Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Ed Jones
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Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Ed Jones
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[RDA-L] Transition to Resource Description and Access (RDA) workshop

2011-03-28 Thread Annie Glerum
Please excuse duplicate postings Seats are still available for Robert Ellett's workshop in Panama City, Fla. The deadline for the $20 registration fee is April 22nd. On the day of the workshop, the fee is $25. Annie *Transition to Resource Description and Access (RDA): Getting Catalogers Ready f

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Kevin M. Randall
Mac Elrod said: > Kevin said: > > >The choice of elements to be included in an authority record are entirely up > >to the policy of the agency creating the record. > > Obviously standardization or consistency is no longer considered of value. RDA presents a standard for what the elements *are*.

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Diane I. Hillmann
I participated in a discussion last week where the issues of email privacy (in particular, but other personal info was implied) came up--the discussion was about author profiles, not that far from name authorities. I think this is an issue that we do need to think about--and the notion about

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Kevin said: >The choice of elements to be included in an authority record are entirely up >to the policy of the agency creating the record. Obviously standardization or consistency is no longer considered of value. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Specia

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Gene Fieg
One can get all kinds of stuff by searching Google. I once made a type of search that brought up the names of my father and mother (both dead) with their social security numbers. There are way too many clever people out there willing pick someone else's pocket if they can get to the infomation n

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Kevin M. Randall
Mike Tribby wrote: > Thomas provides an iteration of what RDA says about information that may be > used in an authority record, but I think Gene's point has more to do with > what we _should_ include in an authority record rather than what various > information RDA sanctions for possible use. Ther

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Mark Ehlert : Gene Fieg wrote: Authority records are for identification, between work and person in this case, and we should not add information that does not add to that identification.  It is not a miniature Who's who. An authority record with a miniature Who's who is a benefit in

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
Some additional information about the Address elements for Persons and Corporate Bodies-- the MARC authority field is 371. http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad371.html The "web address" (as in the example in RDA 9.12.1.3) is a bit confusing since 371$u is not for a homepage apparently: "In fiel

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Adam L. Schiff
This information is frequently available in the resource that is being cataloged. I don't think that any of us will be spending time researching this information just to add it to an authority record. For elements that are needed to distinguish between entities with the same name, we might ma

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Mark Ehlert
Gene Fieg wrote: > Authority records are for identification, between work and person in this > case, and we should not add information that does not add to that > identification.  It is not a miniature Who's who. An authority record with a miniature Who's who is a benefit in some circumstances (e

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Mike Tribby
>From Gene Fieg >Authority records are for identification, between work and person in >this case, and we should not add information that does not add to that >identification. It is not a miniature Who's who. >From Thomas Brenndorfer >Those elements are used if needed to distinguish between two pe

Re: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
>From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access >[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Gene Fieg >Sent: March 28, 2011 12:16 PM >To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA >Subject: [RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons >Just got through chapter 9 on Persons. >

[RDA-L] Authority records per RDA for persons

2011-03-28 Thread Gene Fieg
Just got through chapter 9 on Persons. Do we really intend to put that kind of information in the authority record, home address, e-maill adress, etc. in the record? Isn't that really invading a person's sense of privacy? And when we call up prospect persons to be in the NAF, what do we tell them