Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[Leah Peterson]

Thanks, Mark! I see the resemblance between those bikes.

Meanwhile, older son wants his old Boscos moved over from his grilver bike to 
his big blue bike. I went on Riv’s website to order new (non-moosey) Boscos and 
found these “Baby Boscos.” 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/handlebars/products/etww326etkah332kfak

I’m thinking these will be perfect for my littler son on the grilver Clem. Has 
anyone else used these? I didn’t even know they existed until now. I’d go out 
with the tape measure and try to imagine how they will look but we’re in Utah 
for the weekend. 

I ordered them, and now I just need to choose a stem (don’t know what size to 
order - maybe 70 mm reach???). I’ll post pics of the Baby Boscos when I get 
them on the bike.

More on that later; I’m going white water rafting now!
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
> 
> 
> You have a couple of handsome fellas there, BBDD. They are blessed to have an 
> active mom who loves bicycling and shares that joy.
> 
> The shot of the beautiful 45cm Clem is so reminiscent of a bicycle I am 
> selling right now. It is such a cool bike, I am first trying to find a friend 
> who needs a bike--double butted 4130 frame that can take monster size tires, 
> long wheelbase, triple crank, accepts fenders and racks, upright bars. 
> Admittedly a bit slacker in the head tube! It's definitely a Hillibike, 
> kid-sized (seat high so I could ride it)!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 1:26:43 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrotClem photos
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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[Roberta]

Love it!  Nail polished or painted lug work, with the "it's OK to use nail 
polish" of the group would allow his artistic side to come out on his bike.

The honey accents look good on both the grilver and the blue.

Roberta

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Ding! wrote:
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> And this, for living color.
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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[Joe Bernard]

I hope E comes to realize how COOL that blue is. I think it's my favorite 
Clem color, and that Select almost-honey-now saddle looks great on it. 
That's a nice bike!

Joe Bernard 
On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 10:26:43 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Clem photos.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> In 2018, my older son, E, was gifted a 45 cm grilver Clem H by someone on 
> this list, who wishes to remain anonymous. You can read about it in the 
> link below.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/qrKUcYAQetM
>
> Anyway, E was very proud of his Rivendell (an outrageously nice bicycle 
> for a 7th grader) and very sad that one day he would outgrow it. 
> Conveniently, he grew slowly though his peers shot up, but that kid hit a 5 
> inch growth spurt this summer and he’s now looking me in the eye and 
> threatening to keep growing. Today, I pulled my husband’s cast-off 2015 52 
> Clem H from the storage room and had E try it out. It fits. Not that he is 
> happy about this - he was attached to his bike. He’s pointed out that the 
> blue Clem doesn’t have “cream in the windows” (lugwork...should I let him 
> take after it with nail polish?) and it isn’t grilver and it “doesn’t look 
> as cool.” But once we got his saddle and his bags strung up, he’s warming. 
> The Bosco Bullmoose have got to go; he’s emphatic that the triangulation 
> messes up the way he had his bags. This will mean new grips, stem and bars. 
> 
>
> Well, what does this mean for Baby Bear? Baby Bear finally gets the 
> grilver Clem! He’s been riding a Specialized Hotrock (handed down from E) 
> and he was fond of pointing out, “It’s a fellowship of Rivendells...and a 
> hobbit.” We wheeled out the 45 Clem and Baby Bear tried it out. He can’t 
> quite stand over it (hobbits ), but he’s close. He rode the Clem up and 
> down the street and couldn’t believe how different it felt. When he parked 
> the bike he pointed to the friction thumb shifters and asked, “What are 
> these?” 
>
> Baby Bear is my cautious kid and he’s elected to keep riding his Hotrock 
> for now because the dismount on the Clem unnerves him. We’re stripping the 
> “E” from the little Clem so it will be a blank canvas for the hobbit when 
> he decides to finally ride it. We’ll keep the rack and basket (Baby Bear 
> wants them) and the saddle will be the original Clem saddle because it’s 
> lightweight compared to the sprung Brooks I have laying in the bin. 
>
> The new platform is preventing my photos from going through, so I’ll try 
> in a comment to this post.
>
> Goodnight,
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ben, I truly was grateful that that option was no longer available, though 
reading it now I see how it could sound miffed or bummed. I am neither, and 
even if the case had been that I did decide to buy it and it was gone, I am 
a firm believer in "you snooze, you lose!" especially if you went ahead and 
wrote about it on the internets!

