Re: [RDA-L] What we are telling our clients about RDA

2012-03-08 Thread Hal Cain
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:41:12 -0800, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote: Dear SLC Client,9 March 2012 Executive summary: SLC will switch to the new cataloguing rules Resource Description and

Re: [RDA-L] MARC records in a bilingual catalogue

2012-01-30 Thread Hal Cain
than one character.) Hal Cain Melbourne, Australia hegc...@gmail.com

Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates

2012-01-20 Thread Hal Cain
are probably few! Hal Cain Melbourne, Australia hegc...@gmail.com On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:14:28 -0500, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.edu wrote: Note that this is not peculiar to French. (Spanish, German, Russian, Italian,... all share this feature) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:51 PM, J. McRee

Re: [RDA-L] The bibliographic universe

2011-11-23 Thread Hal Cain
(by virtue of their being collected or sought) as significant. Significant provides for not choosing to collect and organize objects such as street signs which are a different kind of information-bearing entity. Hal Cain Melbourne, Australia hegc...@gmail.com

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Rules by Martha M. Yee

2011-11-11 Thread Hal Cain
been done, and her decisions and application may give the rest of us new light and justify different decisions. Hal Cain Melbourne, Australia hegc...@gmail.com

Re: [RDA-L] Offlist reactions to the LC Bibliographic Framework statement

2011-11-09 Thread Hal Cain
what's meant! Hal Cain Melb ourne, Australia hegc...@gmail.com On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:48:56 -0800, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote: Jonathan asked: Kind of off topic, but curious why you don't think relator codes are the right thing to do. Whatever Jim's objections, I can tell you why our

Re: [RDA-L] Offlist reactions to the LC Bibliographic Framework statement

2011-11-07 Thread Hal Cain
no universal bibliographic database that isn't MARC-based? And therefore one has to deal with MARC with its inconsistencies and idiosyncracies? I have no solution to that problem; the weight of our history is a considerable obstacle when it comes to trying to do something different. Hal Cain, who

Re: [RDA-L] Offlist reactions to the LC Bibliographic Framework statement

2011-11-07 Thread Hal Cain
history is a considerable obstacle when it comes to trying to do something different. Hal Cain, who acknowledges his knowledge is incomplete and liable to correction Melbourne, Australia hegc...@gmail.com

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

2010-03-15 Thread Hal Cain
Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Hal Cain wrote: But then I've been proceeding from headings in sequential lists to works and back again, as a means of exploring resources, for more years than I care to recite. Is the contemporary frame of reference really so different? I believe/suspect

Re: [RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

2010-03-10 Thread Hal Cain
the devil drives, maybe? Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia hec...@dml.vic.edu.au

Re: [RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

2010-03-09 Thread Hal Cain
to be from the AACR2 list (21.0D1) but that list does not suit specialized purposes even now. Hal Cain hec...@dml.vic.edu.au

Re: [RDA-L] (Online) qualifier for series

2009-07-21 Thread hal Cain
will depend on the display created, a matter which RDA chose not to address, but crucial to the outcome. Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia h...@dml.vic.edu.au

Re: [RDA-L] Testing RDA

2009-06-15 Thread Hal Cain
]). Is that project still alive? Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia h...@dml.vic.edu.au

Re: [RDA-L] Utility of FRBR/WEMI/RDA

2009-04-23 Thread Hal Cain
which the names are pulled from a connected resource file, matters in practice only to those whose business it is to play around under the hood! Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia h...@dml.vic.edu.au

Re: [RDA-L] FRBR, RDA ... and transcendental idealism

2008-12-22 Thread Hal Cain
of discussion swirls onward. Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia h...@dml.vic.edu.au Marjorie Bloss wrote: Or another possibility of a work is if I ask you Have you read Voltaire's /Candide/? My question doesn't really ask if you've read it in French, English, German

Re: [RDA-L] RDA comments

2008-12-04 Thread Hal Cain
aligned with these principles. Further, this is the point of having RDA aligned with FRAD (Functional Requirements for Authority Data), as it is with FRBR. Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Resources ... entities

2007-07-04 Thread Hal Cain
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Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-30 Thread Hal Cain
title, just as a subtitle usually does. Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-30 Thread Hal Cain
of records, while retaining records that are genuinely for different manifestations, is fatally undermined. Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using IMP, the Internet

Re: Alternate titles, an example of description broken into bits

2007-06-29 Thread Hal Cain
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RDA, Coyle, Hillmann, Calhoun, Tennant, and all that -- I've had enough.

2007-03-23 Thread Hal Cain
the outcomes will be better than I expect. Hal Cain, Senior Cataloguer, Dalton McCaughey Library (formerly Joint Theological Library) Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bibliographic control

2007-03-12 Thread Hal Cain
to make it clear that we're trying to record all significant documents so they can be found, identified and presented to users -- also as a cultural record of the products of the human mind. I don't see anyone else trying to do precisely that. Hal Cain Dalton McCaughey Library (formerly Joint

Re: Those long English RDA inclusions

2006-11-24 Thread Hal Cain
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Re: Draft of RDA part A, chapters 6-7

2006-07-22 Thread Hal Cain
bibliographic description should follow the initial caps style of citation practice; in cataloguing, we're working in text, whereas in writing and editing of text for publicatipon or presentation, citations have to be distinguished from other text. Hal Cain Joint Theological Library Parkville, Victoria

Re: FRBR and prime entry: what about relationships?

2006-07-14 Thread Hal Cain
absolutely irresistible that the corporate/jurisdiction name is properly part of the citation form of the name of the work. Simple authorship is not the whole story. Hal Cain Joint Theological Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked

Re: Author, author! Re: [RDA-L] Fictitious characters as authors

2006-03-24 Thread Hal Cain
in hand, and/or its content, particularly when not treated as subject. A shared vocabulary does wonders for discussion, clarification, and formulation of a code. Hal Cain Joint Theological Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Author, author!

2006-03-24 Thread Hal Cain
David Pimentel wrote: personality ... entity ... contributor ... perpetrator ... I know -- how about main entry?! Yebbut... added entries are to be included there too. It's Friday (here, at least); yes, I know. Hal Cain Joint Theological Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL

Author, author! Re: [RDA-L] Fictitious characters as authors

2006-03-23 Thread Hal Cain
, interaction with which is supposed to be facilitated by RDA) that too could be misleading. What a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive (or at least fictionalize)! I agree with Hal Cain that Part II is going to be interesting... I suspect we'll have a great deal to discuss! I'm

Re: Fictitious characters as authors

2006-03-11 Thread Hal Cain
of the theoretical discussion on this topic that I've read has been just making a simple concept complex. The resources and their content are complex enough: let's cut down on complexities generated by rules! Part II is going to be interesting! Hal Cain Joint Theological Library Parkville, Victoria

Re: latest/successive entry for serials

2006-02-16 Thread Hal Cain
(and implementation maybe in 2011?) is beginning to look a bit rushed, to me, at least if there's to be time for testing and revision. What we do *not* need is a spate of amendments after publication! Hal Cain Joint Theological Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2.9.3.2 copyright date, and production date

2006-01-17 Thread Hal Cain
enough to convince me that it does not convey the meaning I intend; likewise e.g. which isn't usually found in bibliographic records. Hal Cain Joint Theological Library Parkville, Victoria, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition