Re: [RDA-L] Coding Minimal level records as RDA?

2013-08-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Beth asked: Can a MARC record which does not contain =E2=80=9Call the core elements that are applicable and readily ascertainable=E2=80=9D (0.6.1) but in all other ways follows RDA guidelines be coded as an RDA record (008/18 i and 040 $e rda). Yes, it should be coded i (ISBD punctuationn is

Re: [RDA-L] Coding Minimal level records as RDA?

2013-08-14 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Beth, I cannot help with the MARC coding, but I can try and explain 0.6.1: My colleagues and I are confused by the two subpoints (a and b) outlined in 0.6.1 which refer to choosing to apply various levels of description and/or detail. Do those options only apply when including “other

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-14 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Gary, The rules which you need can be found in 1.9.2 (Supplied date). Under 1.9.2.4 (Probable range of years) there are examples like this: [between 1800 and 1899?] [between 1400 and 1600?] In 2.8.6.6, there is a reference to 1.9.2. Heidrun On 13.08.2013 21:19, Gary Oliver wrote: I have

Re: [RDA-L] I am puzzled...can you help with this children's picture book?

2013-08-14 Thread Deborah Fritz
In a collaboration such as this, it is important to know the actual layout of the title page. Could you scan and attach, or replicate it as closely as possible? Without seeing the layout and actual wording, I would say: - both Tony and Jill should be added as Creators (19.2.1.1)

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-14 Thread JSC Secretary
Gary, If supplying a date per 1.9.2 is not possible, then you can apply the 2nd paragraph of 2.8.6.6: If an approximate date of publication for a single-part resource cannot reasonably be determined, record *date of publication not identified*. Indicate that the information was taken from a

Re: [RDA-L] I am puzzled...can you help with this children's picture book?

2013-08-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Anne Laguna said: Greetings from sunny Townsville I have a picture book called 'Bombo the wonder dog' . I've little to add to Ms Fritz's analysis, except to emphasize that if pictures predominate over text, the main entry (to stick with known terminology) should be the artist, and if text, the

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Gary Oliver said: I am able to assume a century. We continue the AACR2 [18--] as opposed to [date of publication not identified]. We will never use that phrase (AACR2 wisely did not allow [nd]). We know it was not published in 2014, which the patron would not know in 2014; I know of no ILS

[RDA-L] Relationship designators in LC Records

2013-08-14 Thread Panchyshyn, Roman
Like many libraries, we have an approval plan set up through YBP where we get LC records through OCLC PromptCat for materials. With some of the new materials, we are getting full RDA records (all have $e rda in the 040), generated by LC, but there is no relationship designator ($e) in the 100

[RDA-L] Position Announcement: Head, Resource Description Metadata Services, George Mason University

2013-08-14 Thread Tricia Mackenzie
*Head, Resource Description and Metadata Services (FA391z)* *George Mason University Libraries* The George Mason University Libraries is seeking a creative and experienced librarian for the position of Head, Resource Description and Metadata Services. This department head position provides

Re: [RDA-L] 336 repeated for illustrations?

2013-08-14 Thread Karen Nelson
Luckily I have kept this string ... still on the subject, I'm looking at a monograph (on scrapbooking) that includes as much image content as text, and lots of them are actually patterns. So, two 336s (text and still image), but what does everyone do now re. patterns? Karen From: Resource

[RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

2013-08-14 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
I find it really difficult to understand what is meant by some of the terms for the various kinds of illustrations in 7.15 (in German cataloging, we only distinguish four kinds of illustrations). The German RDA translation isn't much help either. So, could anybody help with my questions? 1.

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators in LC Records

2013-08-14 Thread Arakawa, Steven
I believe so. LC practice (as distinguished from PCC practice) is to require RDs only for illustrators of children's books, although that doesn't mean LC catalogers cannot make individual decisions to add RDs in other categories. And I see the PCC guidelines more as best practice rather than

Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

2013-08-14 Thread Arakawa, Steven
I can't offer much help in situations 1.-3., but I do catalog a lot of brochures for one of our special collections devoted to color-- sales catalogs for paint and fabrics, where the paint chip and fabric samples need to be distinguished from the period illustrations that are also featured (at

Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

2013-08-14 Thread John Hostage
I'm just as mystified as you are. The RDA glossary gives 2 definitions of chart, but both are better suited for a stand-alone resource than for illustrative content. I don't know what the difference between charts and graphs is supposed to be. What Wikipedia calls chart-like diagrams are

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators in LC Records

2013-08-14 Thread Joan Wang
The following lists core elements for RDA and Library of Congress. Primary relationships - Only the predominant or first-named work manifested is required, if more than one work is embodied in the manifestation. - Only the predominant or first-named expression manifested is required,

Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

2013-08-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun asked: I find it really difficult to understand what is meant by some of the terms for the various kinds of illustrations ... I don't pretend to understand RDA's use of words, but this is how I'm asking SLC cataloguers to use them. 1. charts vs. graphs: Graphs usually compare

Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

2013-08-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
In answering Heidrun: I find it really difficult to understand what is meant by some of the terms for the various kinds of illustrations ... I neglected to mention samples. Steven got it right I think. While paint chips may be the most common, fabric swatches also happen (e.g., clan

Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

2013-08-14 Thread Adam L. Schiff
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:47:03 +0200 From: Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: