Re: [RDA-L] Computer as media type redux

2011-11-15 Thread Bernhard Eversberg

Am 15.11.2011 00:32, schrieb J. McRee Elrod:

I'm told that Media type is a categorization reflecting the general
type of intermediation device required to view, play, run, etc., the
content of a resource.

But ...

microscopic [not microscope]
projected [not projector]
stereographic [not stereoscope]

etc.

Why the exception for electronic?

Not to mention that many use devices they do not think of as
computers to access electronic resources these days.


We wouldn't need to discuss these terms at all if the terms
themselves would not be used in MARC records but the codes.
LC did define codes for the terms but didn't use them in
the test records:
  http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/rdamedia.html
In actual applications, like OPAC displays, codes can easily
be replaced by terms, and these may be changed anytime and
anywhere. Only codes are language independent and do not
fall into obsolescence or political incorrectness in which
cases one would have to do millions of textual replacements.
A modern design can and must avoid this sort of flaw.

B.Eversberg


Re: [RDA-L] Computer as media type redux

2011-11-15 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Bernhard said:

In actual applications, like OPAC displays, codes can easily
be replaced by terms, and these may be changed anytime and
anywhere.
 
This would a great advantage for media terms in libraries whose
language of the catalogue is not English, or not one language only
(as in Quebec and Switzerland).

It is more work for cataloguers, since (for me at least) language
terms become second nature, but codes must be looked up.

To preserve transfer of library use skills however, display, whether
terminology or icons, should be standardized within each cultural
group.  That is the difficulty with the leave it up to the library
response, as well as the lack opt IT expertise in smaller libraries.


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Re: [RDA-L] Computer as media type redux

2011-11-15 Thread Kevin M Randall
Mac Elrod wrote:

 Bernhard said:
 
 In actual applications, like OPAC displays, codes can easily
 be replaced by terms, and these may be changed anytime and
 anywhere.
 
 This would a great advantage for media terms in libraries whose
 language of the catalogue is not English, or not one language only
 (as in Quebec and Switzerland).
 
 It is more work for cataloguers, since (for me at least) language
 terms become second nature, but codes must be looked up.

Wow, wouldn't it be nice to have a system that, when the cataloger started to 
type out unmediated in a 337 field, very quickly showed the cataloger a 
phrase such as unmediated = n, which the cataloger would then select, causing 
the string $bn$2rdamedia to be input automatically into the 377 field.  But I 
guess I really shouldn't be dreaming that we have any chance of incorporating 
late 20th century computer technology into our early 21st century cataloging 
interfaces.  What in the world am I thinking?!?

Kevin M. Randall
Principal Serials Cataloger
Bibliographic Services Dept.
Northwestern University Library
1970 Campus Drive
Evanston, IL  60208-2300
email: k...@northwestern.edu
phone: (847) 491-2939
fax:   (847) 491-4345


Re: [RDA-L] Computer as media type redux

2011-11-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
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 Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Computer as media type redux

 Mac Elrod wrote:

  Bernhard said:
 
  In actual applications, like OPAC displays, codes can easily
  be replaced by terms, and these may be changed anytime and
  anywhere.
 
  This would a great advantage for media terms in libraries whose
  language of the catalogue is not English, or not one language only
  (as in Quebec and Switzerland).
 
  It is more work for cataloguers, since (for me at least) language
  terms become second nature, but codes must be looked up.

 Wow, wouldn't it be nice to have a system that, when the cataloger started to
 type out unmediated in a 337 field, very quickly showed the cataloger a
 phrase such as unmediated = n, which the cataloger would then select,
 causing the string $bn$2rdamedia to be input automatically into the 377
 field.  But I guess I really shouldn't be dreaming that we have any chance of
 incorporating late 20th century computer technology into our early 21st
 century cataloging interfaces.  What in the world am I thinking?!?



We've been using auto-suggest for searching for about two weeks now after our 
recent system upgrade, which introduced the feature. Although not available for 
editing at this point, I've already found the feature to be a productivity 
boost in other tasks when cataloging.

Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library


Re: [RDA-L] Computer as media type redux

2011-11-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
I'm told that Media type is a categorization reflecting the general
type of intermediation device required to view, play, run, etc., the
content of a resource.

But ...

microscopic [not microscope]
projected [not projector]
stereographic [not stereoscope]

etc.

Why the exception for electronic?

Not to mention that many use devices they do not think of as
computers to access electronic resources these days.


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