B.17s stopped working for me a couple of years ago and I switched to Berthoud Aspins. I can't help with the "fore-aft hump" because my saddles never developed ridges like that, but for sure the Berthoud leather is much thicker and sturdier, and does not sag the way B.17s do.

On 10/16/2016 03:42 PM, Don Compton wrote:
I've been a Rivendell fan for years having owned 4 different bikes. I used B-17 saddles for years, but with wear, as the area under my sit bones would settle, the hump in the saddle( running for-aft) would cause extreme discomfort. I just had to give up on Brooks. I have been using a Secialized Phenom for about a year, but it's not so great on longer rides like I remember my Brooks in the early years of ownership. Has anyone with issues similar to mine switched over to a Berthoud saddle and felt some improvement?

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