[RDA-L] Sylvie LEMAIRE est absente

2013-02-04 Thread Sylvie LEMAIRE
Je serai absent(e) à partir du 04/02/2013 de retour le 11/02/2013. Je répondrai à votre message dès mon retour. Ce message électronique et les éventuels fichiers attachés sont transmis à

[RDA-L] AW: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread Frodl, Christine
I am happy to hear that you find RAK worthy to be translated for the English-speaking parts of the world. However, the Committee for Library Standards, a consortium of large academic libraries and regional networks of the Federal Republic and of one representative from each of the Austrian and

Re: [RDA-L] AW: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Am 04.02.2013 13:27, schrieb Frodl, Christine: ... However, the Committee for Library Standards, a consortium of large academic libraries and regional networks of the Federal Republic and of one representative from each of the Austrian and Swiss library systems, the German public libraries,

Re: [RDA-L] Extent terms (was Carrier type Flipchart)

2013-02-04 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Greta de Groat wrote: I began the RDA test with using the term in common usage in the 300, but found it was easier said than done. There was no guidance on whether to use DVD, or whether to use DVD video which is listed as an encoding format in 3.13.3.3. Nor was i sure whether to use DVD+R

Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type Flipchart

2013-02-04 Thread Paradis Daniel
Heidrun, You are right that 3.4.1.5 is actually an alternative to the basic rule of recording extent (3.4.1.3). LC put forward a proposal to correct this situation (http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-LC-17.pdf), which was accepted with revision at the last JSC meeting (November 2012). This kind

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread John Hostage
There was a collection of essays called RAK versus AACR : Projekte, Prognosen, Perspektiven : Beiträge zur aktuellen Regelwerksdiskussion, edited by Petra Hauke in 2002, to which Heidrun also contributed. Of course, it was in German. The table of contents is here:

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread D. Brooking
I also understood Heidrun's proposed project in the same way that Ed did. As a reader and a cataloger, I would be very interested in not just a translation of RAK into English, but a larger consideration of (past) German cataloging practice interpreted for a non-German audience. I think it

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread Ed Jones
Actually, Andrew Osborn, with similar motivation, translated RAK's predecessor, the Prussian Instructions (2nd ed., 1908), into English back in 1938. http://lccn.loc.gov/38023141 There is also a practical aspect to all this: Records constructed according to RAK are a growing part of OCLC

[RDA-L] note order in RDA

2013-02-04 Thread Joan Wang
Hi, Is there a note order requirement in RDA? I searched RDA Toolkit and found Order of Elements in Appendix D.1 ISBD Presentation (LC PCC PS). There is an element listing order in note area. Does it indicate a note order? I looked at JSC examples of RDA records. They seem to show an order of

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread Myers, John F.
Count me in as one in the Anglo-American world very interested in the way [cataloging (not just authority control)] is done in Germany.I have been particularly fortunate to sit in on the MARBI meetings, where the DNB Representative Reinhold Heuvelmann has given some insights into the

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread Amanda Cossham
I have read articles that discuss REICAT (the Italian cataloguing code) and compare the principles in it with the principles of the FRBR model. Could anyone direct me to a similar comparison of the FRBR principles and RAK, or cataloguing generally in Germany? I know very little about German

Re: [RDA-L] Unit names (aka SMD)

2013-02-04 Thread Gene Fieg
Mac, I think it was you that made the suggestion to qualify the GMD with the SMD. For instance |h [videorecording : video cassette] I always thought that was a neat suggestion. On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:10 AM, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote: I said: Certainly SLC will use exact unit

Re: [RDA-L] GMD/Unit names (aka SMD)

2013-02-04 Thread J. McRee Elrod
For instance |h [videorecording : video cassette] Prior to RDA, I suggested following the AACR2 pattern of [text (large print)] with, for example, [videorecording (VHS)], [videorecording (DVD)], if one wished a more exact GMD, as opposed to either substituting the SMD, or making something up

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
04.02.2013 18:42, Charles Croissant: One caveat: I learned after publication via a German review that the example I gave of a Stuecktitelaufnahme was flawed. If I recollect correctly, the problem was that in the situation I described, the presence of a common title would have led under RAK to

Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules RAK

2013-02-04 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Amanda, unlike REICAT, RAK is pre-FRBR. It is, as it were, of the same generation as AACR2. Still, there are some interesting differences between RAK and AACR2. In the mid-1990s, there was a project to develop a modernized version of RAK under the working title RAK2. Among other things, the