Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Jeffrey, good to know. I'm 98/100 happy with 10 cogs in back, but it would be nice to have a 13 in front of the present small 14 cog, so I'll keep that in mind. On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:26 AM Jeffrey Arita wrote: > Patrick, > > We (wife and me) have been friction shifting for oh, maybe

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Patrick, We (wife and me) have been friction shifting for oh, maybe 10 years now. Mostly 9 speed because it works wonderfullywe just got rando-type bikes and went to the dark side (11 speed drivetrain). To be fair, both bikes came stock with 11 speed. We did appreciate the dual-control

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-08 Thread Lum Gim Fong
9+10 were autoshifty for me in friction. 7+8 are great! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-08 Thread Patrick Moore
GE: what shifters did you use for the 11? One day I'll try 11, but I know modern BES pull much less cable per unit of angular movement of lever than modern ones, eg the Silvers. I can sweep all 10 cogs with less than 90* of the SunTour lever, and the leftside lever moves about 30* to shift from

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-08 Thread G.E.
I had a bar-end, 11-speed, friction shifting set up for a time and it wasn't bad. I ended up not keeping the bike (not because of the shifting, but due to overlap with other bikes), but I'd do it again on a bike, if it made sense for the set up Though, I frankly think the 2x10 was just as

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-08 Thread Patrick Moore
Speaking of 'many-cogs," does anyone shift 11 in friction? 12? How do you find it? Patrick Moore, who finds shifting 10 with Bar Cons quite easy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-08 Thread Justin, Oakland
SunRace also has a 12 speed drivetrain gruppo. Cranks, Shifter, Chain, Derailleur and Cassette. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-08 Thread William Henderson
Grant’s not the only one! I’ve slowly drifted from 7 to 8 to 9 and now 10-seed cassettes. To be fair, I think the early N+1 speed systems really were a lot worse for practical riding. They always seem to start out less reliable, less inter-compatible and much more expensive. Then the

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-07 Thread Daniel D.
Bought a park chain whip today. Package states can be used for 12 speed... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-07 Thread William!
Agreed, 10 seems like the a great choice for 1x's right now. 11 and 12 speed are more expensive and possibly less reliable, and almost certainly are going to continue to be moving targets. 8 and 9 speed are simple and will be around forever, but the mechs are not really designed for wide-range

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-07 Thread Justin, Oakland
My 1x8 11-40 works well. I own a 12sp Sunrace cassette that I impulse bought and regret. I would sell it. 1x10 is a sweet spot I think in terms of gear spacing. 2x10 really allows a wealth of gears that may almost be too rich. It has me reconsidering 2x8. -J -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-07 Thread Philip Williamson
I saw that SRAM has 11sp bar end shifters. Kind of attracted to them, for my upcoming Fitz. Torn between black and red pseudo modern parts and timeless 9sp Silver/gray DuraAce and XTR. I’ve got some of each, and they’d both look great in the planned bike. On topic: yeah, I ain’t getting a

Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

2018-11-07 Thread Patrick Moore
LOL. And here I thought I was living dangerously on the cutting edge with my 10 speed cassette. But the person who reviewed the 13 setup is an idiot: *There’s been a lot of talk about single ring transmissions in road riding over the last few weeks. We’ve seen the launch of the new 3T Strada Due