I've been a bit hectic, but I will do a follow-up post with my current 
plans shortly.

On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 12:49:32 PM UTC-5, BenG wrote:
>
> Mark,
> I felt like an ass when it dawned on me that I had purchased the very 
> frame you introduced to discussion.  I can be awkward and slow that way. 
> When I saw some 45's with white trim become available, I called Vince and 
> changed our order. I love that white trim!  So if you have interest, there 
> may be a 45 Blementine available again.
> ben

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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[EGNolan]

>
> My 7 year old has been riding a 24" wheeled Giant mtn bike for a coupla 
> years. I had a buddy that was sponsored by Fairdale bikes & they sent him a 
> small instead of medium Weekender 
>  
> to race cyclocross. Rather than send it back he gave it to me for my son. 
> It's made for 700c, but since it's disc I can put 26" wheels on it w/ 
> shorter than normal cranks. It fits him well with a short stem & swept 
> bars. Jim Thill did the same thing w/ a Surly Straggler 
> . 
>  I think if you're investing in a bike for a child & want them to be able 
> to grow with it, a sloping top tube or mixte frame is a necessity & disc 
> wheels make it easier, but those small Clem/entines look like they would 
> work well.


Best,
Eric
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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[BenG]

Mark,
I felt like an ass when it dawned on me that I had purchased the very frame you 
introduced to discussion.  I can be awkward and slow that way. When I saw some 
45's with white trim become available, I called Vince and changed our order. I 
love that white trim!  So if you have interest, there may be a 45 Blementine 
available again.
ben

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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well there you go, made my decision for me. I'm sure your daughter will 
love her Clementine. When she's done gnarring, she can go shopping with it. 
And one day possibly pass it to her daughter.

 I think I will stop projecting ahead and wait till my son's legs grow a 
bit  longer before I indulge in any more bike shopping on his behalf. Funny 
story-- six and change years ago, two nurses were looking at a sonogram of 
my son and Ioverheard a snippet of their conversation. "What was that?" I 
said. "Oh, we were just commenting that he has unusually long femur bones." 
My first proud papa moment!

On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-5, BenG wrote:
>
> At the other end of the "kid" spectrum, I just bought a black 45cm 
> Clementine blem frame. My 23 yr old daughter and I will transfer components 
> from her '87 Schwinn Sierra ( BB too high ) to make this into her Boss 
> Clementine mountain bike. Gnar, etc.

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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[BenG]

At the other end of the "kid" spectrum, I just bought a black 45cm Clementine 
blem frame. My 23 yr old daughter and I will transfer components from her '87 
Schwinn Sierra ( BB too high ) to make this into her Boss Clementine mountain 
bike. Gnar, etc.

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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[David Banzer]

My son's even further off from riding a 26" bike - well, he can't walk yet, 
so many years before he'll be riding a full-sized bike. I realized I was 
crazy wanting to buy the CL Clem and putting it in a closet for who knows 
how many years.
David
Chicago

