Re: [RDA-L] JSC, ISBD, and ISSN: harmonization discussions

2012-08-22 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
20.08.2012 21:59, J. McRee Elrod: Heidrun wisely said: The ISBD has been a common core of many cataloguing codes for decades. This common ground shouldn't be casually abandoned. VERY true. While not taking issue with the importance of ISBD as such, it can, I think, not be called a common

Re: [RDA-L] JSC, ISBD, and ISSN: harmonization discussions

2012-08-22 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Bernhard said: While not taking issue with the importance of ISBD as such, it can, I think, not be called a common core of cataloging codes in general, but of those of their parts relating to description. It is true that ISBD does not address access points. ISBD does provide for the

Re: [RDA-L] Quick question about RDA 2.4.1.8

2012-08-22 Thread Arakawa, Steven
I think that is the intention. It was brought up as an RDA change from AACR2 at an early ALA pre-conference I attended. AACR2 1.1F12: Treat a noun phrase occurring in conjunction with a statement of responsibility as other title information if it is indicative of the nature of the work. RDA

Re: [RDA-L] Quick question about RDA 2.4.1.8

2012-08-22 Thread Joan Wang
If a noun or noun phrase occurs with a statement of responsibility, treat the noun or noun phrase as part of the statement of responsibility. I would consider that such a noun or noun phrase should be something closely related to the statement of responsibility. That means that they can not be

[RDA-L] Quick question about RDA 2.4.1.8

2012-08-22 Thread Ian Fairclough
RDA-L readers, The second example might have the other title information and statement of responsibility data in more than one manner of presentation on a printed title page.   If, as Benjamin Abrahamse has already given, it is presented on two lines: Another Tome a novel by John Smith

Re: [RDA-L] Quick question about RDA 2.4.1.8

2012-08-22 Thread Hartsock, Ralph
The key phrase noted by Joan is they can not be separated semantically. I would use this rule when the title page reads: arranged for organ by ... Ralph Ralph Hartsock Senior Music Cataloger University of North Texas Libraries E-mail: ralph.harts...@unt.edumailto:ralph.harts...@unt.edu From:

Re: [RDA-L] JSC, ISBD, and ISSN: harmonization discussions

2012-08-22 Thread James Weinheimer
On 22/08/2012 08:56, Bernhard Eversberg wrote: snip 20.08.2012 21:59, J. McRee Elrod: Heidrun wisely said: The ISBD has been a common core of many cataloguing codes for decades. This common ground shouldn't be casually abandoned. VERY true. While not taking issue with the importance of

Re: [RDA-L] JSC, ISBD, and ISSN: harmonization discussions

2012-08-22 Thread Kevin M Randall
James Weinheimer wrote: Notes such as Description based on web page (Dec. 23, 2008) are 100% completely useless for everyone involved, including the catalogers, and serve only as salve for the cataloger at the time of making the record. The description should be based on the resource as it

[RDA-L] RDA questions

2012-08-22 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Autocaters: In preparing RDA procedures for our clients, we have questions we have not been able to answer. How many illustrations should an item contain to have 336 still image added to 336 text? At the moment we are assuming half, e.g., an exhibition catalogue. How much in the way of audio