Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

2022-06-28 Thread lconley 
They can only drill new rims. These are NOS Australian rims, built years 
ago.

Laing

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 4:37:31 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This just in: In another thread on the iboblist, someone called Velocity 
> and confirmed that Velocity is willing to drill 36 holes in their A23 rim. 
> The context was 559/26" rims, but I daresay if they'll do it for one rim 
> they'll do it for another. Can't vouch for eyeballs.
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 10:47 AM Kevin Reinking  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing you were joking, but those painted rims would probably be a 
>> poor choice for a rim brake bike; intended for disc. really
>>
>> I've often wondered about the possibility of a 32 hole rim with 36 hole 
>> hub; figured it could be done, but I've always been able to adapt or come 
>> up with an alternative to that. I am guessing that it probably depends a 
>> lot on the type or rim used, likely one with minimal offset at the spoke 
>> holes. 
>>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:59:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole 
>>> and Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims 
>>> (like those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to 
>>> buy new hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my 
>>> Flanker Green Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but 
>>> I have to have them.
>>> [image: Yellow.JPG][image: Googlyeyes.JPG]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It 
 might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus 
 makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.


 https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/

 If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, 
 rim-brake 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:

 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but 
 my digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).

 But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or 
 lighter.

 Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

2022-06-21 Thread Ryan 
They would indeed! and not just because of the color scheme. I'm thinking 
of Leah's new riding buddies...eyes agog when she first rocked that racing 
Platypus Those rims make a statement allright. 

They'd look nice on her blue Clem as wellbut not sure how long they'd 
last with rim brakes. Fun rims though

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 12:12:26 PM UTC-5 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Oooh, those eyeball rims would look wicked on Leah's raspberry Platypus!
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2022, at 12:48, Kevin Reinking  wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you were joking, but those painted rims would probably be a 
> poor choice for a rim brake bike; intended for disc. really
>
>
> I've often wondered about the possibility of a 32 hole rim with 36 hole 
> hub; figured it could be done, but I've always been able to adapt or come 
> up with an alternative to that. I am guessing that it probably depends a 
> lot on the type or rim used, likely one with minimal offset at the spoke 
> holes. 
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:59:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole 
>> and Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims 
>> (like those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to 
>> buy new hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my 
>> Flanker Green Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but 
>> I have to have them.
>> [image: Yellow.JPG][image: Googlyeyes.JPG]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It 
>>> might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus 
>>> makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/
>>>
>>> If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake 
>>> 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:
>>>
>>> 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
>>> 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my 
>>> digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).
>>>
>>> But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or 
>>> lighter.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

2022-06-21 Thread Patrick Moore 
This just in: In another thread on the iboblist, someone called Velocity
and confirmed that Velocity is willing to drill 36 holes in their A23 rim.
The context was 559/26" rims, but I daresay if they'll do it for one rim
they'll do it for another. Can't vouch for eyeballs.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 10:47 AM Kevin Reinking 
wrote:

> I'm guessing you were joking, but those painted rims would probably be a
> poor choice for a rim brake bike; intended for disc. really
>
> I've often wondered about the possibility of a 32 hole rim with 36 hole
> hub; figured it could be done, but I've always been able to adapt or come
> up with an alternative to that. I am guessing that it probably depends a
> lot on the type or rim used, likely one with minimal offset at the spoke
> holes.
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:59:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole
>> and Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims
>> (like those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to
>> buy new hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my
>> Flanker Green Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but
>> I have to have them.
>> [image: Yellow.JPG][image: Googlyeyes.JPG]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It
>>> might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus
>>> makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/
>>>
>>> If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake
>>> 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:
>>>
>>> 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
>>> 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my
>>> digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).
>>>
>>> But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or
>>> lighter.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

2022-06-21 Thread esoterica etc 

Oooh, those eyeball rims would look wicked on Leah's raspberry Platypus!

~Mark
Raleigh, NC


> On Jun 21, 2022, at 12:48, Kevin Reinking  wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing you were joking, but those painted rims would probably be a 
> poor choice for a rim brake bike; intended for disc. really
> 
> I've often wondered about the possibility of a 32 hole rim with 36 hole hub; 
> figured it could be done, but I've always been able to adapt or come up with 
> an alternative to that. I am guessing that it probably depends a lot on the 
> type or rim used, likely one with minimal offset at the spoke holes. 
> 
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:59:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>> Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole and 
>> Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims (like 
>> those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to buy new 
>> hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my Flanker Green 
>> Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but I have to have 
>> them.
>> 
>> 
>> Laing
>> 
>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>> Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It 
>>> might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus 
>>> makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.
>>> 
>>> https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/
>>> 
>>> If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake 
>>> 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:
>>> 
>>> 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
>>> 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my 
>>> digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).
>>> 
>>> But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or 
>>> lighter.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>> 
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

2022-06-21 Thread Kevin Reinking 
I'm guessing you were joking, but those painted rims would probably be a 
poor choice for a rim brake bike; intended for disc. really

I've often wondered about the possibility of a 32 hole rim with 36 hole 
hub; figured it could be done, but I've always been able to adapt or come 
up with an alternative to that. I am guessing that it probably depends a 
lot on the type or rim used, likely one with minimal offset at the spoke 
holes. 

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 2:59:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole 
> and Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims 
> (like those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to 
> buy new hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my 
> Flanker Green Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but 
> I have to have them.
> [image: Yellow.JPG][image: Googlyeyes.JPG]
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It 
>> might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus 
>> makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.
>>
>>
>> https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/
>>
>> If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake 
>> 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:
>>
>> 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
>> 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my 
>> digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).
>>
>> But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or 
>> lighter.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

2022-06-20 Thread Peter Adler 
But are they faster? Or do they actually slow you down, what with looking 
around as you ride? I mean, it's scientifically proven that orange frames 
are fastest*; has anyone done statistical analysis of which rim finishes 
are fastest? There's no other plausible explanation for the near-total 
replacement of silver rims with black rims.

* by Doctor Bicycle Science, who knows *more* than you do; he has a 
master's degree - in Bicycle Science!

Peter Adler
hunting for Duck's Breath Mystery Theatre streams in
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:03:33 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Any life lived in the absence of eye-ball patterned rims is a life 
> WASTED.  That's just an objective fact.  

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[RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

2022-06-20 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Any life lived in the absence of eye-ball patterned rims is a life WASTED.  
That's just an objective fact.  

BL in EC

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:59:40 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole 
> and Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims 
> (like those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to 
> buy new hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my 
> Flanker Green Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but 
> I have to have them.
> [image: Yellow.JPG][image: Googlyeyes.JPG]
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It 
>> might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus 
>> makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.
>>
>>
>> https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/
>>
>> If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake 
>> 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:
>>
>> 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
>> 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my 
>> digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).
>>
>> But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or 
>> lighter.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

2022-06-20 Thread lconley 
Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole and 
Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims (like 
those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to buy new 
hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my Flanker 
Green Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but I have 
to have them.
[image: Yellow.JPG][image: Googlyeyes.JPG]

Laing

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It 
> might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus 
> makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.
>
>
> https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/
>
> If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake 
> 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:
>
> 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
> 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my 
> digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).
>
> But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or 
> lighter.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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