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 8:59:16 PM UTC-6, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Nice job, Erl, looks like a fun bike! Thanks everyone for the feedback. I 
> do have a bicycle tucked away in a closet that I bought for him off the Bob 
> list a while back that uses 26" wheels. My vague plan was/is to buy a small 
> Clem and build it up with the parts from this bike, but I guess I should 
> unpack it and get a better sense of what I already have and how far off he 
> is before I buy another bike for either of us...who knows, by then he may 
> be into ax throwing or surfing and not even want a bike.
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 2:34:44 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>> When my youngest son was almost 10 years old and about 55" inches tall 
>> (he is less than 50th percentile for height), I put him on an old mountain 
>> bike frame-44cm- that was his mother's bike.  It, however, is a 700c wheel 
>> frame.  I spray painted it his favorite colors, put some sweptback bars 
>> (soma sparrow I think) on it, and he loves it.  Photos are here: 
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsjXAzZVW and here https://flic.kr/p/o47xfw and here 
>> https://flic.kr/p/o48fZW
>>
>> He had a bit of adjustment to handling a bigger bike and bigger wheels, 
>> but he learned quickly.  As he had become frustrated trying to keep up with 
>> the family on his 20" wheel bike, he was excited with the upgrade. 
>>
>> Best wishes and family riding is a blast!
>> Erl
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:26:52 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, since I have a Clementine, and he's generally pretty sophisticated 
>>> about bikes, and it is black, just like mine, I think I will be okay with 
>>> that part. But it did cross my mind (and the high top one on CL is $200 
>>> less than the low at Riv!)
>>>
>>> Anybody else have an age when their child was okay on a small framed 26" 
>>> wheeled bicycle?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:

 Probably it's not a big deal since you ride a mixte, but I would make 
 darn sure my boy would ride a "girl's bike" before I'd spend that kind of 
 money on a Clementine.

 Eric
 who had a Cheviot, so don't take that "girl's bike" thing the wrong way

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
  wrote:

> The PSA about the 45cm Clem got me thinking. I am tempted to buy it 
> for my little guy, but a Clementine would make more sense, since the high 
> bar version requires a minimum of 73cm PBH, while the low will 
> accommodate 
> a 67cm PBH. Then I noticed that Riv is selling a blemished black 45cm 
> Clementine. The other cool thing is it would be an exact match to my 
> black 
> 52cm. (The CL bike is $200 less, though.)
>
> It would be a big stretch for me financially, but if I could put it 
> into use within 2 years (and maybe lend it to a shorter friend meanwhile) 
> it might make sense, especially since I have most if not all parts lying 
> around. 
>
> I know some folks have bought Clems for their kids. Just wondering 
> what the youngest age/size is among the junior Clemmers? My guy is 6 
> years 
> old, in the 97th percent for height at 50", will measure his PBH tonight. 
> He currently rides a 20" Hotrocks. Getting him on a great-riding bike 
> like 
> the Clem at an early age would be wonderful. But realistically it could 
> be 
> another 4-5 years I suppose? Also curious if any of the Roscoes, which 
> was 
> originally concocted to designate a children's model, might be made in 
> extra wee sizes.
>
> Any thoughts appreciated.
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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice job, Erl, looks like a fun bike! Thanks everyone for the feedback. I 
do have a bicycle tucked away in a closet that I bought for him off the Bob 
list a while back that uses 26" wheels. My vague plan was/is to buy a small 
Clem and build it up with the parts from this bike, but I guess I should 
unpack it and get a better sense of what I already have and how far off he 
is before I buy another bike for either of us...who knows, by then he may 
be into ax throwing or surfing and not even want a bike.

