Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-02-14 Thread Catherina Gioino
I think they'd be pretty comparable. I have 700C wheel set on a 52cm frame with the Tektro R559s as well, and there's plenty of head room between the tire and the fork and just enough between the brake pads. Good luck with the fenders! On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5 Dorothy

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-02-02 Thread Dorothy C
Cat, which wheel size Roadini do you have? I am running 650b 32mm Grand Bois Cypres with Velo Orange fenders. I just changed the rear brake to a Paul Racer, from Tektro R559, and I will be replacing the front brake with a Paul Racer also, when some spare parts arrive. I would like to be able

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-31 Thread ascpgh
Joe, While not a Roadini and not an answer to weight concerns, I had similar outcomes with tires on my Rambouillet. My Ram came with 700 x 33.3 tires and most of the next decade I rode it on 28s. I had a few experiments with other tire sizes and during some fenderless summers, up to 38s

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-30 Thread Joe Mullins
Karl, I'll share my odd experience with 38mm tires. The bike came from Neal with 35mm tires that are if I remember correctly, Soma's version of Pasela's. They rode great and I was happy with them. I had a chance to try Rene Hearse extra light Barlow Pass 38mm tires and they felt...not right. I

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-30 Thread Karl Wilcox
Jeff, How did the 38mm tires work out on the Roadini? I have the first generation/shipment Roadini (gray/silver color), and I did not think that the frame would allow 38c tires. Cheers, Karl On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 9:56 AM Jeff B wrote: > > I own a Roadini that I bought from the other Joe who

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-30 Thread Jeff B
I own a Roadini that I bought from the other Joe who replied in the thread. I wouldn't consider my Roadini heavy, for what it is. I've certainly built lighter bikes for customers including an S-Works Utralight Tarmac, which tipped the scale just under 13lbs. I ride a 54 Roadini at 5'11" but

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-30 Thread nlerner
On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 9:19:13 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote: > Neal, > > I’m the one you sold the Roadini to and I’m happy to report that I’m > loving it! I swapped the 80mm stem for a 60mm and it put me in a slightly > more upright position which causes no pain whatsoever. Every

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
I haven't analyzed "planing" as far as Jason has, but I will add this: some of the fastest (read: "feel fastest" measured by ease -- "feel" -- of turning over a given gear at given cadences in given conditions) bikes I've owned have been far from the lightest, and one of them, besides being heavy

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-29 Thread Joe Mullins
Neal, I’m the one you sold the Roadini to and I’m happy to report that I’m loving it! I swapped the 80mm stem for a 60mm and it put me in a slightly more upright position which causes no pain whatsoever. Every other drop bar bike I’ve owned just didn’t feel right after a few hours of riding.

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-29 Thread nlerner
I owned a Roadini for a relatively short time before selling it to someone on this list, I believe. I liked the aesthetics a lot, but did find it on the sluggish side and have other bikes that fit the “country bike” theme that I found myself riding instead. Previous to that, I owned a Romulus,

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-29 Thread Jason Fuller
The tubing spec needs to be matched well with the geometry to provide what Jan calls planing - the flex in the frame needs to match your power output and rhythm to give you a small but important "springboard" effect with each pedal stroke, in order to feel fast. It really has little to nothing

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread Karl Wilcox
The Roadini is a very nice looking bike, too. I hope this does not sound superficial, but I enjoy the head badge, the decals, and the painted cutouts on the seat lug more than if it were just 2 pounds lighter! Also, I rode a 'Redwood' (tall Romulus) frame back in the 2000's and really liked

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Well said, Karl. Add to that the probably (I've not ridden one) signature Rivendell handling of the Roadini* and the pros may well outweigh the cons. And of course, weighing the balance between pros and cons is largely a matter of individual taste. Patrick Moore, ruthlessly botton-trimming his

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread Karl Wilcox
It might be helpful when considering a Roadini to observe that frame stiffness or compliance are not the only things that matter. I find my Roadini stiffer than I prefer, but the Roadini offers other features that I just can't find in other production frames. For instance, the roadini fits me

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread peter stock
FWIW my Sam Hillborne also strikes me as heavy, more plowhorse than thoroughbred. I've never used the term "spritely" to describe its ride (as I often do with other bikes I own) I just weighed it, complete. 12.74kgs / 28lbs Not insanely heavy but up there. Peter Stock toronto. On 2022-01-28

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread Eric White
I'm intrigued by the idea of wider tires on the new Roadini but I currently ride a Soma San Marcos that I'm pretty happy with. I can squeeze 38s in it and the ride is pretty great for brevets and long leisurely rides. I do like the 44s I'm running on a touring bike but I just don't know that I

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread Johnny Alien
There are other factors that can make a bike seem sluggish other than the frame. Honestly I think a good lightweight wheelset makes a huge difference. And the tires themselves. Maybe the Gallop is different because of geometry but I find mine super zippy and my build is lightish. Probably

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread Brady Smith
This is a helpful thread. I was ready to jump on the next Roadini shipment, but this would be replacing a Jamis Aurora I no longer need, and that's already an old school touring bike with heavy-ish tubing and stable, boring ride quality. I have a bike's worth of parts parts that need a

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread Eric Daume
It is a great orange :) On Friday, January 28, 2022, Jingy wrote: > I bought the Roadini from Eric Daume after he was done with it. I like it, > but I don't love it(other than the orange color). I've ridden it with a > variety of 28-38mm wide tires. It handles fine, and the fit is >

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-28 Thread Jingy
I bought the Roadini from Eric Daume after he was done with it. I like it, but I don't love it(other than the orange color). I've ridden it with a variety of 28-38mm wide tires. It handles fine, and the fit is comfortable, it's just not a lively ride. I think it's overbuilt. If you are

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-27 Thread Mike Godwin
Regarding the Reynolds tubed bikes, my 1997 Lemond Zurich planed for me (Reynolds 853 61cm frame, me usually around 180 elbows). Max tire size is 700x30. And it was a real hoot riding as a 650b conversion. The 650b conversion seemed to amplify the plani-ness of the frame. Its too bad those

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-27 Thread Eric Daume
A couple of summers ago, I sold my Cross Check to buy a Roadini. I liked the high stack of the Roadini (61cm), but the CC had better brakes, more clearance, more flexibility, and rode better. The Roadini felt like an old school touring bike to me. Eric On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 2:44 PM Ezra

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-27 Thread Karl Wilcox
I ride a Roadini: I like the frame, but the tubing is not very 'lively' or 'compliant'. It is a stable frame (I have hit over 50 miles per hour on Sierra descents without a wobble), but I would be happier with the frame if it was less stiff. I ride the largest Roadini, and I have wondered if the

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-27 Thread Patrick Moore
For *road bikes,* not for, say, Clems or Platypuses*.* This was the subject of others' comments. And I forgot to add: My first gen Sam Hill, built much like the 42 mm Naches Pass Matthews for pavement-biased all-rounder use, and very nice in many ways, also felt (with Sam Brown Greens) -- not so

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-27 Thread Patrick Moore
I've owned 5 Rivendells, and I'm a fan, so perhaps no one will take this wrong. My first 2 road customs felt light and zippy. Road custom #3 seems to have been made from thicker-wall (and also OS) tubing, and during my ~15 years of ownership, I repeatedly "felt" as if it were more sluggish than

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-01-27 Thread Joe Mullins
Hey Ezra, I think my Roadini is around 25 lbs. But to me it doesn’t feel “sluggish”. The riding position with drops is more upright and comfortable than any other road bike I’ve ever ridden. I believe it’s meant to be more of an “all-road” bike than a zippy fast road bike…it’s definitely not