Re: [RDA-L] About the coming transfer of RDA-L

2013-12-19 Thread Cynthia Warren
Thanks Di

From: Diane Hillmann [mailto:d...@cornell.edu]
Sent: 18 December 2013 07:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] About the coming transfer of RDA-L

Jamie:
Just a clarification on one statement in your message:

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:14 PM, James Hennelly 
jhenne...@ala.orgmailto:jhenne...@ala.org wrote:

* Beginning on Dec. 27th, replies to discussion threads that started on 
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There are at least two ways to parse this one. Is it:
1. Replies to threads that originated from the old address 'should be 
redirected' [manually by the reply-er] to the new address [meaning that we have 
to pay attention to avoid having messages rejected]
2. Replies to threads that originated from the old address 'should be 
redirected' [automatically by the system] to the new address [meaning we can 
stop worrying and just let those replies fly]
Diane
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Re: [RDA-L] Some more examples of qualified conventional collective titles

2013-12-19 Thread Tarango, Adolfo
Hi Adam,

I believe you have mischaracterized the opinions expressed on PCC list. I 
believe many have expressed a disagreement with LC practice and are not 
following it. For example, at UCSD not only are we not following LC practice 
for the master record, we are actively removing the CCTs for our local records.

Adolfo

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Some more examples of qualified conventional collective 
titles

I've asked just this question on the PCC list, since the policy statement that 
covers this is labeled LC practice.  So far I've only heard back from a few 
libraries, but they are following LC practice.  Which makes sense when you 
consider that much of the copy for cataloging that we get comes from LC, and we 
don't have the staffing to redo what they do. 
Therefore we will be getting and accepting many records that have these 
conventional collective titles, and any original cataloging records that we 
might create according to a different local practice would be just a drop in 
the bucket of all the records in our catalog.

Adam


On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Heidrun Wiesenm?ller wrote:

 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:08:42 +0100
 From: Heidrun Wiesenm?ller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de
 Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
 RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
 Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Some more examples of qualified conventional collective
 titles
 
 Adam,

 These examples all seem to follow LC's interpretation of the first 
 sentence of RDA 6.2.2.10, i.e. none of these collections was treated 
 as being known under its own title.

 So, is it correct to assume that LC's rather extreme interpretation 
 (that a collection can only become known by its own title over the 
 course of time) is at present widely followed, although Kevin Randall 
 and others have raised objections?

 I've noticed that in the NACO training module 6 
 http://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/courses/naco-RDA/Module%206-Describing%
 20Works%20and%20Expressions.pptx there is no detailed explanation of 
 how the first sentence of RDA 6.2.2.10 is to be understood (slide 38). 
 So I'm not sure whether all PCC libraries follow LC's practice here.

 Heidrun



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 Rupert, $c of Deutz, $d approximately 1075-1129. $t Works. $k 
 Selections (Opera apologetica)
 
 Talmage, James E. $q (James Edward), $d 1862-1933. $t Works. $k 
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Re: [RDA-L] Identifying a person of religious vocation

2013-12-19 Thread Liba Levicek
Does the cookbook mention what order does you Siostra Maria belong to?   Or 
name of place where she lives, works etc.  That could help a bit.
After reading the article I agree that she may not be  the same person as 
Siostra Maria Goretti Nowak.  Even though the two pictures look somewhat 
similar.
If you have any text in Polish I could help as I can read it fairly well.
Liba




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[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Stewart, Richard 
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Identifying a person of religious vocation

Thank you all for a very enlightening discussion of all the permutations of 
this problem.  I will incorporate your suggestions into what I hope will be a 
useful and accurate authority record.

Richard, I had high hopes for Siostra Maria Goretti Nowak!  Ultimately I don't 
feel justified in treating her as the same person--primarily because baking is 
nowhere mentioned in her activities in the article you kindly found, whereas 
my Siostra Maria has published several cookbooks and won a Baker of the Year 
award a few years ago (whether regional or national, my Polish doesn't reach 
far enough to tell me).

Rich


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Moore, Richard 
richard.mo...@bl.ukmailto:richard.mo...@bl.uk wrote:
Is it possible that she might be Siostra Maria Goretti Nowak?

http://gazetacz.com.pl/artykul.php?idm=432id=9957

It’s hard to be certain, but this might be the same person as in this picture:

http://martel-ksiazki.pl/image/cache/Ciasta_i_ciasteczka-500x500.jpg


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