Re: [RDA-L] RDA, DBMS and RDF (fwd) (fwd)

2012-05-15 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Forwarded message Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:23:06 -0700 From: Matt Elrod To: "J. McRee Elrod" Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA, DBMS and RDF (fwd) > In your catalog, which displays the subject headings on a line with the > author and title > 1) will each of these subject headings appea

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
>From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access >[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On >Behalf Of Karen Coyle >Sent: May 15, 2012 4:29 PM >To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA >Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library c

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Karen Coyle
Thomas, they say "YMMV" but I looked at those pages and 1) don't see a problem with listing the books under the name of the author as listed on the book (if I'm look for Ernest Drake books I'm looking for Ernest Drake books, and I get books written under that name 2) I don't see where it says t

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
> -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle > Sent: May 15, 2012 2:57 PM > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs > >

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Karen Coyle
Thanks, Thomas. I took a quick look at the JSC document. (I have the FRBR book and will look through it. I didn't realize it was up on scribd.) The JSC doc has 3 use cases that I will add to my list. I suspect that every one of them can be resolved without resorting to the library catalog. For

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
This document on RDA core elements and FRBR user tasks covers a number of user scenarios: http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/5chair15.pdf In addition, there are several FRBR and FRAD user task scenarios discussed from the point of view of user behavior in this chapter from the book FRBR: A Guide for

[RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Karen Coyle
On 5/15/12 8:53 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I believe that inaction -- in ability to make significant changes in "the way our data is currently recorded and maintained" to accomodate contemporary needs -- will instead result in the end of the library cataloging/metadata tradition, and the en

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 5/15/2012 11:34 AM, James Weinheimer wrote: Although MARC needs to change, and has needed it for a very long time, I don't see how changing the format would improve the subject headings. I did not mean to say that changing from MARC to somethign else, by itself, would do anything at all to

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread James Weinheimer
On 15/05/2012 16:50, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > I certainly agree that the way our data is currently recorded and > maintained in MARC is not suitable for contemporary desired uses, as > I've suggested many times before on this list and others and tried to > explain why; it's got little to do with

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 5/14/2012 8:52 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: No, that is not what I meant. Of course you can retrieve records in a given order, and we do all the time. It's about using the headings in the MARC records to establish that order. So here's the question I put to Mac: Sure you can use the headings in t

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: May 14, 2012 8:53 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and

[RDA-L] Seminar "Five Years On"

2012-05-15 Thread Kuhagen, Judith
The fifth-year anniversary meeting of the 2007 London Meeting of the RDA, DCMI, IEEE/LOM, and Semantic Web communities was a seminar "Five Years On" held at the British Library in London on April 27, 2012. The April 27 meeting was preceded by two half-day working sessions of the Dublin Core M

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread James Weinheimer
On 15/05/2012 02:52, Karen Coyle wrote: > let's say you have a record with 3 subject headings: > > Working class -- France > Working class -- Dwellings -- France > Housing -- France > > In a card catalog, these would result in 3 separate cards and > therefore should you look all through the subjec