenders. Drop bars with IRD power Ratchet brake levers, triple crank set up. Hetres. For more shorter rides on nicer days. If I need to carry loads or go longer distances, or rid

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-30 Thread tc
Lum, Thanks. Most of the credit for the photo goes to Mother Nature, as usual: Thin, even overcast, shot a tad less than an hour before sunset (magic hour...). The Spring green-up all around us these days makes everything look great. But I have to admit the orange tone of the Sam looks really

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-30 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Thanks Tom. Any help appreciated but certainly do not take time away from anything important! It's just that I will someday have a 58cm Sam, and will have an Acorn tall rando bag waiting for it. I will certainly measure everything numerous times, then still worry that it is right, but your

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-30 Thread tc
Lum, Thanks. Most of the credit for the photo goes to Mother Nature, as usual: Thin, even overcast, shot a tad less than an hour before sunset (magic hour...). The Spring green-up all around us these days makes everything look great. But I have to admit the orange tone of the Sam looks really

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-30 Thread tc
Bob, thanks. Love the Acorn stuff! I bought the Berthoud decaleur from Bike Touring News; they were the only ones that had the parts in stock. I will have to dig up my exact order and get back to you on the size. Tom On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 7:24:48 PM UTC-4, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > > ...

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Lum Gim Fong
tc: How did you get that pic of your Sam? I wish I could get nice color tones like that! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+un

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread R Shannon
Patrick: It’s the camera’s dirt removal filter:-) Seriously, not a new build. Alternating among three bikes helps. But yes, I keep them clean. Regards, Richard Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Nice! Thanks. I do wonder how you (all) keep your bikes

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Nice! Thanks. I do wonder how you (all) keep your bikes so clean, particularly the Atlantis. Was this photo taken just after a new build? Or perhaps it's just that photos don't show dirt? The new Ford Blue (it's a Rivendell custom road, just modifed by C Matthews) is clean because I actually clean

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Great looking bike! Because I really like the Acorn bag folks, and to keep me from buying another one myself, I will say Acorn shows at least one black tall rando bag available. I am amazed it still shows available but there it is. https://www.acornbags.com/collections/bags-currently-in-stoc

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Pretty. Won't that pump fit into that big front bag? On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:12 PM, tc wrote: > I use my 2017 58 Sam for paved greenways and roads. It's a standard > 'complete' build, except I swapped out the std Noodles for 46s, added black > cork tape, plus a kickstand. Later added an Acor

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Patrick Moore
BTW, I also like the black edition. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Nice. I draw this lesson from this great variety of Sams: If at first you > don't like a Rivendell model, wait a few years. I think that I'd probably > have kept a 55 X 57 single tt Sam that cleared 50 mm

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Nice. I draw this lesson from this great variety of Sams: If at first you don't like a Rivendell model, wait a few years. I think that I'd probably have kept a 55 X 57 single tt Sam that cleared 50 mm tires. But, Rivendell: *Don't *change the Roadeo until I categorically rule it out. It's neck-to-

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread tc
I use my 2017 58 Sam for paved greenways and roads. It's a standard 'complete' build, except I swapped out the std Noodles for 46s, added black cork tape, plus a kickstand. Later added an Acorn roll bag, and Acorn's Tall Rando bag (had to wait FOREVER for them to do a black canvas run!). Ber

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread jandrews_nyc
Here's my first generation SH which I think is the same frameset that Patrick used to have. it's 56cm with a 59 top tube and cantis. When I purchased it at Riv HQ, Kevin sold me the last green/gold they had and they were awaiting the arrival of the first shipment of orange Sams. He told me at t

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Richard; I was going to repeat my question about the differences. I would like to see photos. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:30 PM, RichS wrote: > Patrick, > > Quick summary to answer your question about the difference between the Sam > and the Atlantis: I have both. They are splendid rides

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread RichS
Patrick, Quick summary to answer your question about the difference between the Sam and the Atlantis: I have both. They are splendid rides. The ‘53 Atlantis with 26 inch wheels feels more “planted” than Sam. Turns in quickly and easily (26” wheel effect?). Super stable carrying a 20+ pound load

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Austin B.
@Patrick, the blue was a stock color up to 2016 (I have the same color). It's nice but if the 2017 Sage green been an option, I'd have gone that route. 62cm sage-for-blue trade anyone? :-) -Austin On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 11:11:56 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Tim -- nice build.

