Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
Well, I just finished overhauling my King Grips. Not excited to have to do it when they're brand new, but it seems to have gotten rid of the clicking! I'll try a longer test ride in a few days, too busy right now and have to ride a different bike on Friday. They were surprisingly dry, almost no grease at all from the factory!! Unfortunately I did manage to crack one of the dust covers, but it went back in OK and seems to be secure. I'll have to order a new set next time I'm ordering stuff, don't want to pay shipping for such a small order. I also ordered and installed a set of Specialized BG pedal extenders, which really helped with the feeling of being off centered. My long, size 14, feet which point out have always preferred extra long pedal spindles, so I'm glad I finally broke down and bought those. Got another set for my MKS touring pedals too. Didn't seem to make pedal strike much worse, and hopefully I'll not be hitting the ground even more!! On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
Yep, surprisingly dry pretty much sums it up. On the good side, once lubed the pedals are great (both my GK and Touring pedals). The plastic covers are kind of pain. Aloha, Bob On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just finished overhauling my King Grips. Not excited to have to do it when they're brand new, but it seems to have gotten rid of the clicking! I'll try a longer test ride in a few days, too busy right now and have to ride a different bike on Friday. They were surprisingly dry, almost no grease at all from the factory!! Unfortunately I did manage to crack one of the dust covers, but it went back in OK and seems to be secure. I'll have to order a new set next time I'm ordering stuff, don't want to pay shipping for such a small order. I also ordered and installed a set of Specialized BG pedal extenders, which really helped with the feeling of being off centered. My long, size 14, feet which point out have always preferred extra long pedal spindles, so I'm glad I finally broke down and bought those. Got another set for my MKS touring pedals too. Didn't seem to make pedal strike much worse, and hopefully I'll not be hitting the ground even more!! On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
The hole is really small and I drilled it into on of the indentations in the dust cap. The first time I did this, I did not reseal the hole. The grease acts as its own seal. The second time, I placed some bees wax in the indentation, though I do not think it is really necessary. Jay On Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:54:14 AM UTC-4, Shifty wrote: That's great idea Jay but how do you seal up the hole after you're done? I used some old ski p-tex (sp?) to seal up the holes in mine but wonder if our hot summer is melting it away. On Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:22:25 AM UTC-5, Jay LePree wrote: Hi Rex: I had trouble removing the gray plastic dust cap on my pedals. I just drilled a tiny hole in the dust cap and use it as a port to squirt in grease with a grease gun. I squirt until I see clean grease coming out on the crank side. I do this about once a year or so. It works well. Jay, Demarest, NJ On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:01:38 PM UTC-4, Rex Kerr wrote: Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ALRFyWd26lQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
every bike i own and repacking saves the day. 10k miles on one pair, 8k on another, 5k on the third. Did a round of rebuilds 2 years ago. getting ready to replace the 8k pair. they're on my touring bike and I thoroughly trash them and haven't had the time to rebuild of late so i've been solving clicking by squirting t9 through the seal while on the road. such is life. when i get frustrated i remember just how crappy the maintenance intervals were on my eggbeaters, what a difference. e On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Robert Barr rcba...@gmail.com wrote: I am surprised to read about the clicking. I conservatively have 3000 miles on one pair of GKs, and somewhere under 1000 miles on a second pair. Never a click and they spin effortlessly. Most comfortable and functional pedals I have used. On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
Hi Rex: I had trouble removing the gray plastic dust cap on my pedals. I just drilled a tiny hole in the dust cap and use it as a port to squirt in grease with a grease gun. I squirt until I see clean grease coming out on the crank side. I do this about once a year or so. It works well. Jay, Demarest, NJ On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:01:38 PM UTC-4, Rex Kerr wrote: Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/j39DlY_5ct4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
That's great idea Jay but how do you seal up the hole after you're done? I used some old ski p-tex (sp?) to seal up the holes in mine but wonder if our hot summer is melting it away. On Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:22:25 AM UTC-5, Jay LePree wrote: Hi Rex: I had trouble removing the gray plastic dust cap on my pedals. I just drilled a tiny hole in the dust cap and use it as a port to squirt in grease with a grease gun. I squirt until I see clean grease coming out on the crank side. I do this about once a year or so. It works well. Jay, Demarest, NJ On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:01:38 PM UTC-4, Rex Kerr wrote: Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8FlNuKll4sIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
Interesting idea. While riding home listening to the clicking I was thinking about how convenient the needle injector ports on my Sppedplay Frog pedals were. If dust caps aren't too expensive, I might experiment with the idea and a small screw to re-seal them. On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Jay LePree jaymlep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rex: I had trouble removing the gray plastic dust cap on my pedals. I just drilled a tiny hole in the dust cap and use it as a port to squirt in grease with a grease gun. I squirt until I see clean grease coming out on the crank side. I do this about once a year or so. It works well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
