Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
B.17s stopped working for me a couple of years ago and I switched to Berthoud Aspins. I can't help with the "fore-aft hump" because my saddles never developed ridges like that, but for sure the Berthoud leather is much thicker and sturdier, and does not sag the way B.17s do. On 10/16/2016 03:42 PM, Don Compton wrote: I've been a Rivendell fan for years having owned 4 different bikes. I used B-17 saddles for years, but with wear, as the area under my sit bones would settle, the hump in the saddle( running for-aft) would cause extreme discomfort. I just had to give up on Brooks. I have been using a Secialized Phenom for about a year, but it's not so great on longer rides like I remember my Brooks in the early years of ownership. Has anyone with issues similar to mine switched over to a Berthoud saddle and felt some improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
I have had a Berthoud touring saddle on my Homer for nearly 3 years. I think it's extremely comfortable with drop bars at approximately saddle height. As others have said, it does not stretch out like the non-Select Brooks saddles - in my experience, the Berthoud and the Brooks Select saddles break in similarly. One thing about the Berthouds - the proprietary 2.5 mm Allen head bolt/washer combos that attach the leather to the frame (the Berthoud equivalent of the Brooks rivets) can come unscrewed. They need to be checked periodically. Maybe a little Loctite would solve the problem, but I'm too lazy to try it, I just tighten them up from time to time. Also, as others have said, the Berthouds have a mount for a Berthoud Klik-Fix saddlebag connector, which is an extremely convenient and easy on/off way to mount a Berthoud saddlebag. I use it on my Hilsen, and really like it; bag comes off in a second with the push of one button on the mount. You can see the Klik-Fix mount between my Berthoud small saddlebag and the Berthoud saddle here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/9019678419/in/set-72157627914355388/ Finally, someone mentioned a concern about the load capacity if you hang a saddlebag from the loop-equivalents that are molded into the plastic frame. I have hung a pretty heavily loaded Medium Saddlesack off those loops, with no problems. The plastic is described as very high strength in Berthoud's marketing materials (for what that's worth). Oh, and at least to my taste, the Berthoud saddles are gorgeous. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deacon Patrick Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:07 AM To: Rivendell Owners Rivendell Owners Group Subject: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.orghttp://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.orghttp://www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
Since i have a captive berthoud audience, i've worn the color off the nose of my berthoud (i wear jeans a lot while riding), anyone else done the same? anything i should do to treat it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
On 04/03/2014 11:05 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: I have had a Berthoud touring saddle on my Homer for nearly 3 years. I think it's extremely comfortable with drop bars at approximately saddle height. As others have said, it does not stretch out like the non-Select Brooks saddles -- in my experience, the Berthoud and the Brooks Select saddles break in similarly. One thing about the Berthouds -- the proprietary 2.5 mm Allen head bolt/washer combos that attach the leather to the frame (the Berthoud equivalent of the Brooks rivets) */can /* come unscrewed. They need to be checked periodically. Maybe a little Loctite would solve the problem, but I'm too lazy to try it, I just tighten them up from time to time. One of mine did that, and I blue-locktited it and nothing's ever come loose since. The other two didn't loosen at all. Also, as others have said, the Berthouds have a mount for a Berthoud Klik-Fix saddlebag connector, which is an extremely convenient and easy on/off way to mount a Berthoud saddlebag. I use it on my Hilsen, and really like it; bag comes off in a second with the push of one button on the mount. You can see the Klik-Fix mount between my Berthoud small saddlebag and the Berthoud saddle here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/9019678419/in/set-72157627914355388/ Finally, someone mentioned a concern about the load capacity if you hang a saddlebag from the loop-equivalents that are molded into the plastic frame. I have hung a pretty heavily loaded Medium Saddlesack off those loops, with no problems. The plastic is described as very high strength in Berthoud's marketing materials (for what that's worth). I've seen how Tom Allingham loads a seat bag. When he says heavily loaded you can be sure, he means it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
;-) From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 5:01 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles On 04/03/2014 11:05 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: I have had a Berthoud touring saddle on my Homer for nearly 3 years. I think it's extremely comfortable with drop bars at approximately saddle height. As others have said, it does not stretch out like the non-Select Brooks saddles - in my experience, the Berthoud and the Brooks Select saddles break in similarly. One thing about the Berthouds - the proprietary 2.5 mm Allen head bolt/washer combos that attach the leather to the frame (the Berthoud equivalent of the Brooks rivets) can come unscrewed. They need to be checked periodically. Maybe a little Loctite would solve the problem, but I'm too lazy to try it, I just tighten them up from time to time. One of mine did that, and I blue-locktited it and nothing's ever come loose since. The other two didn't loosen at all. Also, as others have said, the Berthouds have a mount for a Berthoud Klik-Fix saddlebag connector, which is an extremely convenient and easy on/off way to mount a Berthoud saddlebag. I use it on my Hilsen, and really like it; bag comes off in a second with the push of one button on the mount. You can see the Klik-Fix mount between my Berthoud small saddlebag and the Berthoud saddle here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/9019678419/in/set-72157627914355388/ Finally, someone mentioned a concern about the load capacity if you hang a saddlebag from the loop-equivalents that are molded into the plastic frame. I have hung a pretty heavily loaded Medium Saddlesack off those loops, with no problems. The plastic is described as very high strength in Berthoud's marketing materials (for what that's worth). I've seen how Tom Allingham loads a seat bag. When he says heavily loaded you can be sure, he means it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
cons for me: narrower than a B17 standard, hard as a rock and stubborn break in pros: easily replacable top cover, seems well made Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/533bfb358fb017b355ff9st04duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
The Lovely Bicycle blog has a few articles about Berthoud saddles. Here's one. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/01/gilles-berthoud-saddles-something.html?m=1 I considered, but did not try the less expensive Berthoud Menthe, and a model from Rivet before ordering and being very pleased with a Brooks Cambium. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
This might be an odd observation but I found that Berthoud Saddles are more slippery than Brooks. I ended up not preferring Brooks Jason On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
Thanks, Jason. Could you please tell my what you mean, what you experienced with the more slippery Berthoud and why you prefer it to the Brooks? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:23:18 PM UTC-6, JL wrote: This might be an odd observation but I found that Berthoud Saddles are more slippery than Brooks. I ended up not preferring Brooks Jason On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