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 2:34:44 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Mark,
> When my youngest son was almost 10 years old and about 55" inches tall (he 
> is less than 50th percentile for height), I put him on an old mountain bike 
> frame-44cm- that was his mother's bike.  It, however, is a 700c wheel 
> frame.  I spray painted it his favorite colors, put some sweptback bars 
> (soma sparrow I think) on it, and he loves it.  Photos are here: 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsjXAzZVW and here https://flic.kr/p/o47xfw and here 
> https://flic.kr/p/o48fZW
>
> He had a bit of adjustment to handling a bigger bike and bigger wheels, 
> but he learned quickly.  As he had become frustrated trying to keep up with 
> the family on his 20" wheel bike, he was excited with the upgrade. 
>
> Best wishes and family riding is a blast!
> Erl
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:26:52 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Well, since I have a Clementine, and he's generally pretty sophisticated 
>> about bikes, and it is black, just like mine, I think I will be okay with 
>> that part. But it did cross my mind (and the high top one on CL is $200 
>> less than the low at Riv!)
>>
>> Anybody else have an age when their child was okay on a small framed 26" 
>> wheeled bicycle?
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably it's not a big deal since you ride a mixte, but I would make 
>>> darn sure my boy would ride a "girl's bike" before I'd spend that kind of 
>>> money on a Clementine.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> who had a Cheviot, so don't take that "girl's bike" thing the wrong way
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 The PSA about the 45cm Clem got me thinking. I am tempted to buy it for 
 my little guy, but a Clementine would make more sense, since the high bar 
 version requires a minimum of 73cm PBH, while the low will accommodate a 
 67cm PBH. Then I noticed that Riv is selling a blemished black 45cm 
 Clementine. The other cool thing is it would be an exact match to my black 
 52cm. (The CL bike is $200 less, though.)

 It would be a big stretch for me financially, but if I could put it 
 into use within 2 years (and maybe lend it to a shorter friend meanwhile) 
 it might make sense, especially since I have most if not all parts lying 
 around. 

 I know some folks have bought Clems for their kids. Just wondering what 
 the youngest age/size is among the junior Clemmers? My guy is 6 years old, 
 in the 97th percent for height at 50", will measure his PBH tonight. He 
 currently rides a 20" Hotrocks. Getting him on a great-riding bike like 
 the 
 Clem at an early age would be wonderful. But realistically it could be 
 another 4-5 years I suppose? Also curious if any of the Roscoes, which was 
 originally concocted to designate a children's model, might be made in 
 extra wee sizes.

 Any thoughts appreciated.

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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[WETH]

Edwin,
Awesome photos! The kids look so happy!
Jets? No, but I am not sure where the Cromartie jersey came from.  He is 
actually a Green Bay Packer's fan hence the green and yellow pain scheme on 
his bike.
Good work on the Clem!
Erl

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 4:34:21 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Erl,
>
> Forget the bike, is that a Jets fan riding it??? 
>
> I got a Clem for my oldest son. He is almost 10 and just barely fits on 
> the the small one.
> Here are some pics.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/albums/72157661094042625
>
> There aren't many great, practical bikes for this size kid out there, save 
> for Islabikes, which seem great. I keep undershooting (with cheap finds on 
> CL) or overshooting (with the CLEM) and haven't got an Islabike yet. Now I 
> have kids bikes with 26, 24, 20, 16, and 12 inch wheels, so I think I am 
> kind of set. 
>
> My main justification is that three kids will ride this Clem on their way 
> from 24" bikes to a bigger bike, plus my wife can ride it even if it is a 
> bit small, and so can other guests. I bet my mom will ride it when she is 
> down here in a few weeks.
>
> Does that help? I can't imagine how it would. What was the original 
> question?
>
> Gang greening it,
>
> Edwin
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:34:44 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>> When my youngest son was almost 10 years old and about 55" inches tall 
>> (he is less than 50th percentile for height), I put him on an old mountain 
>> bike frame-44cm- that was his mother's bike.  It, however, is a 700c wheel 
>> frame.  I spray painted it his favorite colors, put some sweptback bars 
>> (soma sparrow I think) on it, and he loves it.  Photos are here: 
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsjXAzZVW and here https://flic.kr/p/o47xfw and here 
>> https://flic.kr/p/o48fZW
>>
>> He had a bit of adjustment to handling a bigger bike and bigger wheels, 
>> but he learned quickly.  As he had become frustrated trying to keep up with 
>> the family on his 20" wheel bike, he was excited with the upgrade. 
>>
>> Best wishes and family riding is a blast!
>> Erl
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:26:52 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, since I have a Clementine, and he's generally pretty sophisticated 
>>> about bikes, and it is black, just like mine, I think I will be okay with 
>>> that part. But it did cross my mind (and the high top one on CL is $200 
>>> less than the low at Riv!)
>>>
>>> Anybody else have an age when their child was okay on a small framed 26" 
>>> wheeled bicycle?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:

 Probably it's not a big deal since you ride a mixte, but I would make 
 darn sure my boy would ride a "girl's bike" before I'd spend that kind of 
 money on a Clementine.

