Hi Adam,

I believe you have mischaracterized the opinions expressed on PCC list. I 
believe many have expressed a disagreement with LC practice and are not 
following it. For example, at UCSD not only are we not following LC practice 
for the master record, we are actively removing the CCTs for our local records.

Adolfo

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I've asked just this question on the PCC list, since the policy statement that 
covers this is labeled LC practice.  So far I've only heard back from a few 
libraries, but they are following LC practice.  Which makes sense when you 
consider that much of the copy for cataloging that we get comes from LC, and we 
don't have the staffing to redo what they do. 
Therefore we will be getting and accepting many records that have these 
conventional collective titles, and any original cataloging records that we 
might create according to a different local practice would be just a drop in 
the bucket of all the records in our catalog.

Adam


On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Heidrun Wiesenm?ller wrote:

> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:08:42 +0100
> From: Heidrun Wiesenm?ller <wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de>
> Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
>     <RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Some more examples of qualified conventional collective
>     titles
> 
> Adam,
>
> These examples all seem to follow LC's interpretation of the first 
> sentence of RDA 6.2.2.10, i.e. none of these collections was treated 
> as being known under its own title.
>
> So, is it correct to assume that LC's rather extreme interpretation 
> (that a collection can only become known by its own title over the 
> course of time) is at present widely followed, although Kevin Randall 
> and others have raised objections?
>
> I've noticed that in the NACO training module 6 
> http://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/courses/naco-RDA/Module%206-Describing%
> 20Works%20and%20Expressions.pptx there is no detailed explanation of 
> how the first sentence of RDA 6.2.2.10 is to be understood (slide 38). 
> So I'm not sure whether all PCC libraries follow LC's practice here.
>
> Heidrun
>
>
>
> Adam L. Schiff wrote:
>> Nicephorus, $c Blemmydes, $d 1197-1272. $t Works. $k Selections 
>> (Oeuvres
>> theologiques)
>> 
>> Rupert, $c of Deutz, $d approximately 1075-1129. $t Works. $k 
>> Selections (Opera apologetica)
>> 
>> Talmage, James E. $q (James Edward), $d 1862-1933. $t Works. $k 
>> Selections (Beginner's guide to Talmage)
>> 
>> William, $c of Auvergne, Bishop of Paris, $d 1180-1249. $t Works. $k 
>> Selections (Opera homiletica)
>> 
>> Council of Trent $d (1545-1563 : $c Trento, Italy). $t Works. $k 
>> Selections (Documentos ineditos tridentinos sobre la justificacion)
>> 
>> Smith, Joseph, $c Jr., $d 1805-1844. $t Works. $k Selections 
>> (Personal writings of Joseph Smith)
>> 
>> Smith, Joseph, $c Jr., $d 1805-1844. $t Works. $k Selections 
>> (Essential Joseph Smith)
>> 
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> 
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