Re: [RDA-L] Most appropriate language (RDA 1.4)

2013-03-25 Thread Paul Davey
I'm not quite sure if I'm talking about exactly the same issue, but this is something that is worrying me: (Also, I do apologise to be mentioning a MARC subfield, which I don't think purists like, but it's useful shorthand; also not to give the RDA rule number, but I don't have access to the

[RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible

2013-03-25 Thread Joan Milligan
Dear RDA-Lers, On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority

Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible

2013-03-25 Thread Gary L Strawn
If your system can export and import a file of MARC records of interest, the program you find here may be of use. This is for all of the phase 2 changes, not just the Bible. http://files.library.northwestern.edu/public/RdaConversion Start with the documentation, whose name

Re: [RDA-L] Most appropriate language (RDA 1.4)

2013-03-25 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Am 25.03.2013 13:30, schrieb Paul Davey: ... I do apologise to be mentioning a MARC subfield, which I don't think purists like, but it's useful shorthand; also not to give the RDA rule number, but I don't have access to the Toolkit, but I'm sure readers will know what I mean) ... no access to

Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible

2013-03-25 Thread Adger Williams
How delightful. I find we have a little puddle also... All of the bib records that I have checked so far have a previous entry for Bible.|p Acts. that was properly flipped. I wonder if they weren't busied still when the time came to flip the headings that didn't get flipped. (We have good 130s

[RDA-L] Phase II records

2013-03-25 Thread Jerri Swinehart
Thank you for your responses! I guess I'm a little grumpy today, but ... Does anyone have any idea which algorithm or workflow was used to create the authority record loads we're getting? I truly do not understand why the authority records for the federal government cabinet departments are

Re: [RDA-L] Phase II records

2013-03-25 Thread Gary L Strawn
The conversion program was told to examine records in LC's copy of the LC/NACO Authority File in sequential order, from first to last. Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc. Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300 e-mail: mrsm...@northwestern.edu voice:

Re: [RDA-L] Most appropriate language (RDA 1.4)

2013-03-25 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Paul, RDA is actually quite clear on this matter. In this case (unlike the one I was talking about), it's not a complete element which is supplied, but only a part of it. The basic rule for this can also be found in 1.4 (Language and script): When adding data within an element listed above,

Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible

2013-03-25 Thread Gene Fieg
I just checked ours. The authority records for Bible have been loaded, but none of the entries were changed, either subject or title (130 and 730) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: How delightful. I find we have a little puddle also... All of the

Re: [RDA-L] Most appropriate language (RDA 1.4)

2013-03-25 Thread JSC Secretary
Note that RDA 0.11.2 has general information about language and script. Judy Kuhagen JSC Secretary On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote: Paul, RDA is actually quite clear on this matter. In this case (unlike the one I was talking

Re: [RDA-L] Most appropriate language (RDA 1.4)

2013-03-25 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Paul Davey asked: If I am creating a 245$c and I want to make use of the option that = allows abbreviation to and twelve others what is the appropriate way of expressing that? [and 12 others], i.e., the language of the catalogue, in contrast to the [by], [par] etc. we used to supply prior to

Re: [RDA-L] Most appropriate language (RDA 1.4)

2013-03-25 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
I'm aware of 0.11.2, but I'm not sure how it relates to the [and twelve others] question. True, under RDA an agency can choose its preferred language, and this doesn't have to be English. So, Paul's library could choose e.g. Finnish as the language of the catalog. But if I read RDA correctly,

[RDA-L] JSC public web site: recent postings

2013-03-25 Thread JSC Secretary
Two announcements have been posted on the JSC public web site: -- RDA Training Materials from JSC Constituencies (information from Australia, Canada, and the United States; information from Germany and the United Kingdom to be added later) -- New JSC members (Christine Frodl, Kevin Marsh, and