 Eric
 who had a Cheviot, so don't take that "girl's bike" thing the wrong way

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
  wrote:

> The PSA about the 45cm Clem got me thinking. I am tempted to buy it 
> for my little guy, but a Clementine would make more sense, since the high 
> bar version requires a minimum of 73cm PBH, while the low will 
> accommodate 
> a 67cm PBH. Then I noticed that Riv is selling a blemished black 45cm 
> Clementine. The other cool thing is it would be an exact match to my 
> black 
> 52cm. (The CL bike is $200 less, though.)
>
> It would be a big stretch for me financially, but if I could put it 
> into use within 2 years (and maybe lend it to a shorter friend meanwhile) 
> it might make sense, especially since I have most if not all parts lying 
> around. 
>
> I know some folks have bought Clems for their kids. Just wondering 
> what the youngest age/size is among the junior Clemmers? My guy is 6 
> years 
> old, in the 97th percent for height at 50", will measure his PBH tonight. 
> He currently rides a 20" Hotrocks. Getting him on a great-riding bike 
> like 
> the Clem at an early age would be wonderful. But realistically it could 
> be 
> another 4-5 years I suppose? Also curious if any of the Roscoes, which 
> was 
> originally concocted to designate a children's model, might be made in 
> extra wee sizes.
>
> Any thoughts appreciated.
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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[Edwin W]

Erl,

Forget the bike, is that a Jets fan riding it??? 

I got a Clem for my oldest son. He is almost 10 and just barely fits on the 
the small one.
Here are some pics.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/albums/72157661094042625

There aren't many great, practical bikes for this size kid out there, save 
for Islabikes, which seem great. I keep undershooting (with cheap finds on 
CL) or overshooting (with the CLEM) and haven't got an Islabike yet. Now I 
have kids bikes with 26, 24, 20, 16, and 12 inch wheels, so I think I am 
kind of set. 

My main justification is that three kids will ride this Clem on their way 
from 24" bikes to a bigger bike, plus my wife can ride it even if it is a 
bit small, and so can other guests. I bet my mom will ride it when she is 
down here in a few weeks.

Does that help? I can't imagine how it would. What was the original 
question?

Gang greening it,

Edwin

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:34:44 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>
> Mark,
> When my youngest son was almost 10 years old and about 55" inches tall (he 
> is less than 50th percentile for height), I put him on an old mountain bike 
> frame-44cm- that was his mother's bike.  It, however, is a 700c wheel 
> frame.  I spray painted it his favorite colors, put some sweptback bars 
> (soma sparrow I think) on it, and he loves it.  Photos are here: 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsjXAzZVW and here https://flic.kr/p/o47xfw and here 
> https://flic.kr/p/o48fZW
>
> He had a bit of adjustment to handling a bigger bike and bigger wheels, 
> but he learned quickly.  As he had become frustrated trying to keep up with 
> the family on his 20" wheel bike, he was excited with the upgrade. 
>
> Best wishes and family riding is a blast!
> Erl
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:26:52 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Well, since I have a Clementine, and he's generally pretty sophisticated 
>> about bikes, and it is black, just like mine, I think I will be okay with 
>> that part. But it did cross my mind (and the high top one on CL is $200 
>> less than the low at Riv!)
>>
>> Anybody else have an age when their child was okay on a small framed 26" 
>> wheeled bicycle?
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably it's not a big deal since you ride a mixte, but I would make 
>>> darn sure my boy would ride a "girl's bike" before I'd spend that kind of 
>>> money on a Clementine.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> who had a Cheviot, so don't take that "girl's bike" thing the wrong way
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 The PSA about the 45cm Clem got me thinking. I am tempted to buy it for 
 my little guy, but a Clementine would make more sense, since the high bar 
 version requires a minimum of 73cm PBH, while the low will accommodate a 
 67cm PBH. Then I noticed that Riv is selling a blemished black 45cm 
 Clementine. The other cool thing is it would be an exact match to my black 
 52cm. (The CL bike is $200 less, though.)