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Tim -- nice build. I had in mind another Sam, also drops, but IIRC the drops were lower. But a slate blue with cream; was that a stock color? On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Tim Bantham wrote: > Patrick, I'm not sure if mine was one that you had commented on but if so > I thank you for the comp

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Perhaps it was 56; I seem to recall it too was a 2009. At any rate, it did have a 59 tt. Single one, though, with cantis. Question: Bob, you get 47s (labeled) in your 2009. What is the actual width, and how wide a tire (actual) can this model take? Perhaps I short changed mine by sticking with the

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Austin B.
Tim, thanks for the kind words. I like yours too--it appears we have the same exact frame! I like to tinker with my builds, the Sam is so versatile so I'm constantly experimenting. I may have to pick up a pair of Barlow EL's for it--I keep hearing people like you say they're the perfect match.

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Tim Bantham
Austin, nice build! All versions of your Sam look great. Part of what makes it such an awesome bike is the many build option it allows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Austin
I'm one who's just now experimenting with upright bars for the first time--the Albastache's I picked up during the hail mary that are now on my Sam. I found experimenting with a shorter stem made things a bit more comfortable so I taped them up last night. Teal Newbaums with 1 coat of amber she

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Tim Bantham
Patrick, I'm not sure if mine was one that you had commented on but if so I thank you for the compliment. Mine was purchased in 2016. It was the version prior to the canti Sam available now. The paint on mine is a stock color. More of a light blue and cream two tone. Looks amazing in person. I

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Carla Waugh
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:20:41 PM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote: > > Here are front/rear clearance shots on my ‘09 canti Sam (56cm) with 42 > Soma Shikoros. I’ve run 47mm Marathons without issue, too. Been very > curious about the 48mm Supple Vitesse. Can anyone compare them to Shikoros? > > Al

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Carla Waugh
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:42:40 PM UTC-5, Carla Waugh wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:20:41 PM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote: >> >> Here are front/rear clearance shots on my ‘09 canti Sam (56cm) with 42 >> Soma Shikoros. I’ve run 47mm Marathons without issue, too. Been very >> cu

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread lconley
Older Sam 56 with Schwalbe Big Ben 50s. Too much inflation pressure and the front tire can rub on the center pull. This bike wanted cantis. Not quite as

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread adam leibow
the quoted clearance with the new canti sams is 47mm. i think the wtb riddler might be the perfect tire for this bike. i have a new one in sage & 58 which has been a blast and the perfect commuter. i have learned what the OP has said about straddling niches is slightly true. it's not as light/n

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Reid Echols
My canti Sam (64cm) clears 48 Soma Vitesse tires with ease, if not with fenders. I like to run it with 42-43s usually though. Currently it's a single speed with Bruce Gordon rock n' roads, a heavy duty mountain wheelset I had from another build, v-brakes, and flipped albas. Very fun for "path

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Carla Waugh
I have last years model and can’t remember how wide a tire with side pull brakes I can run. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Paul and Carla and others: Please do post Sam photos. Yes, we need a Sam's Club. Paul: If yours can take 51 m tires, then the design was indeed changed from my model. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Paul Choi wrote: > I run a 42 Panaracer Gravelking on mine (51cm) with room. I will post a > p

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Paul Choi
I run a 42 Panaracer Gravelking on mine (51cm) with room. I will post a picture later if you want. On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 7:55:32 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Also: Where are the Sam and the Atlantis different? I know that the > original Atlantis was a sort of touring/heavy duty

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Carla Waugh
My 55cm Sam is a favorite of mine because it’s just plain comfortable. I have a standard drop bar build with a EDelux light and hub combo. The reason I grab this bike almost every time is it’s versatility. I can ride on pavement, grass or light gravel with Compass tires. The parts Riv put on my

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

2018-03-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Also: Where are the Sam and the Atlantis different? I know that the original Atlantis was a sort of touring/heavy duty all rounder model and took fatter tires than the original Sam; have the designs started to converge? How fat a tire can the current Sams take? Jim's chart says 45, but perhaps tha