Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread James Weinheimer
On 15/05/2012 02:52, Karen Coyle wrote: snip let's say you have a record with 3 subject headings: Working class -- France Working class -- Dwellings -- France Housing -- France In a card catalog, these would result in 3 separate cards and therefore should you look all through the subject

[RDA-L] Seminar Five Years On

2012-05-15 Thread Kuhagen, Judith
The fifth-year anniversary meeting of the 2007 London Meeting of the RDA, DCMI, IEEE/LOM, and Semantic Web communities was a seminar Five Years On held at the British Library in London on April 27, 2012. The April 27 meeting was preceded by two half-day working sessions of the Dublin Core

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: May 14, 2012 8:53 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 5/14/2012 8:52 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: No, that is not what I meant. Of course you can retrieve records in a given order, and we do all the time. It's about using the headings in the MARC records to establish that order. So here's the question I put to Mac: Sure you can use the headings in

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread James Weinheimer
On 15/05/2012 16:50, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: snip I certainly agree that the way our data is currently recorded and maintained in MARC is not suitable for contemporary desired uses, as I've suggested many times before on this list and others and tried to explain why; it's got little to do

Re: [RDA-L] Part 2: Efficiency of DBMS operations Re: [RDA-L] [BIBFRAME] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 5/15/2012 11:34 AM, James Weinheimer wrote: Although MARC needs to change, and has needed it for a very long time, I don't see how changing the format would improve the subject headings. I did not mean to say that changing from MARC to somethign else, by itself, would do anything at all to

[RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Karen Coyle
On 5/15/12 8:53 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I believe that inaction -- in ability to make significant changes in the way our data is currently recorded and maintained to accomodate contemporary needs -- will instead result in the end of the library cataloging/metadata tradition, and the end

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
This document on RDA core elements and FRBR user tasks covers a number of user scenarios: http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/5chair15.pdf In addition, there are several FRBR and FRAD user task scenarios discussed from the point of view of user behavior in this chapter from the book FRBR: A Guide for

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Karen Coyle
Thanks, Thomas. I took a quick look at the JSC document. (I have the FRBR book and will look through it. I didn't realize it was up on scribd.) The JSC doc has 3 use cases that I will add to my list. I suspect that every one of them can be resolved without resorting to the library catalog. For

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
-Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: May 15, 2012 2:57 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Karen Coyle
Thomas, they say YMMV but I looked at those pages and 1) don't see a problem with listing the books under the name of the author as listed on the book (if I'm look for Ernest Drake books I'm looking for Ernest Drake books, and I get books written under that name 2) I don't see where it says

Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs

2012-05-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: May 15, 2012 4:29 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Library access without library catalogs