[RBW] Re: WTB 47-49cm Saluki or Bleriot

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Brian

Just remember a Waterford AHH in 650B is essentially the same as a Saluki 
(per the RBW literature/statements) and maybe more available since they 
were around longer.

The 650B AHH-MUSA were in 47cm and 50cm frames and the 50 has 1cm shorter 
effective TTL than a 47 (per the 2017 RBW geo charts, 53cm on the 50 and 
54cm on the 47, due to 1° slacker STA on the 47 & both have the same HTA), 
so if Reach is your concern, a 50 would be better.   There maybe more 50s 
AHH-MUSA out there than 47's. You may want to compare the geometries of the 
Saluki and 650B AHH-MUSA to confirm.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 9:16:23 PM UTC-4 bridav...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi- I'm on a quest to find 47cm Saluki or 49cm Bleriot frame set out 
> there...My PBH is 75cm. preferably old geometry & 650B set up.  I know it 
> is fat chance to find one out there, especially small sizes. Hit me up if 
> you know anyone who may have one for sale. 
>
> Thanks,
> Brian M 
> Wilmington NC 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 47-49cm Saluki or Bleriot

[J S]

I’d have no problem with a Bleriot or Saluki.  I have a Saluki now and had
a Bleriot for many years.  They ride is very similar but I prefer the
Saluki. Get whichever one pops up and both, in my size, fit 42mm tires
easily.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 7:11 PM Brian Morris  wrote:

> Hi guys-  Thanks for your inputs. Appreciate it!
>
> As from what I know, there’s 47cm Saluki Prototype (small batch hence rare
> to score) that runs on 650b wheels.  I have a 650b wheelset that I want to
> use along with 42mm tires. Hence why I prefer a 650b Riv frameset. I’m
> currently riding extra small Rawland fixed gear frameset. I used to live in
> Bay Area so I’m pretty familiarized with Rivendell and Jitensha Studio as
> well (their Ebisu frame set is gorgeous!)  I’ve rode someone’s Bleriot once
> long time ago when I lived in DC area and it was 49cm along with 650b X
> 33mm tires (tires was relatively new & popular size by then) It was
> comfortable ride.
>
> As I stated, it’s fat chance I’d find a used Riv in small sizes anyway.
> I’m hoping to score one so I can join club rides in my area. It doesn’t
> hurt to ask around. Feel free to contact me directly as well.
>
> Ride hard!
> Brian
> Wilmington NC.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 10:20:22 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I don’t trust listed standover height.  I would ask owners to measure and
>> ask what tires they have on.  My 51cm Hillborne is about 30.5 inches, a bit
>> over 75cm.  My 54cm Saluki which is at the shop presently is about the
>> same. My 55cm Bleriot was about 31” standover. Of course these measurement
>> were taken with a tape measure and are not 100% accurate.
>>
>> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 7:01:46 AM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> The 50 cm Saluki is 75.0 while the Bleriot 49 cm is 75.1 for stand over
>>> So if a 49cm Bleriot would work, so will a 50 cm Saluki.  Just hives you
>>> one more option.
>>> The 50 cm Rambouillet would also work (74.2 stand over) , but it has 559
>>> wheels, not 584 as you expressed a preference for. It will also accept 571
>>> wheels, should you want to experiment with that.
>>>
>>> Nice bikes, all. Hope you find one you like.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-5 Brian Morris wrote:
>>>
 Hi- I'm on a quest to find 47cm Saluki or 49cm Bleriot frame set out
 there...My PBH is 75cm. preferably old geometry & 650B set up.  I know it
 is fat chance to find one out there, especially small sizes. Hit me up if
 you know anyone who may have one for sale.

 Thanks,
 Brian M
 Wilmington NC

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[RBW] Re: WTB 47-49cm Saluki or Bleriot

[Brian Morris]

Hi guys-  Thanks for your inputs. Appreciate it! 

As from what I know, there’s 47cm Saluki Prototype (small batch hence rare 
to score) that runs on 650b wheels.  I have a 650b wheelset that I want to 
use along with 42mm tires. Hence why I prefer a 650b Riv frameset. I’m 
currently riding extra small Rawland fixed gear frameset. I used to live in 
Bay Area so I’m pretty familiarized with Rivendell and Jitensha Studio as 
well (their Ebisu frame set is gorgeous!)  I’ve rode someone’s Bleriot once 
long time ago when I lived in DC area and it was 49cm along with 650b X 
33mm tires (tires was relatively new & popular size by then) It was 
comfortable ride. 

As I stated, it’s fat chance I’d find a used Riv in small sizes anyway. I’m 
hoping to score one so I can join club rides in my area. It doesn’t hurt to 
ask around. Feel free to contact me directly as well. 

Ride hard!
Brian 
Wilmington NC. 


On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 10:20:22 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I don’t trust listed standover height.  I would ask owners to measure and 
> ask what tires they have on.  My 51cm Hillborne is about 30.5 inches, a bit 
> over 75cm.  My 54cm Saluki which is at the shop presently is about the 
> same. My 55cm Bleriot was about 31” standover. Of course these measurement 
> were taken with a tape measure and are not 100% accurate.  
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 7:01:46 AM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> The 50 cm Saluki is 75.0 while the Bleriot 49 cm is 75.1 for stand over  
>> So if a 49cm Bleriot would work, so will a 50 cm Saluki.  Just hives you 
>> one more option.
>> The 50 cm Rambouillet would also work (74.2 stand over) , but it has 559 
>> wheels, not 584 as you expressed a preference for. It will also accept 571 
>> wheels, should you want to experiment with that.
>>
>> Nice bikes, all. Hope you find one you like.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-5 Brian Morris wrote:
>>
>>> Hi- I'm on a quest to find 47cm Saluki or 49cm Bleriot frame set out 
>>> there...My PBH is 75cm. preferably old geometry & 650B set up.  I know it 
>>> is fat chance to find one out there, especially small sizes. Hit me up if 
>>> you know anyone who may have one for sale. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian M 
>>> Wilmington NC 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 47-49cm Saluki or Bleriot

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Brian

Have you considered an early AHH in 650B.  The 650B AHH's were the Saluki, 
according to all the RBW literature.  The Waterford AHH frames were in 2cm 
increments, so they may fit you better, if you can find them.  Can not 
remember when RBW changed the name from Saluki to AHH for the 650B's, 
2006-2007

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 9:16:23 PM UTC-4 bridav...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi- I'm on a quest to find 47cm Saluki or 49cm Bleriot frame set out 
> there...My PBH is 75cm. preferably old geometry & 650B set up.  I know it 
> is fat chance to find one out there, especially small sizes. Hit me up if 
> you know anyone who may have one for sale. 
>
> Thanks,
> Brian M 
> Wilmington NC 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 47-49cm Saluki or Bleriot

[Johnny Alien]

The SH has the expanded geometry or whatever its referred to. It like all 
modern Rivendells will have less standover on the smaller models because of 
the sloping top tube.

On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 10:20:22 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I don’t trust listed standover height.  I would ask owners to measure and 
> ask what tires they have on.  My 51cm Hillborne is about 30.5 inches, a bit 
> over 75cm.  My 54cm Saluki which is at the shop presently is about the 
> same. My 55cm Bleriot was about 31” standover. Of course these measurement 
> were taken with a tape measure and are not 100% accurate.  
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 7:01:46 AM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> The 50 cm Saluki is 75.0 while the Bleriot 49 cm is 75.1 for stand over  
>> So if a 49cm Bleriot would work, so will a 50 cm Saluki.  Just hives you 
>> one more option.
>> The 50 cm Rambouillet would also work (74.2 stand over) , but it has 559 
>> wheels, not 584 as you expressed a preference for. It will also accept 571 
>> wheels, should you want to experiment with that.
>>
>> Nice bikes, all. Hope you find one you like.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-5 Brian Morris wrote:
>>
>>> Hi- I'm on a quest to find 47cm Saluki or 49cm Bleriot frame set out 
>>> there...My PBH is 75cm. preferably old geometry & 650B set up.  I know it 
>>> is fat chance to find one out there, especially small sizes. Hit me up if 
>>> you know anyone who may have one for sale. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian M 
>>> Wilmington NC 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 47-49cm Saluki or Bleriot

[J S]

I don’t trust listed standover height.  I would ask owners to measure and 
ask what tires they have on.  My 51cm Hillborne is about 30.5 inches, a bit 
over 75cm.  My 54cm Saluki which is at the shop presently is about the 
same. My 55cm Bleriot was about 31” standover. Of course these measurement 
were taken with a tape measure and are not 100% accurate.  

On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 7:01:46 AM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote:

> The 50 cm Saluki is 75.0 while the Bleriot 49 cm is 75.1 for stand over  
> So if a 49cm Bleriot would work, so will a 50 cm Saluki.  Just hives you 
> one more option.
> The 50 cm Rambouillet would also work (74.2 stand over) , but it has 559 
> wheels, not 584 as you expressed a preference for. It will also accept 571 
> wheels, should you want to experiment with that.
>
> Nice bikes, all. Hope you find one you like.
>
> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-5 Brian Morris wrote:
>
>> Hi- I'm on a quest to find 47cm Saluki or 49cm Bleriot frame set out 
>> there...My PBH is 75cm. preferably old geometry & 650B set up.  I know it 
>> is fat chance to find one out there, especially small sizes. Hit me up if 
>> you know anyone who may have one for sale. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian M 
>> Wilmington NC 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 47-49cm Saluki or Bleriot

[Fullylugged]

The 50 cm Saluki is 75.0 while the Bleriot 49 cm is 75.1 for stand over  So 
if a 49cm Bleriot would work, so will a 50 cm Saluki.  Just hives you one 
more option.
The 50 cm Rambouillet would also work (74.2 stand over) , but it has 559 
wheels, not 584 as you expressed a preference for. It will also accept 571 
wheels, should you want to experiment with that.

Nice bikes, all. Hope you find one you like.

On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-5 Brian Morris wrote:

> Hi- I'm on a quest to find 47cm Saluki or 49cm Bleriot frame set out 
> there...My PBH is 75cm. preferably old geometry & 650B set up.  I know it 
> is fat chance to find one out there, especially small sizes. Hit me up if 
> you know anyone who may have one for sale. 
>
> Thanks,
> Brian M 
> Wilmington NC 
>

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