 It would be a big stretch for me financially, but if I could put it 
 into use within 2 years (and maybe lend it to a shorter friend meanwhile) 
 it might make sense, especially since I have most if not all parts lying 
 around. 

 I know some folks have bought Clems for their kids. Just wondering what 
 the youngest age/size is among the junior Clemmers? My guy is 6 years old, 
 in the 97th percent for height at 50", will measure his PBH tonight. He 
 currently rides a 20" Hotrocks. Getting him on a great-riding bike like 
 the 
 Clem at an early age would be wonderful. But realistically it could be 
 another 4-5 years I suppose? Also curious if any of the Roscoes, which was 
 originally concocted to designate a children's model, might be made in 
 extra wee sizes.

 Any thoughts appreciated.

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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[islaysteve]

Nice inventive build and paint job, Erl.  Looks like the old Lotus automobile 
colors.  He does look like he enjoys the bike!

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[WETH]

Mark,
When my youngest son was almost 10 years old and about 55" inches tall (he 
is less than 50th percentile for height), I put him on an old mountain bike 
frame-44cm- that was his mother's bike.  It, however, is a 700c wheel 
frame.  I spray painted it his favorite colors, put some sweptback bars 
(soma sparrow I think) on it, and he loves it.  Photos are 
here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjXAzZVW and here https://flic.kr/p/o47xfw and 
here https://flic.kr/p/o48fZW

He had a bit of adjustment to handling a bigger bike and bigger wheels, but 
he learned quickly.  As he had become frustrated trying to keep up with the 
family on his 20" wheel bike, he was excited with the upgrade. 

Best wishes and family riding is a blast!
Erl

On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:26:52 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Well, since I have a Clementine, and he's generally pretty sophisticated 
> about bikes, and it is black, just like mine, I think I will be okay with 
> that part. But it did cross my mind (and the high top one on CL is $200 
> less than the low at Riv!)
>
> Anybody else have an age when their child was okay on a small framed 26" 
> wheeled bicycle?
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> Probably it's not a big deal since you ride a mixte, but I would make 
>> darn sure my boy would ride a "girl's bike" before I'd spend that kind of 
>> money on a Clementine.
>>
>> Eric
>> who had a Cheviot, so don't take that "girl's bike" thing the wrong way
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The PSA about the 45cm Clem got me thinking. I am tempted to buy it for 
>>> my little guy, but a Clementine would make more sense, since the high bar 
>>> version requires a minimum of 73cm PBH, while the low will accommodate a 
>>> 67cm PBH. Then I noticed that Riv is selling a blemished black 45cm 
>>> Clementine. The other cool thing is it would be an exact match to my black 
>>> 52cm. (The CL bike is $200 less, though.)
>>>
>>> It would be a big stretch for me financially, but if I could put it into 
>>> use within 2 years (and maybe lend it to a shorter friend meanwhile) it 
>>> might make sense, especially since I have most if not all parts lying 
>>> around. 
>>>
>>> I know some folks have bought Clems for their kids. Just wondering what 
>>> the youngest age/size is among the junior Clemmers? My guy is 6 years old, 
>>> in the 97th percent for height at 50", will measure his PBH tonight. He 
>>> currently rides a 20" Hotrocks. Getting him on a great-riding bike like the 
>>> Clem at an early age would be wonderful. But realistically it could be 
>>> another 4-5 years I suppose? Also curious if any of the Roscoes, which was 
>>> originally concocted to designate a children's model, might be made in 
>>> extra wee sizes.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts appreciated.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[masmojo]