The dust caps are inexpensive, $3.00 a set at Riv. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe91.htm The plastic ones are for the Grip Kings. Bob On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting idea. While riding home listening to the clicking I was thinking about how convenient the needle injector ports on my Sppedplay Frog pedals were. If dust caps aren't too expensive, I might experiment with the idea and a small screw to re-seal them. On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Jay LePree jaymlep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rex: I had trouble removing the gray plastic dust cap on my pedals. I just drilled a tiny hole in the dust cap and use it as a port to squirt in grease with a grease gun. I squirt until I see clean grease coming out on the crank side. I do this about once a year or so. It works well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
Yep, loose bearings. Repacking is really very simple. I do all my MKS pedals (GKs and Touring) before I even mount 'em these days. Here's a couple of links with varying degrees of helpfulness: http://fatboybiking.blogspot.com/2010/06/rebuilding-mks-grip-king-pedals.html http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/576932-MKS-pedals-are-noisy-click?p=9535678viewfull=1#post9535678 Aloha, Bob On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
I am surprised to read about the clicking. I conservatively have 3000 miles on one pair of GKs, and somewhere under 1000 miles on a second pair. Never a click and they spin effortlessly. Most comfortable and functional pedals I have used. On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Well documented clicking? On my ride home yesterday (after writing the original post in this thread) I started hearing a clicking. Wasn't sure if it was my seatpost/saddle interface (since I'd recently moved the saddle) or the pedal, but was fairly sure it was the pedal. Ugh... 20 miles to clicking. Are they loose bearings? How hard was it to remove the spindle? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I repacked mine after about 500 miles upon acquiring the well documented MKS clicking. On removal, sure enough there's a mere dab of factory lubrication so I drown the tiny little bearings in Rock 'n Roll Super Web grease. Now they spin like a pedal worth 5 times the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals
Ah, you've saved me the time of going through the archives to find you. :-) I'd like to be on your list. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grip Kings are great. I humbly remind the group that I have in the past sold a modification to Grip Kings to transform them into Grip King Supremes. I will be selling them again in the future. What I've made and sold is aluminum cages that sandwich in and enhance the platform width while sacrificing zero turning clearance. My retired father is picking away at redoing the tooling, which will put me in charge of production. I've got about ten names and email addresses for the folks that want to buy them when I have them again. $25 shipped is the price. Here's the youtube I did when I first prototyped these. You can make your own, DIY for under $5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo0YlOqqISs Here's some photos of our product version, that we have sold (to rave reviews) and will sell in the future http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629107195978/ To those that are still waiting, I have not forgotten. To those that want to be on the list, let me know. Bill On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:57:14 AM UTC-7, Rex Kerr wrote: I had some 5% back store credit burning a hole in my rivbike.comaccount, so I recently made a purchase. (Thanks guys!) Part of my order was a pair of King Grip pedals. Did my first ride with them today and thought I'd share my thoughts for those who are considering them. The ride was my normal 10 mile commute, unseasonably cool with a slight breeze. Rode in my size 14 Chaco sandals, with socks (fashion at its best!) due to the cooler temperatures. Last night I installed the pedals. They were surprisingly light. They look very bulky and heavy, but when I held them I was pleasantly surprised. Too lazy to find the grease, so I put a dab of wax based chain lube on the threads and figured the existing grease in the crank arms would be sufficient. The spindles have both hex flats for a 14 mm pedal wrench and recessed holes for an allen wrench. I used the flats since I already had the pedal wrench in hand from removing the MKS touring pedals. The MKS touring pedals were bothering me in that I was constantly suffering from pedal strike. I tried, seriously, to teach myself how close they were to the ground, but it seemed that even on the most subtle of turns they would touch the ground. The King Grip pedals, on the other hand, had amazing clearance. I pedaled through every turn, even some that I shouldn't have and couldn't get them to hit the ground. I tried standing with one foot low and swerving back and forth on the bike trail trying to get them to touch, and they didn't. They had GREAT clearance! (Grant responded to my previous complaints about the MKS pedals, indicating that the King Grips had the best clearance of the pedals they sell) On the MKS pedals I have been using powergrip straps. I didn't miss the attachment at all with the King Grip pedals as the platform held the shoe in place well. Overall they were good pedals. My concern, though, is that they felt too narrow. I felt like I had to keep my feet in just the right place to keep them centered over the pedal, and yet I was still pushing against the straps of my sandals as my foot wanted to migrate outwards. It may be because I tend to pedal somewhat toe out, and on my old Speedplay Frog pedals I always special ordered them with extra long spindles, but I think that I'd also prefer a longer spindle with the King Grip pedal so that I could feel like my foot was actually on the pedal. Maybe I should try them with a set of those knee saver spacer, but I don't have any available. I also quickly understood why some here have been adding an extra support along the outer edge and am somewhat tempted to go back through the archives and see who was selling those and try to modify these accordingly. Anyhow, hope that this quick review is helpful to anybody considering these pedals... -Rex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ERiozOtqMEYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