I bought a small Clementine that I expect will ultimately be my daughters,  
she's a few years off from being able to ride it but it's ideal for my son now 
& if my wife decides she would like to ride, she would fit it perfectly.  I 
haven't worried too much about a bike for my son(he has his little Stingray), 
because he can ride the Clementine now, will ultimately be about my height and 
should then be able to ride anything in my bike quiver! LOL

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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well, since I have a Clementine, and he's generally pretty sophisticated 
about bikes, and it is black, just like mine, I think I will be okay with 
that part. But it did cross my mind (and the high top one on CL is $200 
less than the low at Riv!)

Anybody else have an age when their child was okay on a small framed 26" 
wheeled bicycle?


On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> Probably it's not a big deal since you ride a mixte, but I would make darn 
> sure my boy would ride a "girl's bike" before I'd spend that kind of money 
> on a Clementine.
>
> Eric
> who had a Cheviot, so don't take that "girl's bike" thing the wrong way
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> The PSA about the 45cm Clem got me thinking. I am tempted to buy it for 
>> my little guy, but a Clementine would make more sense, since the high bar 
>> version requires a minimum of 73cm PBH, while the low will accommodate a 
>> 67cm PBH. Then I noticed that Riv is selling a blemished black 45cm 
>> Clementine. The other cool thing is it would be an exact match to my black 
>> 52cm. (The CL bike is $200 less, though.)
>>
>> It would be a big stretch for me financially, but if I could put it into 
>> use within 2 years (and maybe lend it to a shorter friend meanwhile) it 
>> might make sense, especially since I have most if not all parts lying 
>> around. 
>>
>> I know some folks have bought Clems for their kids. Just wondering what 
>> the youngest age/size is among the junior Clemmers? My guy is 6 years old, 
>> in the 97th percent for height at 50", will measure his PBH tonight. He 
>> currently rides a 20" Hotrocks. Getting him on a great-riding bike like the 
>> Clem at an early age would be wonderful. But realistically it could be 
>> another 4-5 years I suppose? Also curious if any of the Roscoes, which was 
>> originally concocted to designate a children's model, might be made in 
>> extra wee sizes.
>>
>> Any thoughts appreciated.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

[Eric Daume]

Probably it's not a big deal since you ride a mixte, but I would make darn
sure my boy would ride a "girl's bike" before I'd spend that kind of money
on a Clementine.

Eric
who had a Cheviot, so don't take that "girl's bike" thing the wrong way

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The PSA about the 45cm Clem got me thinking. I am tempted to buy it for my
> little guy, but a Clementine would make more sense, since the high bar
> version requires a minimum of 73cm PBH, while the low will accommodate a
> 67cm PBH. Then I noticed that Riv is selling a blemished black 45cm
> Clementine. The other cool thing is it would be an exact match to my black
> 52cm. (The CL bike is $200 less, though.)
>
> It would be a big stretch for me financially, but if I could put it into
> use within 2 years (and maybe lend it to a shorter friend meanwhile) it
> might make sense, especially since I have most if not all parts lying
> around.
>
> I know some folks have bought Clems for their kids. Just wondering what
> the youngest age/size is among the junior Clemmers? My guy is 6 years old,
> in the 97th percent for height at 50", will measure his PBH tonight. He
> currently rides a 20" Hotrocks. Getting him on a great-riding bike like the
> Clem at an early age would be wonderful. But realistically it could be
> another 4-5 years I suppose? Also curious if any of the Roscoes, which was
> originally concocted to designate a children's model, might be made in
> extra wee sizes.
>
> Any thoughts appreciated.
>
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